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Denver bishop: Girl scouts could make girls more open to pro-abortion agenda (issues warning)
Life Site News ^ | June 1, 2011 | PATRICK B. CRAINE

Posted on 06/03/2011 2:06:06 PM PDT by NYer

DENVER, Colorado, June 1, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A Denver Catholic bishop is warning parents that membership in the Girl Scouts could carry the danger of making their daughters more receptive to the pro-abortion agenda.

In a Wednesday column for the Denver Catholic Register, Denver Auxiliary Bishop James D. Conley observes that in the last year a growing number of parents and youth ministers have shared concerns with him over the Girl Scouts alignment with groups advocating abortion.

He urges parents to browse for themselves the websites of the World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts (WAGGGS) and Girl Scouts USA (GSUSA) to see the organization’s approach to “sexuality, ‘choice’, and reproductive issues,” saying this exercise “may be a sobering experience.”

The Girl Scouts have faced strong criticism especially in the last year after the Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute (C-FAM) revealed that they participated in a United Nations workshop distributing the Planned Parenthood sex education pamphlet “Happy, Healthy, and Hot.”

The pamphlet instructs young girls not to think of sex as “just about vaginal or anal intercourse.” “There is no right or wrong way to have sex. Just have fun, explore and be yourself!” it states.

Just last month, two teenage girls went public with their decision to leave the Girl Scouts after eight years because of the organization’s ties to Planned Parenthood.

In his column, Bishop Conley quotes a youth minister who warned that girls who have been influenced by Girl Scouts USA will be “more receptive” to the pro-abortion and pro-contraception agenda.

“It’s hard to imagine that a girl who remains involved with Girl Scouts into young adulthood won’t eventually learn of the connections her organization has with ‘pro-choice’, pro-contraception and ‘reproductive freedom’ groups,” the youth minister wrote.  “If she was introduced to GSUSA through her parents and her local parish, then that will inevitably create contradictions between her Catholic faith and her Scouting experience.”

The bishop notes that Scouting’s structures allow local troops to have a certain amount of autonomy, but nevertheless he says the activities and orientations of the international and national Scout bodies have “an important trickle-down effect.”  “This is exactly why ‘pro-choice’ organizations have worked to develop connections with the Scouting movement,” he writes.

“Parents, as the primary educators of their children, have every right to insist that their beliefs, especially their moral and religious beliefs, be respected—not undermined—by the organizations to which they entrust their children,” he says.  “Parents need to remain alert to the content of their daughters’ activities. And Catholics involved in the Girl Scouting movement should make it clear to leadership that Scouting is only a means to an end—the proper formation of young character.”

“It’s not an end in itself; and should Scouting ever fail in that proper formation, other groups can be found or formed to take its place,” he concludes.


Contact Information:

World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts
World Bureau, Olave Centre
12c Lyndhurst Road
London NW3 5PQ
Telephone: +44 (0)20 7794 1181
Fax: +44 (0)20 7431 3764
Email: wagggs@wagggsworld.org

Girl Scouts of the USA
420 Fifth Avenue
New York, New York 10018-2798
Phone: (800) 478-7248
E-mail: Use this form.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: abortion; bishop; bishopconley; catholic; colorado; conley; denver; girlscouts; homosexualagenda; lesbians; moralabsolutes; plannedparenthood; pp; prolife
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1 posted on 06/03/2011 2:06:12 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

This is what the sodomites want to do to the Boy Scouts.


2 posted on 06/03/2011 2:07:59 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: fwdude

The Girl Scouts were coopted by feminists and lesbians a long time ago. Unfortuantely, many parents have no idea that the organization is just another institution promoting a leftist worldview.


3 posted on 06/03/2011 2:12:50 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: fwdude

Look at where they are leading our society: Sex with children - without having children.

It is our duty to stop them.


4 posted on 06/03/2011 2:17:57 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Prayers for missing Marizela Perez. Prayers for her safe return.)
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To: NYer; achilles2000

Sadly, he’s right. Once upon a time, Catholics were not allowed to join the Boy or Girl Scouts and had their own alternatives and, eventually, special chapters.

One of the original reasons for this was that Scouting was very anti-Catholic (founded by what would now be considered Evangelical Protestants, during their late 19th-early 20th century “muscular Christianity” phase) and also that it was devoted to the secular religion.

Sadly, yesterday’s secular religion looks like total Christian orthodoxy compared to what they are pushing today. And the Evangelicals have abandoned it, too, so the only folks left (at any rate, those in charge) are complete secularists.

We need to revive the Scouting alternatives.


5 posted on 06/03/2011 2:19:34 PM PDT by livius
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To: NYer

25 years ago, I was a girl scout leader. This would never be discussed with my scouts.


6 posted on 06/03/2011 2:19:51 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: NYer

I refuse to buy Girl Scout cookies.............

In fact next yeear, I’ll tell them WHY!!!!


