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US Bishops: Obama's 'Compromise' Has No Clear Protection...(Needless Government Intrusion)
Zenit.org ^ | February 10, 2012 | Commentary on U. S. Bishops

Posted on 02/11/2012 9:27:01 PM PST by Salvation

US Bishops: Obama's 'Compromise' Has No Clear Protection for Key Stakeholders


"Today's Proposal Continues to Involve Needless Government Intrusion"

WASHINGTON, D.C., FEB. 10, 2012 (Zenit.org).- The U.S. bishops say the proposal made today by President Barack Obama's administration regarding the mandate to cover abortifacients, sterilization and contraception "continues to involve needless government intrusion in the internal governance of religious institutions, and to threaten government coercion of religious people and groups to violate their most deeply held convictions."

Obama's proposal came after widespread and energetic condemnation of the Jan. 20 announcement that employers must include abortifacients in the health care plans offered to their employees as part of "preventative care."

"The Catholic bishops have long supported access to life-affirming healthcare for all, and the conscience rights of everyone involved in the complex process of providing that healthcare," the bishops' statement began. "That is why we raised two serious objections to the 'preventive services' regulation issued by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) in August 2011," [and confirmed Jan. 20.]

"All the other mandated 'preventive services' prevent disease, and pregnancy is not a disease," they observed. "Moreover, forcing plans to cover abortifacients violates existing federal conscience laws. Therefore, we called for the rescission of the mandate altogether."

Then, the prelates explained, they opposed the burden placed on the consciences of "insurers forced to write policies including this coverage; employers and schools forced to sponsor and subsidize the coverage; and individual employees and students forced to pay premiums for the coverage."

"We therefore urged HHS, if it insisted on keeping the mandate, to provide a conscience exemption for all of these stakeholders -- not just the extremely small subset of 'religious employers' that HHS proposed to exempt initially."

Anything new?

The communiqué then explains what the president's proposal today implies.

"First, he has decided to retain HHS's nationwide mandate of insurance coverage of sterilization and contraception, including some abortifacients. This is both unsupported in the law and remains a grave moral concern. We cannot fail to reiterate this, even as so many would focus exclusively on the question of religious liberty.

"Second, the President has announced some changes in how that mandate will be administered, which is still unclear in its details."

The bishops said that a preliminary study of the proposal indicates that it "would still mandate that all insurers must include coverage for the objectionable services in all the policies they would write. At this point, it would appear that self-insuring religious employers, and religious insurance companies, are not exempt from this mandate. It would allow non-profit, religious employers to declare that they do not offer such coverage. But the employee and insurer may separately agree to add that coverage. The employee would not have to pay any additional amount to obtain this coverage, and the coverage would be provided as a part of the employer's policy, not as a separate rider."

The U.S. bishops said that these changes need "careful moral analysis" and "moreover, appear subject to some measure of change."

"But," they stated, "we note at the outset that the lack of clear protection for key stakeholders -- for self-insured religious employers; for religious and secular for-profit employers; for secular non-profit employers; for religious insurers; and for individuals -- is unacceptable and must be corrected. And in the case where the employee and insurer agree to add the objectionable coverage, that coverage is still provided as a part of the objecting employer's plan, financed in the same way as the rest of the coverage offered by the objecting employer. This, too, raises serious moral concerns."

The bishops said that parts of the information on Obama's proposal are in writing and other elements have only been explained orally.

"We will, of course, continue to press for the greatest conscience protection we can secure from the Executive Branch. But stepping away from the particulars, we note that today's proposal continues to involve needless government intrusion in the internal governance of religious institutions, and to threaten government coercion of religious people and groups to violate their most deeply held convictions. In a nation dedicated to religious liberty as its first and founding principle, we should not be limited to negotiating within these parameters. The only complete solution to this religious liberty problem is for HHS to rescind the mandate of these objectionable services."



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; prolife
**we note that today's proposal continues to involve needless government intrusion in the internal governance of religious institutions, and to threaten government coercion of religious people and groups to violate their most deeply held convictions. In a nation dedicated to religious liberty as its first and founding principle, we should not be limited to negotiating within these parameters. The only complete solution to this religious liberty problem is for HHS to rescind the mandate of these objectionable services."**

Bingo! That's the answer!

1 posted on 02/11/2012 9:27:11 PM PST by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Rescind the mandate Ping!


2 posted on 02/11/2012 9:33:08 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Rescind the mandate Ping!

Rescind Obamacare.

3 posted on 02/11/2012 9:46:59 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: Salvation

This is the Democrats’ first step in making universal free abortion on demand a reality.


4 posted on 02/11/2012 9:57:56 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: Salvation
Bingo! That's the answer!

Not to quibble, but a better response should be, "This is a First Amendment issue, and as part of the Bill of Rights, is a recognition that this is solely an issue between God and the individual. This is so far above anybody's pay grade, including 0bama's, that the only proper response is 'bug off', and don't make such a fool of yourself again."

5 posted on 02/11/2012 10:34:24 PM PST by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: Salvation

It’s only FEBRUARY. I don’t want him to rescind the mandate now. I want him to stall and drag his feet. I want it to be a BIG ISSUE all summer. I don’t want independents to have time to forget before the election. This won’t affect anybody for awhile, so it’s not as though babies will be murdered tomorrow as a result. No, let’s drag it out so that everyone has a chance to see and hear the full horror of what Obama is doing.


