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More Objective Reality (Cardinal Bergoglio celebrating a "youth Mass" complete with puppets)
Barnhardt.biz ^ | 03/17/2013 | Ann Barnhardt

Posted on 03/18/2013 6:45:12 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: IrishBrigade

“Stop worrying about being nice and universally loved, liked or even respected and start telling people the truth, no matter how ugly it may be.” I guess it all depends on who is telling their version of truth. The way I see it she is wrong in her tirades against the Church on the election of Pope Francis and you believe I am wrong. Guess we won’t know until Heaven who was right, If I am privileged enough to get there.

May God’s peace be with you and Ann.


41 posted on 03/19/2013 9:47:59 AM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid

and you believe I am wrong.

...I believe nothing of the sort...I don’t know you at all and can thus assume nothing about you...I only remark that you have not isolated her actual disobedience, and I challenged you...as to whether her rant is useful or not, that is another discussion; what I saw in the posted video is not particularly distressful to me as a Catholic, but if it is to her, then so be it...


42 posted on 03/19/2013 11:54:31 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
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43 posted on 03/24/2013 4:34:13 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Arthur McGowan; E. Pluribus Unum

Canon law expert and advisor Edward Peters blogs at http://canonlawblog.wordpress.com/ and disagrees in his latest posts with your claim that “whatever the Pope does in the liturgy is correct, by definition.”

You posted before the Pope’s washing of the feet of women and non-Catholics in violation of canon law. Peters goes into the questions this action raises. I believe a Papal visit after the usual liturgical ceremony in a church would have been as effective a gesture of concern. Similarly, in regard to the 2011 Mass of Cardinal Bergoglio, why dilute the worship of Christ by turning the Mass into a spectacle with balloons, banners, puppets, and birds flying off? Why not have the rally before of after the Mass?

Thanks to E. Pluribus Unum for posting this for discussion. Vatican II allowed the liturgy to become politicized. We need to restore the dignity and focus of the Mass as the repetition of Christ’s sacrifice for us.


44 posted on 04/06/2013 10:56:08 AM PDT by ubipetrusest (save the liturgy, save the world)
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Anne....trying to be more Catholic than the Pope.

Ann knows she is slipping into irrelevance, now that she no longer any sort of player in the financial world. Her articles correctly identifying the problem with letting Corzine off scot-free were dead on, but now she has no inside connections and no reason for anyone to listen to her. I'm not sure why she thinks her new "attack the Pope' campaign is going to draw more eyeballs than attacking Corzine - who at least deserved it - but it is unseemly at best. The world has bigger problems than Papal puppetry - US Presidential puppetry being one of the biggest. ;)

45 posted on 04/06/2013 11:11:45 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: ubipetrusest

What I meant was the the Pope has, technically, the authority to violate the rubrics. I didn’t mean that it was ipso facto a good decision. I think the Pope did harm by washing the feet of women.


46 posted on 04/06/2013 4:10:05 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: ubipetrusest

As you will note:

Ed Peters does not question that the Pope had the authority to wash the feet of women, contrary to the rubrics. The question is: Are there many who will claim the same authority even though they—not being Pope—have no such authority?

The answer is: Yes. Which means that the Pope’s action, though within his legal authority, undoubtedly will have negative effects.


47 posted on 04/06/2013 4:29:42 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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