7 posted on 06/03/2011 2:20:03 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: NYer
It's sorrowful news but true: the Girl Scouts even reportedly have some kind of "responsible sexuality" merit badge, which is not about valuing a pure body and a pure heart, not about the sanctity of sex within marriage, but includes pro-contraceptive and anti-family slant ("be safe and responsible", i.e. know how to select the contraceptives that's right for you, "only you can decide when you're ready" i.e. not your parents, not even the laws concerning the age of consent! Faith and family, church teachings, parental values and marriage have no authority, "only you"!

Would they take such an equivocating attitude toward cigarettes? ("Don't smoke until you feel ready"?) Bulimia? ("It has dangers, but many young women have made this decision and here's how you can prqctice safer bulimia"?)

Parents of girls teach them to resist the Lady Gaga mentality, and now they have to teach them to resist the Girl Scouts?

It's insidious.

8 posted on 06/03/2011 2:20:51 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am...)
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To: livius

“We need to revive the Scouting alternatives.”

Navy Sea Cadets
Civil Air Patrol
Appleseeds (for marksmanship)
ummm . . . Fathers teaching their boys and girls . . .

My ten-year-old knows more about camping, knots, shooting and survival than my 17-year-old boyscout neighbor. I don’t mean offense, but “pass a test, get a badge and move on” isn’t teaching what the scouts used to teach. Badges get Eagle Scout and Eagle Scout helps get into some colleges and military academies.

The symbols of achievement have become the achievement. That is pointless.


9 posted on 06/03/2011 2:44:00 PM PDT by cizinec
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To: NYer

Kathryn Jean Lopez, over at NRO, wrote about this back in October 2000.

http://old.nationalreview.com/23oct00/lopez102300.shtml


10 posted on 06/03/2011 3:26:30 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It's sorrowful news but true: the Girl Scouts even reportedly have some kind of “responsible sexuality” merit badge


Well the good news is you can pack your sorrows back up. PUH LEEZE. I am am a Girl Scout leader and THERE IS NO SUCH BADGE.
The world association may have such language in an “AIDS” badge, which is a badge offered based on projects typically done by teen girls in African nation member GS. They are also have a badge on “ANEMIA”


The presence of GS at that UN conference was a serious misjudgment, and we let National GSUSA know that. The language quoted is coming from a UN pamphlet, NOT GSUSA material.


Our girls could go 12 years and never have anything to do with the WAGGGS or even GSUSA.


Pay attention, GS troops are local to the community, run by volunteers who are your neighbors, and reflect the values we leaders grew up with and try to pass along- such as choosing better role models than Lady GaGa and going camping instead of hanging out at the mall or on the computer

11 posted on 06/03/2011 3:44:20 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: fishtank

that’s right fish

get in the faces of those 8 yr olds who are trying to earn $.50 a box to pay for camping, and tell them you despise abortion loving lesbian GS

because National GS organzation has got entwined with the UN and sent girls to a UN conference 2 years ago, where inappopriate UN pamphlets were displayed

for which National GSUSA was blasted by its membership, and apologized


12 posted on 06/03/2011 3:50:08 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: NYer
""The good about Girl Scouting, and a caution" by Most Rev. James D. Conley

June 1, 2011 - For many Catholics, Scouting is one of the best memories of childhood—and for good reason.  It’s a time of fun, friendship and adventure. That was certainly my own Boy Scout experience.

Logo World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts (WAGGGS)At its best, Scouting forms the young person in a spirit of service. It creates a sense of duty to the wider community.  It also builds character and cultivates civic virtue.

So it’s no surprise that many Catholic parishes sponsor Boy and Girl Scout troops.  And they’ve done so, with great results, for decades. Plus, when it comes to the Girl Scouts, who can argue with the best cookies in the world?

Over the past year though, a growing number of Catholic parents and youth ministers have shared a concern with me.  And it deserves some discussion.

Their unease involves the Girl Scouts, and especially the World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts (WAGGGS).

Youth ministers are quick to note that Scouting’s structure allows for a lot of autonomy. Girls make up local troops.  Troops make up councils. And nationwide councils make up Girl Scouts USA (GSUSA). 

GSUSA and a few other large organizations make up WAGGGS. Each local council or troop determines what’s appropriate for its specific needs.  Each troop leader decides what members see. 

Nonetheless, what happens at the international and national levels of Scouting has an important trickle-down effect. This is exactly why “pro-choice” organizations have worked to develop connections with the Scouting movement. 

Parents would be wise to spend some serious time browsing the WAGGGS (www.wagggsworld.org) and GSUSA websites, following the links they find there, and examining for themselves how these organizations deal with sexuality, “choice” and reproductive issues. It may be a sobering experience.

As one youth minister recently wrote:

“It’s hard to imagine that a girl who remains involved with Girl Scouts into young adulthood won’t eventually learn of the connections her organization has with ‘pro-choice’, pro-contraception and ‘reproductive freedom’ groups. 

