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HABEMUS PAPAM!!! (Live Thread)
EWTN News ^ | March 13, 2013

Posted on 03/13/2013 11:12:01 AM PDT by NYer

Having trouble typing .. my hands are shaking. It will take about 45 minutes before we see him. This is so exciting!


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: badbishops; catholic; conclave; livenewpopethread; livepopethread; pope; popebenedict; popefrancis; rome; vatican
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To: NYer
I'm thinking St. Francis Xavier, but then I am reading a book entitled "Introduction to the Devout Life" by St. Francis de Sales. Of course, non-Catholics might immediately jump to St. Francis of Assisi -- and that's OK, for he also bore the wounds of Christ, the stigmata.
301 posted on 03/13/2013 12:50:55 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ConservativeDude

Well, it is an American Pope, just not north American.


302 posted on 03/13/2013 12:52:17 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: prisoner6

Seems to me most Popes had issues with the rich for not doing enough for the poor. Most didn’t carry on about it because they didn’t want to alienate donors, but the issues are there.

I’m ok with that. I just didn’t want someome so “modern” he would stray from the basic teachings as so many other faiths have done (eg, gay clergy and marriage, abortion).


303 posted on 03/13/2013 12:52:27 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Salvation

St Francis de Sales has some of the most useful writing of any of the Saints I have read.


304 posted on 03/13/2013 12:53:06 PM PDT by Eepsy
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To: NYer
"Fr. Mitch Pacwa will be grinning from ear to ear. "

God Bless Pope Francis!

Has anyone said if his name comes from St. Francis of Assisi or St. Francis Xavier (the Jesuit)?

305 posted on 03/13/2013 12:53:15 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Sing to the Lord a new song; sing to the Lord, all the earth!" Psalm 96:1)
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To: steve86
MSNBC is deeply disappointed

That makes me happy.

It will be interesting to hear what our more liberal parishioners say. I expect Pope Francis's "walk the talk" commitment to care for the poor will make a very good impression.

306 posted on 03/13/2013 12:53:31 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Another Catholic Pope! It must be some kind of conspiracy!" ~Homer_J_Simpson)
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To: Eepsy

He is the patron saint of writers


307 posted on 03/13/2013 12:53:50 PM PDT by stanne
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To: steve86

Liberal, I’m not sure, but if he is a Jesuit, he is definitely a leftist. His will be an iron-fisted rule.


308 posted on 03/13/2013 12:54:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Heart-Rest

Supposedly from Francis of Assisi, as a gesture of unification of the Church (since the Jesuits and the Franciscans were always at odds.


309 posted on 03/13/2013 12:54:47 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: pepsi_junkie

LOL! Haggis? Eeuuuwww.


310 posted on 03/13/2013 12:55:57 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: freedumb2003
Just got a cell phone call from Pope Francis I especially for you:

Come On Home!!


311 posted on 03/13/2013 12:55:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("May the Lord bless you and keep you; may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.")
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To: Salvation
Wow, you have all the "St. Francis" saints there already!

Well, they're all good guys anyway!

312 posted on 03/13/2013 12:56:13 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Sing to the Lord a new song; sing to the Lord, all the earth!" Psalm 96:1)
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To: editor-surveyor
Jesuit, he is definitely a leftist.

In what sense? That's like saying because I've been to San Francisco, I'm gay. Couldn't be further from the truth.

313 posted on 03/13/2013 12:57:58 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: freedumb2003
An American????

Yep. South American.

314 posted on 03/13/2013 12:59:04 PM PDT by TotusTuus
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To: editor-surveyor
Liberal, I’m not sure, but if he is a Jesuit, he is definitely a leftist. His will be an iron-fisted rule.

Nope. I had good Jesuit Fr. Edward Berbusse for U.S. Constitution at Christendom College. Very pro-U.S. Constitution, conservative, intelligent, charitable, tough on tardiness, and otherwise gentle and prayerful soul. May he rest in peace.

I also had Fr. Miceli, who broke with the order, but retained the training. Brilliant, but never lost the Bronx accent. A fine, fine man. May he rest in peace as well.

With Jesuits, your mileage will vary. the corruption of the best is the worst, so there are plenty of bad Jesuits out there. I doubt Pope Francis is one of them.
315 posted on 03/13/2013 12:59:14 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: ottbmare

>> “Supposedly from Francis of Assisi, as a gesture of unification of the Church” <<

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That would lend credance to the belief that he is to be the prophecied False Prophet. Antichrist, and the FP will definitely be “unifiers.” The people love to be fooled by unifiers.


316 posted on 03/13/2013 12:59:33 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: steve86
He is very conservative that is what I read.
317 posted on 03/13/2013 1:00:01 PM PDT by angcat
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To: NYer

In a Good Morning America article, Pope Francis was quoted as saying that tomorrow he will go “pray to the Madonna”. I know the catfights around about whether Catholics pray to Mary or rather seek her prayers. Was this just another reporters bad translation?


