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More Objective Reality (Cardinal Bergoglio celebrating a "youth Mass" complete with puppets)
Barnhardt.biz ^ | 03/17/2013 | Ann Barnhardt

Posted on 03/18/2013 6:45:12 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

More Objective Reality
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - March 17, AD 2013 1:02 PM MST

From 2011, Pope Francis, then Cardinal Bergoglio, celebrating a "youth Mass" complete with puppets. This is just about as bad as it gets, folks.

The consecrations are at the 5:30 and 6:15 marks. No genuflection. In fact not a single person there on the altar, such as it is, genuflects, much less kneels, except the young server in the front with the incense, who is on his knees. All of the rest of the concelebrating priests remain standing throughout, and of course, the two kid "cantors" just stand there between their performance opportunities.

I GUESS THEY MUST ALL BE CRIPPLED OLD MEN, TOO, HUH?

This is the state of the Church in Buenos Aires, and all of Argentina, as I have been told repeatedly by Argentinians who have emailed me, both laity and clergy. Banality, insipidity, sacrilege. The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, Calvary made present, is treated as a bad joke.

And now, a quote from Cardinal Hummes of Brazil, who is one of Pope Francis' closest friends and colleagues, as evidenced by the fact that Hummes was standing beside Pope Francis on the balcony on Wednesday night:

Q: In what sense is reform necessary?

Cardinal Hummes: Not just of the Curia, but many other things: our way of celebrating ("fazer", lit. "making", "doing") Mass, of doing evangelization, this new evangelization needs new methods. The pope spoke in the meeting with the cardinals of new methods, we need to find new methods.

Citation here.

After what you have read here about the incredibly deep and profound theology of the Mass and the Eucharist over the last several months, you cannot be an honest person and truly believe that there is nothing wrong here, and that everything is fine.

Further, do you honestly expect a man who would participate in such a breathtakingly undignified liturgy to provide any sort of solidity when it comes to economic systems and a realistic path forward out of economic and geo-political collapse?

We are about to have a world war, and the new Pope thinks that the key to evangelizing the world is more liturgical puppets and "fun" Masses, apparently. Yeah. That's what all people are searching for. And besides, that worked so well in the 1970s, we might as well double-down and do it again.

Being an adult and manfully facing objective reality is not pharisaical. Going through life denying that which is obvious and right in front of you; swearing that everything is great and fine when in fact everything is collapsing around you is not good or virtuous. It is ridiculous, childish and sometimes just plain evil. We see this in politics, as people refuse to acknowledge that "their guy" or "their team" not only isn't going to save the day, but that "their guys" are actually the enemy. We see it in finance as people refuse to accept the stark objective reality of simple arithmetic. We see it in current events as more and more thefts, confiscations, incursions and perversions are carried out in plain sight, but the masses refuse to acknowledge that any of these things are indicative of disorder, and that the people talking and warning about them, even when proved right again and again, are either "mean" or "crazy".

With regards to the Church, the gates of hell will never prevail against it, BUT individuals can be lost and are lost to hell. How many souls lost are YOU willing to tolerate for the sake of being "nice"? If you want to talk about charity, here is where you start. Stop worrying about being nice and universally loved, liked or even respected and start telling people the truth, no matter how ugly it may be.

I don't give a lick what any of you people think of me, and I will never ask anyone for any money, ever. There are no advertisements here. There is no cash flow. There is no career ambition. There is no cult of personality. And that is why I am willing to tell you the unvarnished truth. If you want to be lied to, I can direct you exactly where you can go for that.

God is angry. Pray hard. Be sorry for not just your own sins, but for the sins of the whole world. Do penance. Make reparation.

Kyrie eleison. Christe eleison. Kyrie eleison.

Viva il Papa.

**Many readers are emailing asking for suggestions IF Cardinal Hummes' quote proves true and the Traditional Mass, namely the Tridentine Rite, is in any way suppressed or oppressed. I do have a suggestion that you may want to explore. There are several "Eastern Catholic Rites" that are in full, complete communion with Rome and are 100% Catholic that it would be all but impossible for a Pope to mess with - and the chant is GORGEOUS. Look for Byzantine Rite, or Ukrainian Catholic parishes. There are other Eastern Catholic Rites, but Byzantine/Ukrainian are the most common Eastern Catholic rites in North America. Just be certain that you are looking at a Catholic, and NOT Russian Orthodox or Greek Orthodox parish, as the Orthodox are NOT in communion with Rome, and thus lack validity, and also teach heresy, such as contraception, divorce and remarriage, etc., not to mention having messed-up Trinitarian theology, which as we have discussed, if not spot-on leads to massive problems.



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To: IrishBrigade

“Stop worrying about being nice and universally loved, liked or even respected and start telling people the truth, no matter how ugly it may be.” I guess it all depends on who is telling their version of truth. The way I see it she is wrong in her tirades against the Church on the election of Pope Francis and you believe I am wrong. Guess we won’t know until Heaven who was right, If I am privileged enough to get there.

May God’s peace be with you and Ann.


41 posted on 03/19/2013 9:47:59 AM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid

and you believe I am wrong.

...I believe nothing of the sort...I don’t know you at all and can thus assume nothing about you...I only remark that you have not isolated her actual disobedience, and I challenged you...as to whether her rant is useful or not, that is another discussion; what I saw in the posted video is not particularly distressful to me as a Catholic, but if it is to her, then so be it...


42 posted on 03/19/2013 11:54:31 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
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43 posted on 03/24/2013 4:34:13 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Arthur McGowan; E. Pluribus Unum

Canon law expert and advisor Edward Peters blogs at http://canonlawblog.wordpress.com/ and disagrees in his latest posts with your claim that “whatever the Pope does in the liturgy is correct, by definition.”

You posted before the Pope’s washing of the feet of women and non-Catholics in violation of canon law. Peters goes into the questions this action raises. I believe a Papal visit after the usual liturgical ceremony in a church would have been as effective a gesture of concern. Similarly, in regard to the 2011 Mass of Cardinal Bergoglio, why dilute the worship of Christ by turning the Mass into a spectacle with balloons, banners, puppets, and birds flying off? Why not have the rally before of after the Mass?

Thanks to E. Pluribus Unum for posting this for discussion. Vatican II allowed the liturgy to become politicized. We need to restore the dignity and focus of the Mass as the repetition of Christ’s sacrifice for us.


44 posted on 04/06/2013 10:56:08 AM PDT by ubipetrusest (save the liturgy, save the world)
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To: Solson
Anne....trying to be more Catholic than the Pope.

Ann knows she is slipping into irrelevance, now that she no longer any sort of player in the financial world. Her articles correctly identifying the problem with letting Corzine off scot-free were dead on, but now she has no inside connections and no reason for anyone to listen to her. I'm not sure why she thinks her new "attack the Pope' campaign is going to draw more eyeballs than attacking Corzine - who at least deserved it - but it is unseemly at best. The world has bigger problems than Papal puppetry - US Presidential puppetry being one of the biggest. ;)

45 posted on 04/06/2013 11:11:45 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: ubipetrusest

What I meant was the the Pope has, technically, the authority to violate the rubrics. I didn’t mean that it was ipso facto a good decision. I think the Pope did harm by washing the feet of women.


46 posted on 04/06/2013 4:10:05 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: ubipetrusest

As you will note:

Ed Peters does not question that the Pope had the authority to wash the feet of women, contrary to the rubrics. The question is: Are there many who will claim the same authority even though they—not being Pope—have no such authority?

The answer is: Yes. Which means that the Pope’s action, though within his legal authority, undoubtedly will have negative effects.


47 posted on 04/06/2013 4:29:42 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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