Having been influenced by GSUSA, she’ll be more receptive to this agenda.  And if she was introduced to GSUSA through her parents and her local parish, then that will inevitably create contradictions between her Catholic faith and her Scouting experience.”

The many good things offered by Girl Scouting in Colorado deserve praise from the Catholic community. Scouting and the Church have always had, and hopefully will continue to have for many years, a very positive relationship.

But parents, as the primary educators of their children, have every right to insist that their beliefs, especially their moral and religious beliefs, be respected—not undermined—by the organizations to which they entrust their children. 

Parents need to remain alert to the content of their daughters’ activities. And Catholics involved in the Girl Scouting movement should make it clear to leadership that Scouting is only a means to an end—the proper formation of young character.

It’s not an end in itself; and should Scouting ever fail in that proper formation, other groups can be found or formed to take its place.

** The Register editors welcome comments about Scouting in general and the Girl Scouts in particular; the experiences of parents with Scouting; and examples of Scouting at its best. Email editor@archden.org.

Most Rev. James D. Conley is auxiliary bishop of the Denver Archdiocese.""

13 posted on 06/03/2011 4:09:04 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: NYer
Gave up the Girl Scouts decades ago and now refuse to buy the cookies.

I have a friend who was related to Juliet Lowe and she said that even before Ms. Lowe died she was ashamed of what the scouts had become.

14 posted on 06/03/2011 4:23:22 PM PDT by Desdemona ( If trusting the men in the clergy was a requirement for Faith, there would be no one in the pews.)
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To: cizinec
The symbols of achievement have become the achievement. That is pointless.

Very well put.

15 posted on 06/03/2011 7:27:05 PM PDT by livius
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To: silverleaf
The Girl Scouts have been "partnered" with Planned Parenthood for YEARS. My girls were not allowed to join.

In 2004, a report from a pro-life group that monitors Planned Parenthood indicated more than one-quarter of GSA troops work with the pro-abortion group. Of the 315 Girl Scout councils in the U.S. at that time, 17 councils reported having a relationship with Planned Parenthood and its affiliates, and 49 reported they do not. The other 249 refused to disclose any relationship.

The Girl Scouts Promoting a pro-abortion agenda

They still sell cookies, but here are some new badges to earn: “domestic violence awareness, stress management, girl power and decisions for your life”3 (teen pregnancy, etc.). Let’s note a few examples of these changes:

In Pennsylvania, Junior Girl Scouts (age-12) can attend a workshop on puberty designed by Planned Parenthood to earn their “becoming a teen” badge.4

In Connecticut, Girl Scouts honored a Planned Parenthood official for promoting “healthy practices” in local troops.4

In Amarillo, TX, Girl Scouts have sponsored Planned Parenthood sex-ed seminars for 4th through 8th graders.4

The following quotes indicate the Girl Scouts are abandoning their original foundation on biblical principles consisting of definite moral rights and wrongs:

“You can rarely state that something is definitely right or wrong.” (See Exploring Spirituality—WAGGGS 2000)5

“There is no right way to live, look, talk, dress, eat, or act.” (See Brownie/Girl Scout Handbook—1993)6

In Amarillo, TX, Girl Scouts have sponsored Planned Parenthood sex-ed seminars for 4th through 8th graders.“Our movement is secular and founded on American democratic principles, one of which is freedom of religion.” (See What We Stand For—2003)7

Jim Sedlak of the organization Stop Planned Parenthood has stated that the Girl Scouts have said they would not take a position on abortion or birth control. That is the “official” position. However, many troops affiliate and work with Planned Parenthood, which is the largest provider of abortions in the United States. Further, their sex education programs are obviously aimed at young people and getting kids into sexual situations, which of course means more abortions for Planned Parenthood.

One of the initial controversies was quite revealing. A Girl Scout Council in Waco, Texas gave a “Woman of Distinction” award to the local chief of Planned Parenthood who runs an abortion chamber in Waco.8 The Waco, Texas area council then called for a boycott of the annual Girl Scout cookie sales and voted to end their partnership with Planned Parenthood of Central Texas. The Girl Scout officials denied that they supported Planned Parenthood.

However, the Girl Scouts Blue Bonnet Council had sponsored Planned Parenthood’s “Nobody’s Fool” teen and pre-teen educational events in the past. In 2003, Planned Parenthood announced in a “Nobody’s Fool” flyer that every child in 7th through 9th grade would go home with a free copy of the book, “It’s Perfectly Normal,” and 5th and 6th graders would be given a copy of “It’s So Amazing.”9 These books offered sympathetic treatment of abortion, masturbation and homosexuality. Pressure to stop this resulted in a firestorm of protests about the local Girl Scout and Planned Parenthood entanglement. As a result, a number of troops in the Waco and Houston areas disbanded or severed ties with National Girl Scouts. However, this remained relatively local and did not spread nationally at the time.

