Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Conversion Story of Patty Patrick Bonds [Protestant TULIPers Converts to Catholicism]
The Conversion Story of Patty Patrick Bonds ^ | 26 August 2006 | Patty Patrick Bonds

Posted on 08/26/2006 7:06:49 AM PDT by Teófilo

I was born and raised a Baptist. As a Baptist I enjoyed a close, intimate walk with God. I read His Word and I obeyed Him and He was everything to me. I was willing to follow Him anywhere and serve Him in any capacity. I never dreamed He would lead me far from my upbringing and to a place I would have never chosen to go.

I believed that any Catholic who had genuine faith in Christ and respected the Bible as the Word of God would follow Christ out of the Catholic Church. I honestly believed there were only a few misled Christians in the Catholic Church.

One day I came across the writings of St. Patrick of Ireland. I was looking for historical evidence of his existence, but never dreamed I would discover God’s will for my life. What I found in the writings of St. Patrick was evidence of deep devotion to Christ and a spiritual intimacy with Christ that I knew right away was true Christianity. He was my brother. Yet he was also a Catholic Bishop. This birthed in me a desire to understand Church history and when and where the Catholic Church had gone wrong (since my assumption from childhood was that the Catholic Church was apostate).

(See the Catholic Encyclopedia article on St. Patrick of Ireland )

For the next several months I read the writings of those men who had learned the Christian faith from the very mouth of Christ and the Apostles. I began to familiarize myself with the culture and time of the Apostles and realized that Christianity in its earliest days was not Bible centered (indeed most of the NT was not written yet and later was not available for the masses) but Tradition centered. I learned that when the early Christians went to Church their services were not sermon centered but centered around the Eucharist, the Lord’s Supper, which was not seen as a symbol but as the actual Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ. It was guarded and protected as such. Not a crumb was to be lost nor a drop spilt. I was shocked to find that the early Church did not even resemble my own Baptist church.

This led to many more months of earnest study of the Catholic faith. What I discovered is that everything I had been taught about the Catholic Church as a Baptist had been erroneous. Every objection that I had been engrained with since childhood was a falsehood about the Catholic Church and was easily refuted by an honest look at Church history.

By coming to an understanding of the time and culture and beliefs of the Early Church, my Bible began to read very differently. I realized that no document, even the inspired Word of God, can interpret itself. No one comes to Scripture without a grid through which they interpret it. My grid had always been very Protestant and very anti-sacramental. But after investigating the Early Church, I could clearly see that the Bible was a Catholic book; written by Catholics, for Catholics, canonized by the Bishops of the Catholic Church and preserved for Catholics for millennia to come.

I also discovered that I was one of many Christians devoted to Christ and willing to follow Him anywhere even at great personal loss that were reversing the mistakes of the Reformation and flocking back home to the One Church Christ established on this earth. I discovered through a series of books called, Surprised by Truth, that I was one of many that were headed home to Rome. (My story has been included in the third edition if you would like to learn more).

May God grant you the openness to see Him in His Holy Roman Catholic Church.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-55 next last
To: VidMihi

**Are we surprised that many divorced Catholics go to other churches where they feel welcome and are invited to fully participate?**

There is no reason that a divorced person cannot attend his or her Catholic Church and receive the sacraments -- UNLESS -- they have remarried. And they can fix that too, by talking with the priest and going through the annulment process.


21 posted on 08/26/2006 12:32:33 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: VidMihi
If you are really spiritually hungry - forget it - no food for you!

This comment clearly show the difference between protestant worship and Catholic worship. For the Protestant the summit of worship is prayer. For the Catholic the summit of worship is the Eucharist.

I reprint the following from Askfather.net.

The Most Blessed Eucharist must always be treated with all the adoration and creature-like submission which is rendered to God. If non-Catholics do not believe that the Eucharist is God Himself, let them sneer, or deride, or cast smug aspersions upon us for our "foolish beliefs." But let them do so sitting down, in the pew, at Communion time.

There are not found wanting many a foolish Catholic who for the sake of "niceness" might wish to water down the rule of closed Communion. "But what if they feel pain?" "My neighbor loves Communion time in her church and she felt we shunned her." "What's the big deal, as long as someone loves Jesus?" "I think we have so many rules, and rules exclude and divide."

The response is: "and your point is?"

To be quite frank and blunt about it, separation from the one, Catholic Church of Jesus Christ is a sinful condition (not saying the people are bad, but such separation is completely opposed to the mind of Christ). When people come face to face with a sinful condition, they are supposed to feel pain and hurt. But the pain and hurt are not inflicted by the big, bad, mean Church (facetiously meant). They are inflicted by the conscience, which knows that the division of Christianity is a sinful state of affairs.

