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Evangelical Scholar Troubled by Theological Ambiguity at Beck Rally (Many Christians Seem Confused)
Christian Post ^ | 09/02/2010 | Nathan Black

Posted on 09/02/2010 6:59:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In the days following Glenn Beck's highly publicized rally in Washington, D.C., conservative Christians have come out expressing their concern not over the increasingly popular broadcaster, but over the apparent confusion among Christ followers.

"There is something very strange going on here. I don't understand the disconnect on the part of Christians," said Dr. R. Albert Mohler, Jr., president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky.

Americans from across the country converged on the National Mall on Saturday for the "Restoring Honor" rally led by Fox News commentator Beck. Reports indicate that the event drew anywhere from 87,000 to 500,000 people. Beck, a Mormon, was joined by a diverse group of religious leaders – including evangelical Christians – as he called on America to turn back to God.

Mohler, one of the nation’s pre-eminent evangelical theologians, found that Beck's rally cries were resonating with many Christians.

"What concerned me about that event on the mall was not so much Glenn Beck and the politicians in the program; it was the picture of those religious leaders standing together," he said Tuesday on The Janet Mefferd Show.

During Saturday’s three-hour event, over 200 religious leaders stood behind Beck, linking arms at certain points. Dr. Richard Land, a well-known Southern Baptist, and Bishop Harry Jackson of Hope Christian Church in Maryland were among the conservative Christians standing there.

While Land does not agree with Beck's theology, he told National Public Radio that the event was about a deep concern of Americans that the country has taken "a fundamentally wrong turn and is headed in the wrong direction."

Jim Garlow, pastor of Skyline Wesleyan Church in San Diego, Calif., who was also at the event, said the rally was about extolling virtue and honoring God.

And the event was evangelical in tone, he said in a commentary on CNN.

"Despite the pre-rally discussions of Beck’s Mormonism, the rally’s litany of evangelical speakers gave it the Jesus-centeredness of a Billy Graham Crusade. All theological references were clearly evangelical and biblically based," Garlow wrote.

After observing the rally, Mohler came away with a different take and a big concern.

"The bottom line is ... we've been used and we've allowed ourselves to be used at times by politicians and others who co-opted God talk," he said Tuesday on The Janet Mefferd Show.

"We (conservative Christians in America) … have just assumed that because they were using our language, they were talking about the same Gospel or talking about the same understanding of God or talking about the same theological structure and that's just not true," he stressed.

Mohler doesn't disagree on uniting with others on common concerns and moral convictions.

But he underscored the need to "distinguish that from standing together in the faith."

"One of the healthiest things that can happen among conservative Christians is the ability to recognize, to discern the difference between civil religion and authentic Christianity," he explained.

The conservative theologian said he and many other believers agree with Beck on many of his political views. He also expressed appreciation for how Beck identifies "many really horrible and very dangerous liberal ideas."

But "[j]ust to debunk liberal ideas does not give you then the authority to be taken at your word ... to be speaking truth when then you talk about the Gospel," he cautioned.

"We just have to be mature Christians [and say] 'let's look at the Scripture. Let's look at what is being said here. We have a problem."

Continuing, Mohler outlined the fact that Mormons hold to a very different understanding of God than that of Christian theism.

"We're talking about very different deities here," he said. "And I think many Christians just have no idea as they were watching that event."

"How many American Christians who are watching that (rally) and resonating with the call for spiritual revival know that the man who is up there speaking, using words about Gospel and God and all the rest, believes that there was a male and a female deity, that the Godhead is a reproductive pair, that eventually we will be divine ourselves if indeed we follow the path of righteousness?" Mohler added.

Since January, Beck has been working on the themes of faith, hope and charity. He said his aim is to restore history, honor, and "our faith" in the country.

The popular commentator has discussed the Gospel of Jesus Christ repeatedly on his television program, even using evangelical language such as atonement through the shed blood of Christ.

But Mohler commented, "That's bizarre language for a Mormon to be using in this light and to have evangelical Christians affirm that he's talking about the same Gospel we are ... it's the same language but it's not the same Gospel."

What both Mohler and Mefferd believe is happening is spiritual rallying on vague terms.

"When we see some of the talk that has come out of the rally and some of the people associated with the rally, all about God, God, God, I just have really strongly felt that it needs to be a very precise definition when we bring God into the discussion on anything," radio host Mefferd stated.

Mohler described the scenario as having all the cards on the table but turned over so that the faces are not seen.

"You're having the language, but you're not having the definitions here," he noted.

"It really is not so much a concern politically, it's a concern theologically. If we are Christians, we have to understand the name of God is not just some kind of generic noun we can throw around."

While Mohler recognized that some Christians would be irritated listening to his take on Beck and the rally, the theologian hopes they'll be irritated enough to go and look at Scripture.

Amid the theological ambiguity and confusion, Mohler reminded Christians that a revival or spiritual renewal cannot happen without a heart that has known salvation through Jesus Christ.

"You can't have spiritual renewal where biblically speaking there's spiritual deadness," he said. "The reality is we can't biblically believe that they really know the one true and living God unless they know Him through Jesus Christ, our Lord."