While the Girl Scouts claim neutrality on abortion, their website is clear. The World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts promoted their participation in a march advocating “sexual and reproductive [abortion] rights.” The participants demanded the following rights:10

All young people must have access to comprehensive sexuality education and sexual and reproductive [abortion] health services, including contraption and emergency contraception, in order to avoid unintended pregnancies.10

Accessible, affordable and safe abortions should be made part of the minimum packages of sexual and reproductive health services.10

16 posted on 06/03/2011 7:47:46 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("Hope and Change isn't a job." -Herman Cain)
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To: Politicalmom

This is a list of Silver Award projects approved this month by a Council, plus another leader’s report of her troop’s Silver Award, I saved this as my own troop (ages 13-14) plan their own Silver Projects

The Silver Award is the highest GS award that can be earned by girls—— age 13-14. It requires the girls earn 3-4 prereequisite awards, and must be s sustainable program developed by the girl(s) with a minimum of 40 hours of service time

I so look forward to watching the girls in my troop as they earn this award.

Approved Silver Award Projects (by girls age 12-14)

Kids Summer Cheer Camp
Science Fun! Experiements You Can Do at local library
Boating Course and Water Safety Awareness for township
Look! I Made It Myself for ages 5-12 at Phoenix camp and Bright Eyes
Academy Seating and Eating for Silver-Building benches for the BC Housing Group and Community Food Pantry
Scarves for Survivors for Mercer Bucks Hemotology and Oncology
Project Security Blanket for A Woman’s Place, BC Office of Assistance
Recipe Book using foods commonly given out at local food pantries for the BC Housing authority
Planting a garden and beautifying a local park by planting water plants around the ponds
ASPCA Redecoration by providing new sign-in stations, replacing bulletin boards.painting room, etc.
Summer Tennis Fitness Program at local high school
Design and run Junior Explorer Program at the BC Audubon Society
Creative wWriting for Kids at a community art center
Providing and teaching new arts and crafts for the Phoenix Village art Center
The art in You for children 7-11 at the local library
Summer Program Games For Fitness at a local elementary school

Search and Fins (letterbox and compass activity) at local historical site
Building a rain garden at Peace Valley Nature Center
Making and installing birdhouses at Joanne Furnace, a historical site.
Blankets for Bliss for The Children’s Hospital of Pila.
Field Hockey Clinic at a local church
Thinking of You Tote Bag Project for adult day care center
Clothing the Unfortunate—collected gently used clothes and setting up places at the YCWYCA and a local church for people to come in to get needing clothing
Beary Special Friends-making bears for the American Red Cross
Remodeling of Basement Youth Room in local church

A proud leader reports:

My troop has two groups working together toward their Silver Star. Both groups have chosen hunger in our community as their focus but have developed very
different projects.

The first group’s project is to install new shelving at a local food bank and then to completely fill the shelves. The girls have aligned with a church food bank and dedicated a lot of time to learning how a food bank operates, have attended Food Bank Board meetings, have participated in warehouse distribution, and conducted several food drives. They have successfully solicited donated shelving, and the last step will be to install the shelves and then fill them with all the donated foodstuffs.

The second group has created a project called ‘One Day Without Hunger’. They have had several different fundraising activities and food drives, created a
website, solicited volunteers, found a venue, planned a menu, and will prepare and serve a community dinner large enough so that no one in West Seattle goes
hungry... if only for one day.

In each group we have girls particpating under both the old and new guidelines, and the projects were developed with that in mind.

Cadette Troop -— from -—— improved Camp Pow Low as part of their Silver Award project. On Saturday, April 30, with the help of 18 adult volunteers, 7 girls from Troop—— built 12 picnic tables and 15 new benches for the camp
fire ring area. The girls learned how to measure, use a power drill and a ratchet.

This was Phase One of their Silver Award project. They also plan to install a new metal fire ring, develop a binder with activities for troops to do while atcamp, and add new curtains and a new bookcase with games, puzzles, books and
craft supplies to the lodge.

The girls will also be building several picnic tables for the local daycare center and running a summer program at the daycare as part of their Silver Award
project. (This was so they would each individually have a portion of a leadership project in order to all earn their Silver Awards together this year!)

Here are a few quotes from the girls:

“It felt good to know that people will be sitting on our tables and benches”
~Cera

“I felt very proud of myself making these picnic tables and benches and remaking
our camp” ~Elissa

“It feels amazing to know that we have the power to make a difference in our
community” ~Megan

“I had so much fun with all the Girl Scouts from our troop. I feel happy to know
we are helping our camp” ~Jessica

“It was a blast. I learned how to use power tools and how to build picnic
tables.” ~Cassie


17 posted on 06/03/2011 8:32:37 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; All

This is a complete list of the badges etc available for the coming year, for each age group, as the GS program is underging a big change for 2012

See for yourself and stop spreading rumors

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/sJ_pTVqptLLKkEXLS4ZFm8SW9R2l-M0xm1NxxLdQYT0i-BNV8vMyVJr-hm8tijqzFUhceCDZXELNawyq-Sh52mxV7nrFOkvFjQOx8luLs65QDfM/Journeys/program%20chart%205-31-11.pdf


18 posted on 06/03/2011 9:01:34 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: livius
Sadly, he’s right. Once upon a time, Catholics were not allowed to join the Boy or Girl Scouts and had their own alternatives and, eventually, special chapters.