This is the "tough love part" of Christianity we are dealing with. As Catholics and Christians of all denominations face the Communion issue, there has to be a realization that understanding and trust are based upon the truth. The truth is that the Catholic doctrine and understanding of the Most Holy Eucharist are irreconcilably different than most non-Catholic beliefs. For us, Communion is not just union with Jesus. Communion also makes a powerful, public testimonial about our relationship to the Catholic Church. Communion is the outward sign that one has joined the Church, firmly confesses the Catholic Faith, and is prepared to act in accord with this Faith and submit their behavior before the judgement of the Church for moral formation (confession, penance, etc.).

All the hugging, kissing, and sweet comments that we make to each other at ecumenical gatherings cannot suppress this truth or make it go away. To do so is to live in fantasy and dysfunction. The practical, concrete result of this truth for a non-Catholic is, "oh, since I can't presently accept those conditions, I need to be honest about my non-compliance and remain seated while Communion is going on at the Catholic Mass."...

http://www.askfather.net/discus/messages/874458/2112.html

Laudetur Iesus Christus.... In aeturnum. Amen

22 posted on 08/26/2006 12:41:02 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: PanzerKardinal

**This comment clearly show the difference between protestant worship and Catholic worship. For the Protestant the summit of worship is prayer. For the Catholic the summit of worship is the Eucharist. **

Great post!

And so many former Catholics who attend Protestant Churches leave and wonder why they feel to empty and unfilled. The Eucharist is the reason!!

May they always know they may return to the Catholic Church. We welcome them back with arms open wide!


23 posted on 08/26/2006 12:49:34 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: VidMihi

These are all thought-provoking and astute observations deserving of further, charitable exploration. I am not going to tackle them right now, but progressively, in future posts. Thanks for sharing!

-Theo


24 posted on 08/26/2006 12:56:47 PM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Alex Murphy
Ping to watch the flames.

Flames are an occupational hazard. ;-)

-Theo

25 posted on 08/26/2006 12:59:46 PM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: jude24
Let's not pretend that the Catholic Counter-Reformation didn't play a role in exacerbating the situation.

I don't want so soud picky but, what was the Counter-Reformation? What does it mean "to play" and "exacerbate" and what "situation"?

These are serious context questions that I would like to clarify before agreeing in whole or in part, or disagreeing.

My point in replying to the post you're replying to was that Protestant sloganeering proves nothing; it just make the slogan-sayers feel happier and more secure.

-Theo

26 posted on 08/26/2006 1:04:03 PM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Teófilo
Catholic Parishes Flourish in Southern U.S.
Bible-belt Catholics
Number of Catholics Rises by 15 Million (Diocesan Priests Increase; Religious Decrease)
Spanish Catholicism still very robust (3 shrines and The Sagrada Familia)
Catholics outsource praying to India

Catholic Priests in India 'Outsourced' to Meet Clergy Shortage in West
Christian Coalition head (in Ala.) becomes Catholic
Church growth continues for Catholic and Pentecostals; six mainline denominations decline
Young people turn against their parents' 'church lite'
Pope calls US Church to repentance and renewal

A father for the 11th time - Widower becomes Catholic priest
Number of Adults Who Don't Attend Church Service Doubles
Huge Christian growth shocks China's leaders
Church Attendance Increased : Protestants have now clearly overtaken Catholics in church attendance
Catholics Trail Protestants in Church Attendance [Gallup]

Church Attendance Linked to Longer Life
Church Growth and Eveangelism
Dozens of Episcopalians Follow Leader into Catholic Church
Thousands prepare to join U.S. Catholic Church this Easter
Where Have All the People in the Pews Gone?

More Than 150,000 People to Join Catholic Church Holy Saturday
Spirituality on the rise on college campuses
Analysis: Rome up, Protestantism down?
Benedict's Logic: A Church Contracting & Expanding Simultaneously
CHRISTIANITY EXPLODING WORLDWIDE; 3RD WORLD SENDING MISSIONARIES [V ENCOURAGING DOC]
Christianity taking over the planet?

Local pews straining to hold increasing Catholic population
Catholic Church is losing sway in Europe (Opinion from Ireland)
Has the Catholic Church given up the Ghost?
Statistics Reveal Africa Is (Catholic) Church's New Hope
Chicago Ordains Largest Class of Priests in a Decade

Reviving a dream: Big hopes of little congregation growing for Orthodox church
Ancient rhythm: Converts to Orthodoxy growing in America
Catholic Church Prepares for Cold War With Evangelists
IS THE CHURCH LIKELY TO SHRINK--AND SHOULD IT?
Church Attendance in Germany Experiences Huge Growth after Pope Benedict Elected

Foreign priests want to fill a need- if Americans let them
A Church That Packs Them In, 16,000 at a Time
(Catholic) Church Growing Everywhere Except Eurpoe
Scranton former Anglicans to be received as a body into the Catholic Church
A Letter from a Former Episcopalian

Catholic Sanctuaries Expand as Available Priests Decrease (Catholic MegaChurches Alert!)