318 posted on 03/13/2013 1:00:35 PM PDT by kingcanuteus
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To: MeOnTheBeach
"Challenged free market policies" is pretty vague, and actually somehat equivocating. Could be he opposes the rich Obamunist banksters, which I don't have any opinion on unless you twist my arm WAY back. And then I'll say, "I'm agin' gangsters and banksters."

It's not something that comes up "de fide," anyhow. Meaning it's not a doctrine on faith and morals, it's "prudential judgment," and therefore not a question on which he can speak with authority.

Thou shalt not steal.

Thou shalt not covet.

Whatevery you did unto the least of My brethren, you did unto Me.

Those are the authoritative statements.

319 posted on 03/13/2013 1:03:24 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("May the Lord bless you and keep you; may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.")
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To: editor-surveyor

I suspect quite a few of us are withholding uncharitable comments to you on this blessed occasion. Have a good day, e-s!


320 posted on 03/13/2013 1:03:38 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: stonehouse01

Its a hint: St. Xavier Francis evangelized India.

And of course it was also chosen in a nod to the most admired and beloved Catholic saints of the Middle Ages: St. Francis Of Assisi.

We have three firsts today: the first pope from outside Europe, the first Jesuit Pope and the first Pope to name himself after the founders of the Jesuit and Franciscan orders.

Its a watershed moment in the Catholic World.


321 posted on 03/13/2013 1:04:02 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: dfwgator

Aiiiee! My trivia-fu is pig dung!! ;-)


322 posted on 03/13/2013 1:04:18 PM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: steve86

You need to study the history of the Jesuits, particularly in South America. They are the political power in SA, and the reason for the deep class division, and severe poverty of the working class there.


323 posted on 03/13/2013 1:04:32 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: NYer

324 posted on 03/13/2013 1:05:07 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Salvation; Eepsy
I'm thinking St. Francis Xavier, but then I am reading a book entitled "Introduction to the Devout Life" by St. Francis de Sales. Of course, non-Catholics might immediately jump to St. Francis of Assisi -- and that's OK, for he also bore the wounds of Christ, the stigmata.

Let's see .. St. Francis Xavier was a Jesuit missionary. When the new pope stepped out on the balcony, he was dressed in simple cassock, shunning the mozetta. He wore a very simple cross. From what I hear, he is a very humble man which might suggest St. Francis of Assisi - il poverello. Then again, he is a theologian and, as Eepsy notes, his were great spiritual writings.

Perhaps ... the name represents all three. Wow! What a day ... and what a surprise! All those media heads conjecturing about Turkson, Scola, Dolan .. and the College of Cardinals, applying one of the oldest and most steadfast election methods, submitted this to prayer and gave us a humble and prayerful servant. Surprise!

God bless him! Let's keep those prayers going; he will need them.

Viva il Papa!


325 posted on 03/13/2013 1:06:14 PM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: pepsi_junkie
"God calls each new Pope on his cell phone to congratulate him while he's getting dressed. Then God "friends" the Pope on Facebook. That's been the tradition since the 3rd century. Before that the Pope ascended directly into heaven to have dinner with God where, according to legend, they feasted on beans and haggis. Does that answer your question?



I can't believe this is true because God wouldn't make anyone eat haggis.
326 posted on 03/13/2013 1:06:37 PM PDT by MeOnTheBeach
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To: exit82
I like the way he talks with his hands.

How else would Italians understand him? ;)

327 posted on 03/13/2013 1:06:44 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: NYer

Amen! We are blessed.


328 posted on 03/13/2013 1:07:40 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jane Long

Yes...Pope Francis I of the Americas

I love it.

Deacon Francis


329 posted on 03/13/2013 1:08:33 PM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: Dr.Deth

You are bad ROFL


330 posted on 03/13/2013 1:11:54 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: NYer

I have a question and I am not trying to ruin the moment because this is such a happy day but my sister kept asking me and I had no answer.

She wanted to know why Cardinal Mahoney was permitted to vote in the conclave.


331 posted on 03/13/2013 1:12:21 PM PDT by diamond6 (Need scientific proof of God? Check out: http://www.magisreasonfaith.org/)
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To: llevrok
He is there? The walls will have to be scrubbed!!
332 posted on 03/13/2013 1:12:42 PM PDT by GregB (Where are the Benghazi survivors?)
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To: NYer

333 posted on 03/13/2013 1:12:55 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: NYer

I’m so bummed, the minute the white smoke started I hit the DVR record button and later went to watch it and it never recorded.

:(


334 posted on 03/13/2013 1:13:24 PM PDT by diamond6 (Need scientific proof of God? Check out: http://www.magisreasonfaith.org/)
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To: Dr. Sivana; don-o
You eat well, that's for sure!