How long ago? I attended catholic school beginning in the 50s and they were very supportive of the Boy and Girl Scouts. The diocese also ran CYO day camps during the summer.

19 posted on 06/04/2011 6:07:44 AM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

I would not allow my daughters to be in Girl Scouts — and that was a long time ago. Even then I could see they were drifting left.


20 posted on 06/04/2011 7:01:15 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Gosh, I miss Thin Mints. I won’t even eat them when a co-worker leaves a box out, because I refuse to reciprocate. Somewhere I’ve got a recipe for imitation, but I know they won’t be the same.


21 posted on 06/04/2011 11:08:22 AM PDT by nina0113
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22 posted on 06/04/2011 11:10:23 AM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: livius

One of my nephews is in Royal Rangers and his sister is in (I think it’s called) King’s Daughters. I don’t know if that’s just their church or if they’re part of a larger organization.


23 posted on 06/04/2011 11:11:20 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: cizinec
Navy Sea Cadets
Civil Air Patrol
Appleseeds (for marksmanship)

Young Marines! OORAH!!!

24 posted on 06/04/2011 11:15:46 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: silverleaf

I give the cookie-dealers a couple of bucks for the local troop, and tell the adult chaperone that I can’t buy the cookies because of my issues with national leadership.


25 posted on 06/04/2011 11:15:59 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: NYer

Why do we allow the continued existence of Planned Parenthood?

There are enough sane people in this country to make it go away, and I don’t mean by waiting for congress to act.


26 posted on 06/04/2011 5:34:59 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: fishtank

I told them why I refused to buy their cookies this year (and will do so every year).

The girls I kinda felt sorry for because I don’t think they really understood. The parents/leaders who stood by and heard what I said just glared at me.


27 posted on 06/04/2011 5:58:11 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Democratic Party - The party of genocide.)
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To: Salvation

Mine won’t be joining. My older girl is nearing teen years, and the twins are too young. This, on top of the leftward drift of scouting in this area. And since some of us are celiacs, we cannot buy the cookies anyway. So for us, it’s not an issue. But I do worry about it on others’ behalf.


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Good for the Bishop. He should also have mentioned that the GS leadership promotes homosexuality and early sexual activity, as well as abortion, and all manner of leftist ideology. No doubt some local chapters or groups may be okay, but the national leadership and the materials they send out are most definitely not okay, and I've heard so many accounts on FR over the years of terrible things happening in GS. Lesbians are allowed to be GS leaders. 'Nuff said.
29 posted on 06/04/2011 8:29:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: silverleaf
Silverleaf, you and your family have had highly positive experiences with the Girl Scouts, and to that extent they have legitimately earned your approval and loyalty.

You may have heard the saying, "When the classroom door is closed, the curriculum IS tehe teacher." The same adage could apply to the Girl Scout troop: "When the door is closed, the agenda IS the troop leader."

While local troops can be blameless and even highly valuable, the GSUSA leadership has a pattern of funneling objectionable content to young girls through local troops.

Consider the GSUSA Journeys program material, which is REQUIRED for girls to receive the highest GSUSA awards: The Bronze, Silver, and Gold Awards.(The page numbers are so you can reference the material on your own.)

BLISS page 25 and MEdia page 71 -girls are referred to a pro-abortion women's media website:

http://www.WomensMediaCenter.com >

This site also features live links to over 2 dozen pro-abortion websites, including Planned Parenthood, NARAL/Pro-Choice America, and The Abortion Access Project. http://womensmediacenter.com/index.php/about-wmc/partners.html>

AMUSE pages 50-51, material for 4th-5th grade Girl Scouts - GSUSA highlights the play, Simply Maria, which ridicules

Girltopia page 10 - Sheri S. Tepper's “The Gate to Women’s Country” is given as an a example of a utopia. Sheri Tepper has served as the Executive Director of Rocky Mountain Planned Parenthood for 25+ years. In “The Gate to Women’s Country,” Tepper touts a feminist utopia through a future-fantasy of a benign feminist leaders who remove negative traits from their society through forced sterilization.

AMUSE page 24 – GSUSA promotes the dance group Urban Bush Women. See the review including comments from the choreographer about the group's recent production of Zollar: Uncensored. "The choreographer said the presentation will be a collection of segments ... all of them exploring themes of eroticism and sensuality.“ http://www.niaonline.com/ggmsblog/?p=3187

MEdia page 25 – GSUSA refers girls to www.MediaMatters.org. In February 2011, Media Matters Action along with 26 other pro-choice organizations wrote a letter to Congress to defend Planned Parenthood. The letter states, “We are writing to inform you that our organizations stand united in opposition to any effort to defund Planned Parenthood.”