TOPICS: Current Events; Ecumenism; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: beck; evangelical; glennbeck; inman; lds; mohler; mormon; rally; restoringhonorrally; theology
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To: r9etb

Have a nice day. Personal invectives such as yours are not worth more of a response than that. :)


121 posted on 09/02/2010 8:59:38 AM PDT by colorcountry ("The power of facts is much greater than the power of argument.")
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To: RnMomof7

The Name Of Christ and His Honor has been challenged by many. It was challenged by Jimmy Swaggart it was challenged by Jim and Tammy Faye Baker, it has been challenged by many who have espoused religion on and off television to get rich.

The Honor of His Name has always been above reproach no matter what Charlatan sought to get rich off it.

If Glenn Beck is using Christianity for his own purposes then he wil be punished fo it ithe next life if not in this one.

If his approach brings one person to someone’s House of Prayer because of a new found love of Christ or whatever God they wish to pray for then all is well. As long as that religion practice’s love of neighbor and peace in the world I have no problems with it.


122 posted on 09/02/2010 8:59:53 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: RnMomof7
but Beck made this about religion..there I draw the line

Exactly, with him as the lead 'minister'.

123 posted on 09/02/2010 9:00:14 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Did your Grandchild come home confused?


124 posted on 09/02/2010 9:02:11 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: fml

>>We pray with saints, not to them. Nice try at Catholic bashing, but fail<<

It is still using dead people to communicate and God strictly forbade that. It’s also giving them God’s omnipresence.


125 posted on 09/02/2010 9:02:11 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: r9etb

Exactly! bttt


126 posted on 09/02/2010 9:02:34 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (BP was founder of Cap & Trade Lobby and is linked to John Podesta, The Apollo Alliance and Obama)
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To: huldah1776

I don’t understand, but thanks.


127 posted on 09/02/2010 9:02:44 AM PDT by stuartcr (Nancy Pelosi-Super MILF.................................Moron I'd Like to Forget)
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To: Walts Ice Pick

Welcome noob...

Except beck was quoting mormon doctrine and fakey “history” from the book of mormon in his speeches on Saturday...


128 posted on 09/02/2010 9:02:56 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Venturer
"As long as that religion practice’s love of neighbor and peace in the world I have no problems with it."

That's not religion, it's philosophy. The Greeks called this philosophy Stoicism. Paul condemned it.

129 posted on 09/02/2010 9:03:22 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

OK, thanks


130 posted on 09/02/2010 9:04:00 AM PDT by stuartcr (Nancy Pelosi-Super MILF.................................Moron I'd Like to Forget)
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To: All

Sounds like those who are confused are just the attention seekers who wanted to turn it into a tent revial for religion.

The halls of congress have the brumidi fresco showing George Washington doing a masonic stone laying ceremony for the capitol building. do we condem that? g.washington?

It is about “faith” not about televagalist-send-in-your-money-to-be-saved religion.


131 posted on 09/02/2010 9:04:02 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: r9etb

bttt


132 posted on 09/02/2010 9:04:39 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (BP was founder of Cap & Trade Lobby and is linked to John Podesta, The Apollo Alliance and Obama)
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To: circlecity

>>That is definitly contrary to biblical Christianity. I would call it a doctrine of demons.<<

So you would say that this nation was founded on deomic principles?


133 posted on 09/02/2010 9:04:46 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: RnMomof7
When Stossel asked Beck why he decided to become a Mormon, Beck replied:

“I apologize, but guys will understand this. My wife is, like, hot, and she wouldn’t have sex with me until we got married. And she wouldn’t marry me unless we had a religion.”

Beck’s wife, Tania, confirmed it to Stossel: “He’s not joking.”

So far, “Who Is Glenn Beck” is providing more questions than answers. Why would you marry someone to have sex with them? Why would you become a Mormon to marry someone to have sex with them?

134 posted on 09/02/2010 9:04:46 AM PDT by svcw (Everyday the enemy tries to offer you an apple, when God has already given us an orchard.)
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To: circlecity

Call it anything you like, to my knowledge a love of neighbor and peace, as well as a belief in a diety, is the basis for most religions excepting Muslim which isnt a religion but a cult.


135 posted on 09/02/2010 9:06:36 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: CynicalBear
"So you would say that this nation was founded on deomic principles?"

The nation wasn't founded on that. But certainly the constitution allows one to believe in demonism if one wants to. And such a person will suffer the consequenses.

136 posted on 09/02/2010 9:07:00 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Gamecock

Been there done that ... now that mysticism is trying to weave itself into evangelical Protestantism with “meditation” and “spiritual direction “

The devil loves confusion and deception


137 posted on 09/02/2010 9:07:47 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Venturer
"Call it anything you like, to my knowledge a love of neighbor and peace, as well as a belief in a diety, is the basis for most religions excepting Muslim which isnt a religion but a cult."

It certainly isn't the basis for Christianity.

138 posted on 09/02/2010 9:08:45 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Coldwater Creek

whose true scripture?

Huckabee has earned the name huckster. I would not and have not voted for him.

He speaks the magic words and it wipes away all his political BS?


139 posted on 09/02/2010 9:09:44 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: circlecity

Christ didnt teach Peace and love of neighbor?

I beg to differ.


140 posted on 09/02/2010 9:10:48 AM PDT by Venturer
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