In Brazil, Signs of Reconversions - Bishop Says Evangelicals Are Returning to Church
Where Have All the Protestants Gone?
Thousands take final steps toward joining church
Spirituality May Be Hot in America, But 76 Million Adults Never Attend Church
Mongolia's Catholics: 300 and Growing (Christianity introduced in 1992)

Protestant Churches Disappearing; More Catholics Than Total of All 19 Prot. Denominations Listed
Megachurch Attendance in America
Hong Kong diocese to baptize 2,400 catechumens
Catholic, Mormon, and Pentecostal Churches Fastest Growing
This Year's Intake (the newest members of the Tiber Swim Team)

Thousands to Join Catholic Church Holy Saturday
This Catholic church is born again (Evangelical approach helps attendance soar)
400 local (Palm Beach) Catholic converts enter new faith
Baptism of adults increasing steadily in France
The number of young parishioners growing in the Russian Church
There Is a Catholic Oasis in Dubai. And Another Has Sprung Up in Venice

Six million African Muslims leave Islam per year
The numbers game: Stats give picture of Pope John Paul's pontificate
Study Sees Church Rebounding From Scandal
Another One Takes the Plunge [swims the Tiber]
A faith in flux (the Catholic Church)

Mapping religion in America
Good news from Iraq: retired Iraqi general says record number of Muslims turning to Christ
Presb. Church USA launches ambitious plan to lose only 5% of members
U.S. Catholic population up (nears 70 million), most other church data down
Once-great churches are falling apart

Churchmen on brink of exodus over women bishops
Inside Iran: A Rising Chorus [Young Iranians leave Islam for Christianity]
From pulpit to monastery (Presbyterian (female) pastor becomes Catholic)
The worst of times: Evangelicalism in critical condition
Six theologians cross the Tiber

The Conversion Story of Patty Patrick Bonds [Protestant TULIPers Converts to Catholicism]

27 posted on 08/26/2006 1:24:31 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Teófilo
the Counter-Reformation?

The Counter-Reformation was the Catholic response to the Protestant Reformation, including but not limited to the Council of Trent, the Inquisition, and the Index.

exacerbate

Make a bad situation worse.

what "situation"?

The conflict between Protestant and Catholic. The vitriol, the hatred, and the violence.

that Protestant sloganeering proves nothing; it just make the slogan-sayers feel happier and more secure.

The Protestants had no corner on sloganeering.

28 posted on 08/26/2006 1:32:41 PM PDT by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: jude24

Ok, got it. I agree with you. Next?


29 posted on 08/26/2006 1:35:32 PM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: GreyFriar

So, conversion is a two-way street. Some go one way and some go the other. That's freedom in religion, and I'm glad we have it. .


30 posted on 08/26/2006 2:34:58 PM PDT by zot (GWB -- the most slandered man of this decade)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: VidMihi; Salvation
Welcome to Free Republic!

You got off to a shaky start but have now settled into the rhythmn of the forum. There are two Catholic Ping Lists on FR. I sponsor the list of newsworthy and other articles and Salvation hosts the Daily Mass Readings. Please freepmail us if you would like to be added to either or both of our lists. That said,

Contrast with most Catholic parishes where there is no coffee (if any, sparsely attended), people rush away after Mass and the few activities are attended by a small percentage of the parish and are usually cancelled for the summer. What kind of a faith community is this?

Following VCII, the Latin Church expanded its 2 Sunday masses to at least one on Saturday and 2 or 3 on Sunday. You make a good point! It would be nice if refreshments were served after these Masses but that requires committed volunteers and donations. It also entails sign up sheets and someone to keep track of who is bringing what to feed how many at any given Mass. It's a worthy pursuit and I would strongly encourage you to approach your Parish Council with this proposal. They will no doubt ask you to volunteer to take on this task.

ALL of the Eastern Catholic Churches offer refreshments after their liturgies and these are well attended by the parishioners. In my parish, sign up sheets are kept on a table at the entrance to the church where everyone entering must pass. The community itself assumes the task of volunteering the refreshments, setting them up inside the church before liturgy and cleaning up afterwards. Then again, we only have 2 liturgies - one on Saturday and one on Sunday. Whenever visitors drop in, Father welcomes and invites them to share these refreshments and conversation with us, after liturgy. First we pray as a community, then we gather for conversation. The community is like an extended family.

Are we surprised that many divorced Catholics go to other churches where they feel welcome and are invited to fully participate?

I know a family where the wife is divorced and remarried without an annulment. They have a son. She continues to attend Mass at her RC parish but does not receive communion. She admits that she should apply for an annulment but has not. Where's the problem?