AGENT OF CHANGE page 27 - Girls are introduced to Marjane Satrapi, Iranian, pro-abortion and gay advocate..”

And then there’s the eye-poppin open campaigning for “sexual and reproductive rights” from the “young women from more than 20 countries” who attended their recent gathering:

http://www.wagggsworld.org/en/CSW54/Day6>

Might you object that that’s only the World Association (WAGGGS)? Every member of GSUSA is automatically a member of WAGGGS and supports them in name and financially. The $12 annual membership fee girls pay to GSUSA triggers a quota that is paid by GSUSA to WAGGGS.

Mission Sisterhood page 53 – GSUSA promotes WAGGGS and encourages girls to visit www.wagggs.org/en/world.

If I were local troop leader organizing all the wholesome and creative “girls’ leadership”” activities so valuable to our young women, I would dissasffiliate with the GS and reoraganize into some other group not compromised by “the thing that used to be Girl Scouts.”

30 posted on 06/05/2011 4:35:54 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am...)
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To: silverleaf
Typo: "Simply Maria" ridicules purity, marriage, and having babies.

I also wanted to add that the merit badge I referred to earlier is not called "Sexuality," it's called "Becoming a Teen." It's a Junior Badge, meant for girls around 5th grade. And the discussions can absolutely take any direction permitted by the leader. One (this was online) commented:

"I have had other "planned" days (always having parents sign permission slips)...BUT - as they have gotten older we have also had some pretty graphic unplanned discussions...I had talked to an expert at our council about sensitive issues and she felt that it was ok (and expected) that discussions with teenagers would turn that way and unless it was a planned event not to obsess over permission slips."

How terribly hard it is to raise daughters (or sons) with a strong moral core rooted in the goodness of marriage and sexual love. And heaven help me, I'm speaking from experience.

31 posted on 06/05/2011 4:59:29 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am...)
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To: silverleaf
Pay attention, GS troops are local to the community, run by volunteers who are your neighbors, and reflect the values we leaders grew up with and try to pass along-

Thank you for that clarification, spoken from experience. G.S. is local and is every bit as good (or bad) as the local leader(s) I, as a guardian, am very aware of what goes on at my G.S.'s meetings. Tomorrow morning she is going on a camping, horse back riding trip that she has been looking forward to all year long, she'll be gone for two over nights and you can bet your bottom dollar that I know every adult that is going on that trip.

Thanks for your participation, the G.S., like most such organizations, is only as good as its local leaders.

32 posted on 06/05/2011 5:15:50 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: steve86

ROFLOL

How the heck did I forget the Young Marines?????


33 posted on 06/05/2011 6:08:51 AM PDT by cizinec
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To: nina0113

Royal Rangers is an Assemblies of God alternative to Boy Scouts. They had mixed success, depending on the experience of the leaders at each church.

I was raised AoG and I went to both Boy Scouts (for a short time) and RR. The RR leaders weren’t very good, but the Boy Scouts leaders were just as bad.

The good thing about RR was that they had it on Wednesday night, so I didn’t have to sit and listen to a preacher who liked the sound of his voice for two hours.

Everything useful I learned about the outdoors I learned from my dad, the Army and experience.


34 posted on 06/05/2011 6:21:10 AM PDT by cizinec
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Ah the dreaded “Becoming a Teenager” badge

My 5th graders did it and loved it, one girl got her teenage cousin to come to a meeting and talk.

Here are the requirements for the now-discontinued badge, as Juniors they pick 6 topics to complete the badge
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Becoming A Teenager
Complete any six of the following requirements to earn this badge:

Get the Facts
Ask a health educator, doctor, nurse, or teacher to visit a Girl Scout meeting to talk about how the body changes in puberty. Before the visit, create a list of at least 10 questions on the physical, mental, and emotional changes both girls and boys your age can expect over the next three to five years.

Successful Teens
find out about girls in their teens who have achieved success through an invention, a business, service to others, sports, the arts, or in another way. Why were they successful?

Read About It
Read or listen to a book that has a teenage girl as the main character. Organize a book swap with your troop or with friends. Have each girl describe a book she has read, then swap her book for another so that each girl gets a new one to read.

Looking Ahead
Find out what's on the minds of teenage girls. Ask teenage sisters, cousins, and neighbors what their greatest challenges are. Check out the questions teenage girls ask on the “Ask Dr. M” section of the Girl Scout Web site www.girlscouts.org/girls and read the advice Dr. M offers. What other suggestions would you make?

Here's Looking at You!
Set up a personal care schedule and follow it. Include combing, brushing, washing, and taken care of your hair; bathing, brushing your teeth, washing your face, and having regular health check-ups.