My beaming don-o just asked me if I wanted him to cook something special for supper. (He's good like that: not a Dago mind you, but he DOES cook.)

I said, more or less in honor of Papa Francesco, "Spaghetti and meat balls!"

"Esse nufesso qui dice male di maccheroni."

(You'd have to be crazy to say something against macaroni.)

335 posted on 03/13/2013 1:14:11 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("May the Lord bless you and keep you; may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.")
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To: dfwgator

EWTN is a great choice.


336 posted on 03/13/2013 1:15:47 PM PDT by diamond6 (Need scientific proof of God? Check out: http://www.magisreasonfaith.org/)
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To: diamond6

It’s on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QU2w-gTyXBM


337 posted on 03/13/2013 1:17:13 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: stonehouse01
Since he is a Jesuit I would surmise Francis Xavier

???

338 posted on 03/13/2013 1:17:32 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Establishment Republicans don't like that totalitarian thing unless it is THEIR totalitarian thing!)
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To: diamond6

Not a problem. EWTN will rebroadcast it tonight at 9pm after Fr. Mitch Pacwa’s program. You may want to record both as Fr. Mitch is a Jesuit, like our new pope, and will probably be dancing a jig ; - ) I hope Pope Francis cleans up the Jesuits and returns their good name, in the Americas.


339 posted on 03/13/2013 1:17:49 PM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: fishtank

It’s a fallacy of composition to robotically apply that to Francis.


340 posted on 03/13/2013 1:19:18 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: fishtank

Yes .. we all know about Fr. Malachi Martin’s work. We don’t judge all members by the few. In most parts of the world, they are still orthodoxly teaching the faith.


341 posted on 03/13/2013 1:19:45 PM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"MEDIEVAL TIMES AND THE INQUISITION!"

The Inquisition (yeah yeah yeah)...

342 posted on 03/13/2013 1:21:16 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Establishment Republicans don't like that totalitarian thing unless it is THEIR totalitarian thing!)
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To: diamond6
She wanted to know why Cardinal Mahoney was permitted to vote in the conclave.

And that is a great question. He is still considered to be in the good graces of the church, as he has not committed an heretical act. The best explanation is here.

Why Doesn't the Pope Do Something about "Bad" Bishops?

343 posted on 03/13/2013 1:24:16 PM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Dr. Sivana; editor-surveyor

When first meeting a Jesuit, one must always ask, Are you a good Jesuit, or a bad Jesuit?


344 posted on 03/13/2013 1:24:16 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?)
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To: diamond6
n/p -- it looked like this:


345 posted on 03/13/2013 1:26:18 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Establishment Republicans don't like that totalitarian thing unless it is THEIR totalitarian thing!)
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To: editor-surveyor
OMG! Good catch there, editor. Yep (raising eyebrows significantly) -- mighty suspicious, all righty. Like this'ere daggone unifier right here:

John 17:21
That they may all be one; as you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

346 posted on 03/13/2013 1:27:17 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("May the Lord bless you and keep you; may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.")
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To: MeOnTheBeach

Welcome Noob.

The essence of religion is faith, not fact. I guess that’s why it is so difficult for some, because to see past one’s own world view is more difficult than anything else there is.

The beauty of the Church is that God acts through broken people from all walks of life. All of them redeemed sinners, but sinners none the less.

None are worthy of Heaven, but for the sacrifice of Christ for our sins.

So, you see, God generally goes with the underdog on almost everything. He goes with the most unworthy. Moses was a murderer, as was Saul of Tarsus (Paul). Moses was also both pretty dull and not all that bright, such that he made Aaron go with Moses and essentially speak for him on most matters.

That 115 Cardinals pick the Vicar of Christ doesn’t surprise me in the least. Most of them are asking God to pick for them anyway, and then someone gets picked.

Lately, and I’m talking about the last 100 years or so, that someone has been pretty solid.

So, yeah, God will probably be visiting Jorge, I mean Pope Francis, pretty soon, if He hasn’t already.


347 posted on 03/13/2013 1:27:40 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Nothing against spaghetti and meatballs, and my wife makes them well. But a nice Argentinian steak would be great . . . uh, oh. It’s Lent, and our new Pope took thename Francis. OK, pass on the steak. I’ll pick up some fresh parmesan for the spaghetti.


349 posted on 03/13/2013 1:27:41 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (HRC:"Sometimes she looks like a primary schoolgirl and sometimes a pensioner going shopping,"-NKorea)
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To: Bigg Red

Yes, extremely kind. I liked the humble act of bowing his head while the crowd prayed for him.

Not a Catholic here, but I teared up a bit myself. God bless him.


350 posted on 03/13/2013 1:28:18 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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