6 posted on 02/11/2012 10:44:05 PM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: ottbmare

Good points.


7 posted on 02/11/2012 10:47:17 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mike Darancette
This is the Democrats’ first step in making universal free abortion on demand a reality.

"On demand"? One wonders whose demand . . . didn't Joe Biden make clear in China that he has no real quibble with China's one-child, forced abortion, forced sterilization policy? Well, not on moral grounds -- only that one worker for four retirees might be unsustainable . . . eventually.

8 posted on 02/12/2012 2:09:54 AM PST by maryz
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To: maryz

That’s ok. Obamacare will be taking care of those four retirees pretty soon. They won’t have a very long retirement.

Seriously, I think euthanasia will be the next non-medical “service” that Obama and his pro-death cronies will slip into Obamacare. This whole health plan is about nothing but social control.


9 posted on 02/12/2012 2:53:08 AM PST by livius
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To: Salvation
It looks like many Christians will soon be given the opportunity to suffer for Christ. Even our Non-Denom Church talked about obeying the rilers God has allowed to be over us, but to disobey edicts that were inconsistent with God's Word and being a Christian.

I think it will be illustrative and heartening to see how it goes, but also disheartening when we see the low numbers of folks who are willing to suffer for being obedient to God. I pray I am wrong.

11 posted on 02/12/2012 5:51:54 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Salvation

I wish the Bishops would stop using the ‘fancy’ word,abortifacients.These are abortion pills that can kill the baby during the first 7 weeks of pregnancy.


12 posted on 02/12/2012 5:56:30 AM PST by ardara
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To: Salvation
Then, the prelates explained, they opposed the burden placed on the consciences of "insurers forced to write policies including this coverage; employers and schools forced to sponsor and subsidize the coverage; and individual employees and students forced to pay premiums for the coverage."

Then, the prelates explained? The collectives can speak up or shut up. Now that they're coming after you it's finally time to speak up. Thanks for speaking up. FORCE, FORCE, FORCE. Forcing "we the people", individuals to do anything is not in the best interests of a "free" republic. What about Hillarycare, Romneycare, Obamacare, TOTALITARIANCARE did you not understand? How did we get to this point?

"Everything about socialism is sham and affectation." 23.11 Ch23 Evil; Economic Harmonies; Frederic Bastiat 1801-1850

Life Is a Gift from God

We hold from God the gift which includes all others. This gift is life — physical, intellectual, and moral life.

But life cannot maintain itself alone. The Creator of life has entrusted us with the responsibility of preserving, developing, and perfecting it. In order that we may accomplish this, He has provided us with a collection of marvelous faculties. And He has put us in the midst of a variety of natural resources. By the application of our faculties to these natural resources we convert them into products, and use them. This process is necessary in order that life may run its appointed course.

Life, faculties, production — in other words, individuality, liberty, property — this is man. And in spite of the cunning of artful political leaders, these three gifts from God precede all human legislation, and are superior to it. Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place. Frederic Bastiat - The Law

13 posted on 02/12/2012 7:15:59 AM PST by PGalt
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To: livius; maryz
That’s ok. Obamacare will be taking care of those four retirees pretty soon. They won’t have a very long retirement.

Seriously, I think euthanasia will be the next non-medical “service” that Obama and his pro-death cronies will slip into Obamacare.

Exactly. Not a long retirement after they've drained your bank account to pay for your "free" state-controlled healthcare. Useless eaters will not be around long once their money runs out.

14 posted on 02/12/2012 7:39:42 AM PST by PGalt
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15 posted on 02/12/2012 1:48:28 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mike Darancette
This is the Democrats’ first step in making universal free abortion on demand a reality.

Yes.

17 posted on 02/12/2012 4:00:01 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: maryz

On the demand of every individual feminist woman who want s to kill a pre-born baby.


18 posted on 02/12/2012 4:02:02 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: DNA.2012

I wasn’t clear enough — I was wondering when it would be the demand of the gov’t, regardless of the wishes of the mother . . .


19 posted on 02/12/2012 4:10:30 PM PST by maryz
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To: maryz
I was wondering when it would be the demand of the gov’t, regardless of the wishes of the mother.

Never. Their constituency is women who want control over whether a pre-born baby lives or dies.

20 posted on 02/12/2012 4:18:38 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: ottbmare

I’d like a lot of people to publicly pose the question, “So, Obama, why are you blatantly violating the Constitution’s guarantee of freedom of religion by mandating what is in health care policies offered by religious institutions?”


21 posted on 02/12/2012 4:37:25 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: Salvation

Thank you Salvation.... for all the links. Much appreciated ..


22 posted on 02/12/2012 4:53:03 PM PST by gramcam
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To: gramcam

It’s an important issue — freedom is! I think we need to keep atrack of it as well as be able to look back at the history of it. One wonders how much will be washed off the internet at a future point in time??


23 posted on 02/12/2012 5:09:15 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

24 posted on 02/13/2012 4:32:39 PM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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