Freedom and Responsibility
Your teen years will bring a lot more freedom and responsibility. Find out from two or three teens how they handle having more freedom, more responsibility, and more decisions to make.

Today's “Tween”
Look through magazines, read books, or watch television programs and movies that feature girls and boys 9-12 years old. Notice their clothing, behavior, talk, and activities. With your troop, friends, or family, talk about what you see. Are these messages accurate?

Teen in the Family
Interview family members about what it was like for them when they were teens. You can talk about appearance, school, friends, dating, or any other information that is important to you.

Celebrate!
In many cultures girls take part of coming-of-age ceremonies that mark their entrance into adulthood. The Japanese celebrate Seijin no hi Day on the second Monday in January after a girl turns 20 years old. Many Jewish girls have a Bat Mitzvah when they turn 13, and many Hispanic girls celebrate their 15th. birthday, which in Spanish is called quinceanero. With a group of friends, and some adult assistance, plan and conduct your own coming-of-age ceremony.

Teen Habits
Look through magazines or watch some television programs that show teenagers. Make a list of the characteristics and behaviors of teenagers as shown in articles, advertisements, or shows. Ask a teenager if your list is realistic
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AS for discussions “taking any direction permitted by the leader”, yes, with a bunch of girls of any age, that happens. Ever stay up late and listen in on a PJ party of mid schoolers or teenagers or girls at any overnight event after the lights are out?

That's why parents must choose their daughter's leader, or become one themselves, as my mother did and now I have.

Again, use please use facts in your arguments about the immorality of the GS organization.

Does an online comment about one experience based on a supposed comment from one Council rep, represent an entire organization of 3.5 million girls ?(USA strength, 10 million worldwide)

I don't try or pretend to offer my teenage Scouts sex education, but I do offer many activities in a controlled environment where increasingly they make the choices, and peers whose parents trust me and the group and all share similar goals for their girls

35 posted on 06/05/2011 6:39:07 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Graybeard58

Thanks!

Yes, I think regardless of the direction National and International groups and influences try to take Girl and Boy Scouts, those of us who are grassroots are not going to simply go along, nor will we abandon “OUR” organization.

We hold on one community, one troop at a time, preserve and pass along the best of traditions, and ignore the rest.


36 posted on 06/05/2011 6:42:23 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: silverleaf

Well I would not let my daughter join and called the school and told them why.I had a meeting with her and my son who were a year apart and we decided to form our own group.We had 14 members and would go on trips once a month and meet once a week.There is no way I would support a group that has pro-aborts attached to it’s name.


37 posted on 06/05/2011 8:21:40 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today:))
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Excellent research. I wasn’t aware of some of it. Especially this one

http://www.wagggsworld.org/en/CSW54/Day6


38 posted on 06/05/2011 8:33:50 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: silverleaf; fatima

Since you seem to support this program, could I also ask if you support abortion?

It would seem that you might.

What about contraception?

What about embryonic stem cell research that kills the embryo of a possible baby?

What about euthanasia — We will all get older and older — even the GS.

What about same-sex couples?

I’m with fatima on this.....I would never allow my girls to be exposed to these falacies which the Catholic Church has condemned.


39 posted on 06/05/2011 8:40:51 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: silverleaf
Those are good points, and I'm attentive to your good experience.

I would be interested in knowing why, in general, leftists take over the top. I'm not just talking about GS here. I'm talking about just about any church, school, labor, business, or professional organization you can name.

It reminds me of what Our Lord said about "the children of this world are, in their generation, wiser than the children of light" (Luke 16:1-8). But it's little consolation.

40 posted on 06/05/2011 8:57:21 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Baruch atah Adonai Elohenu melech ha'olam, hamotzi lechem min ha'aretz.)
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To: Salvation
By your reasoning good Catholics (or Jews or muslims or Christians) would never join the Girl Scouts

but they just keep voting democrat, so they must all be for those things. Talk about exposing your kids

AS for the Boy Scouts, well, they are being swallowed by the global warming crowd and internationally, the homos have won a foothold

Here's just one article from Cana-duh

http://www.bsa-discrimination.org/html/scoutscanada-gay.html

IMHO, The UN (which was the source of this original conference that set off this firestorm about Girl Scout participation)is a cesspool and leaking into virtually every international and US national group, with the help of democrats. Aside from WAGGGS and World Scouting, check out what the International Red Cross has become.

I know what GS is supposed to be about and I refuse to surrender

check it

41 posted on 06/05/2011 9:54:09 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: NYer
Pinged from Terri Dailies


42 posted on 06/05/2011 11:01:33 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: silverleaf
Catholics don't keep voting dimocrat -- sorry to burst your bubble of perception.

Non FR links:

President Bush: Shares Our Catholic Values

President Bush and John Kerry: On the Issues Important to Catholics

"Seismic" Catholic Shift to Bush [Insight ]

Analyst cites abortion stance as some Catholic voters shift to Bush

Spiritual Windsurfer [Kerry]

Catholics for Bush

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FR LINKS

Former President Bush's memoir will highlight influence of Pope John Paul II
Bush Memoir Says He Returned to His Faith, Time and Time Again in Office [Bush's Closet Catholicism]

Poll: Catholics Favored Bush Over Kerry
CHRISTIANS EAT LIONS IN 2004 ELECTION
Evangelicals Say They Led Charge For the GOP [GOTV effort = 79% Evangelical, 52% Catholic to Bush]
People of Faith Deliver the Election
Kerry Loses His Faith
PRESIDENT BUSH WON CATHOLIC VOTE
Blame the Republicans? No, This Time It's the Christians
Election Reinforces U.S. Religious Divide
Faith Factor Proves Key in U.S. Elections
Poll: Catholics Trending Towards Bush

Kerry Losing Ground Among White Catholics
Voting Our Conscience, Not Our Religion [Catholic Prof Says "Vote Kerry"]
Vatican: Kerry guilty of heresy; incurrs automatic excommunication
Should a Catholic Vote for Bush or Kerry?
Why is Bush getting the bishop's blessing?
Ambassador Ray Flynn in Cleveland 10/16/2004- "Vote 2004: The Catholic Factor"
John Kerry Flip-Flops on When to Use His Catholic Belief on Politics
Abortion is Turning Democrats Off to Kerry
Planned Parenthood Unveils TV Ads Backing John Kerry on Abortion
Catholic bishops should beware of Kerry's 'respect'

Monsignor Jude O'Doherty and President Bush
Kerry Scolds Vatican Over Gay Marriage
Kerry's Catholic Supporters
Some attempts to sabotage Catholic voters
Priest: It's a sin to vote pro-choice
America at the Crossroads
(Clinton Apointee Raymond)Flynn: Catholics must vote for culture of life
The army of God marching for Bush
Kerry’s Auxiliary Bishops
The Catholics for Bush website is now live!

43 posted on 06/05/2011 3:00:05 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

LOL...grimly

I’m not going to compare the number of obama stickers I see on cars picking up kids at my daughter’s catholic school, to your own bubble

My very own Catholic state roundly tossed Robert Ehrlich and Michaal Steele (Catholic) in favor of Martin O’Malley for governor. Twice.


44 posted on 06/05/2011 3:39:12 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: silverleaf

I agree with you on the Obama stickers at church. I have been tempted to cross them out with a marker, but refrained.

As of right now — they are all gone. So I’m wondering what happened??

BTw, our priest gave a three line short announcement on Natural Family Planning in his announcements after Mass today.

1. It’s natural
2. It doesn’t hurt anyone (meaning the married couple)
3. Couples who practice Natural Family Planning have a very low rate of divorce.

I was aware of the first two, but I had no idea about the low rate of divorce. Makes sense, though, since the couple must do a lot of cooperating and communicating.


45 posted on 06/05/2011 3:44:29 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: silverleaf

Aren’t there parts of Maryland that lean liberal — around Baltimore?

And then elsewhere the state is basically Republican?


46 posted on 06/05/2011 3:46:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

3. Couples who practice Natural Family Planning have a very low rate of divorce.

Also people who are committed to NFP take their religion and vows seriously.


47 posted on 06/05/2011 3:53:21 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The right to bear arms is proven to prevent government genocide. Protect yourself!)
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To: Salvation

ehrlich lost EVERYWHERE
Worse the second time

Just look at the axxes who marylanders elect

Mikulski
Sarbanes
Cardin

As for the Senate, luckily Virginia often cancels us out
Unfortunately we often cancel out Virginia

People here may talk a good conservative line but they are braindead democrat voters when they hit the booths. Soccer Moms put obama (and O Malley) in office a lot of them good Catholics- so they think. You don’t even want yo know about my daughters Catholic school curriculum and some of the links her assignments require. Makes similar GS issue look fairly normal and tame.

Half of our GS troops come from the Catholic school, for better or worse


48 posted on 06/05/2011 3:56:17 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Salvation

ehrlich lost EVERYWHERE
Worse the second time

Just look at the axxes who marylanders elect

Mikulski
Sarbanes
Cardin

As for the Senate, luckily Virginia often cancels us out
Unfortunately we often cancel out Virginia

People here may talk a good conservative line but they are braindead democrat voters when they hit the booths. Soccer Moms put obama (and O Malley) in office a lot of them good Catholics- so they think. You don’t even want yo know about my daughters Catholic school curriculum and some of the links her assignments require. Makes similar GS issue look fairly normal and tame.

Half of our GS troops come from the Catholic school, for better or worse


49 posted on 06/05/2011 3:56:29 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: silverleaf

That’s strange. I thought that there were some Republican parts of Maryland.

Here in Oregon, it is Portland and Eugene who win it for the dimocrats. We get so sick of it.


50 posted on 06/05/2011 3:58:19 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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