Catholics practice birth control, they do not believe it is a sin, their consciences are clear, they know and understand moral theology.

Do you believe it is a sin? Most catholics are poorly catechized. They would prefer to watch CSI than read the Catechism of the Catholic Church. My guess is that they do know it is a sin and intentionally avoid affirming that knowledge through reading church documents.

These catholics are dissenters, no different from the women in PA who went to great lengths to be 'ordained priests'. They disagree with church teachings, on their own principles.

... some of the self righteous, take it or leave it, Canon law misquoting people you have to live with can certainly drive you to the exit door, and not unexpectedly, they would be quick to say “good riddance”.

Sure ... there are those who probably consider themselves 'self righteous' but have you ever actually heard anyone make such a statement? On the contrary, even the most devout catholic, commits themself to prayer for the lost sheep. I believe they would be the first ones to say "welcome home" to those who have erred and recognized where they went wrong.

On the other hand, there are many converts coming into the Catholic Church because of its stance on birth control and marriage. Dr. Scott Hahn and his wife Beverly have written extensively on NFP and its awesome beauty. The door swings both ways. Those who seek a life in full communion with the message of Christ are always welcome into the Catholic Church. Those who dissent are always free to leave.

31 posted on 08/26/2006 3:04:21 PM PDT by NYer ("That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah." Hillel)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Teófilo; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Thanks, Teofilo, for reposting Patty Bond's conversion story. It was posted to the forum about 3 years ago and Patty signed up with FR, to post her own comments to the thread. Stories like hers, bear repeating.

BTW, Patti Bonds has since joined a religious order as a third order member. Pehaps someone can find a link and post the picture, along with this new chapter in her life.

32 posted on 08/26/2006 4:17:14 PM PDT by NYer ("That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah." Hillel)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: VidMihi

1) that's a legitamate problem that many parishes had. Perhaps if they were offered more sustance during homiles, then there would be more to discuss after Mass.

2) this too is a problem, but not so much with the younger generations of priests. They say what needs to be said. I belong to a Dominican Parish, so we have always had good preaching.

3) There is nothing wrong with Catholics practicing birth control. It is morally wrong for Catholics to practice artificial forms of birth control, most properly called contraception. So let's be accurate with our speech. There is a huge problem with lack of education when it comes to the Church's teachings concerning marriage. However, once again, the younger generation is much more open to the truth and is seeking it.


33 posted on 08/26/2006 4:51:01 PM PDT by mockingbyrd
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

Comment #34 Removed by Moderator

To: Teófilo
A good slogan can stop analysis for 50 years.

Well said.

I've got a few corrolaries of my own, to wit: hype =1/value (this is universal); the better looking the outside, the less valueable the inside (this is only a guideline). I'll think of more...

35 posted on 08/26/2006 5:03:23 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (hack for liberty.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: the invisib1e hand
Christ the King Catholic Church

Was that Christ The King In Jacksonville?

36 posted on 08/26/2006 5:35:38 PM PDT by pegleg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Salvation
The thing that brings me is this true food and true drink by which I live forever. I could care less about the donuts and coffee. If the lack of coffee and donuts is causing you to go church-shopping, you're clueless about the purpose of the Church.

-A8

37 posted on 08/26/2006 5:57:46 PM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: neocon

That's very sad about her brother. I have one of those as well.


38 posted on 08/26/2006 6:02:48 PM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: pegleg
Was that Christ The King In Jacksonville?

No, Tampa. And I have since moved. But that's the first place I took communion in my adult life.

39 posted on 08/26/2006 6:07:08 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (hack for liberty.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: VidMihi
I enjoyed your post. I enjoy thinkers, especially thinking Catholics.

I'd like to comment on some of your observations. For instance...

Wander if you will, to some of the faster growing alternative “religious” groups, Unity, for example, where after the services the people gather for coffee, discussion and community, and where many activities, including Bible study, etc. take place during the week, even during the summer months.

This is indeed the case. And, in my limited experience in Protestant denominations, it is borne of giving people what they want. In some cases, it appears that they've done some market surveys on the subject. I'm not knocking it. People is what is a lot of what religion is all about

Contrast with most Catholic parishes where there is no coffee (if any, sparsely attended), people rush away after Mass and the few activities are attended by a small percentage of the parish and are usually canceled for the summer. What kind of a faith community is this?

There are areas where we can improve. And, you've had the perception to see it. All I can do is to encourage you to make a difference personally.

If there is no coffee after mass, tell your pastor that you want to host a coffee and donuts some Sunday.

If the singing participation is poor, join the choir, etc.

All we can do is our own part. If you've made the observations you've made, perhaps it's because you are being called to make a difference.

Though I enjoy thinkers. It's the doers who make things happen.

40 posted on 08/26/2006 6:20:25 PM PDT by Barnacle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-55 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson