Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread) October 29, 2003

To: HiTech RedNeck

This software is low quality cr*p alright. I think that $uncoa$t $olution$ really only exists to extract charitable donations from the hospice into the administrators' pockets.
Pretty much what the article says too. Nursing home-Hospital-hospice administration software is certainly another area that could use a GNU GPL version from what I have seen here.

381 posted on 10/29/2003 10:54:18 PM PST by Coral Snake (deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)

"I want to hear Bobby say this himself on national TV"

If only he gets the opportunity!

382 posted on 10/29/2003 10:55:57 PM PST by bonfire

And, she didn't damage her [unmentioned]; he could still have "consortium" with her even in the state she is now. Of course that might wake her up all right, she would give him a swift kick out of her bed!

383 posted on 10/29/2003 11:05:31 PM PST by drlevy88

I'm surprised. I tried a guess at it and came up with "human in name only." Which sure works for Michael Schiavo :-)

384 posted on 10/29/2003 11:11:10 PM PST by T'wit (Depart from me, ye cursed, into the everlasting fire... For I was thirsty and ye gave me no drink)

They may yet side with Schiavo because they don't like "vegetables" and never expect to be one themselves.

Some will . . .they've already made up their minds and won't budge. However, I believe that the majority will see the evil that lurks in the hearts of MS and that despicable lawyer.

385 posted on 10/29/2003 11:18:02 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)

Brainwashing Buttholes

LOL

386 posted on 10/29/2003 11:19:23 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)

To: Lone Voice in the hinterlands

387 posted on 10/29/2003 11:20:24 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)

I wouldn't put it past that bastard that he HAS had sex with Terri while she's been in hospice. Remember that nurse said he shut the door sometimes. God only knows what went on in there.

388 posted on 10/29/2003 11:23:12 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)

I never knew this earlier, but there is a webpage showing
AUDIO EVIDENCE of Terri trying to speak with her
father! From November 2002, three .mp3 files total.

http://www.friendsofterri.org/audio.html

I tried to listen to the clips, but apparently they have
been pretty popular this month. The website host WONT ALLOW
anyone else to hear them until NEXT MONTH. Maybe someone
can donate some webspace with unlimited bandwidth to
these people?

When you click on, for example http://www.zimp.org/1.mp3
you get an error message...

"This website www.zimp.org is currently unavailable due to exceeded monthly traffic quota. Please visit again later."

389 posted on 10/29/2003 11:29:22 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)

Of course that might wake her up all right, she would give him a swift kick out of her bed!

LOL. I would have loved to have asked Michael (on LKL) when the last time was that he kissed Terri. I can only imagine a long pause before some bizarre answer came forth from his mouth.

390 posted on 10/29/2003 11:36:11 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida

To: sweetliberty; EternalVigilance

Here's my suggestion for changes to the description at the top of these daily threads....

This thread will serve as a place for posting all new GENERAL or REFERENCE information, along with LINKS regarding Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information and prayers.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS, or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it MAXIMUM EXPOSURE. (and then add a mention of it here). I will update this thread daily during the week and on Friday nights for the weekends for as long as we need to.

391 posted on 10/29/2003 11:51:17 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)

Heavenly Father, we return to give You thanks that there is relative quietness in the battle raging over this mother's child .. the vile words were not spoken today, but words were spoken, nevertheless. Those who would end Terri's life appeared in the halls of justice to ask that Terri's Law be struck down as unconstitutional. Father, the mockery of men who think that halting an execution of an innocent woman is somehow against the law. O God, how great is Your infinite patience, for You are not willing that anyone would perish outside of Christ. May the Holy Spirit move in the hearts of men who seek Terri's life .. may they repent before it's too late.

Father, grace the lips of those who speak for Terri .. give fire and power to ordinary words spoken by ordinary people. May these words thunder against the words that would appear so eloquent, but so hollow. Give the people ears to discern beyond the beguiling language that beckons people to an early death. Pierce the heart of the judge .. give him all wisdom and righteousness .. we pray that he is that judge who will finally give Terri the relief her family so earnestly seeks. Let no one of dark motive hold sway over her, Father, for she has suffered much. May she rest in You this night with the sweet peace of knowing that she communes with the God of all Comfort.

Strengthen Terri's mom and dad, Lord, for they have lived a nightmare far too long. Thank You that the media has turned its attention to this family's plea .. provide them with a forum and many listeners and viewers, that the people would hear the truth, and having heard, may their outrage pour out upon those who have declared a brain-injured woman, unfit to live.

Father, only the Blood of Jesus Christ could cover sin of this magnitude .. I pray for the salvation of those who see this as mercy, and not murder.

Go before us, Lord, for we don't know the way .. the enemy is fierce and numerous, but You are God, and it is in You that we place our trust and our hope and our very lives. Soon, Lord, may this beloved daughter be restored to her family .. sweep away the years that they have been apart .. grant them many years in which to praise Your holy name ... Amen

392 posted on 10/30/2003 12:01:43 AM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)

To: sweetliberty

Terri has a STATE forced G.A.L coming up soon, and most of us have felt that would be a godsend event. Now I'm NOT SO SURE.

Terri ALREADY HAD a G.A.L, and Greer ignored, then dismissed him! I'm not so sure the next one will be as pro-Terri as the one she just had!

I stumbled on this info earlier today and copied it to my hard drive. Then later could not find WHERE (on F.R.) I had seen it, nor confirm who exatly had originally posted it. (my thanks to whomever that was... If anyone knows please link to that first posting)

Richard L. Pearse Jr, Attorney at Law
Florida Bar No. 282723
Previous Guardian Ad Litem for Terri Schiavo
Part I
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Will PM you all my information on Richard Pearse Jr, the attorney that was appointed to be Guardian ad litem for Terri several years ago. Attorney Pearse, (he offices in Clearwater) who was recommended to the Court's by George Felos, wrote a 10 page brief for the Court after his independent evaluation and effectively sided with Terri's Family against Michael.
Felos then got Legally Blind Judge Greer to ignore the entire report and presentation by licensed Attorney Pearse! in the 2000 trial(1)
Attorney Pearse got pissed and told Greer either to let him do his job or be excused as Guardian ad litem. Greer excused Pearse on George Felos advice, and a new Guardian ad litem was NEVER reappointed for Terri, again at Felos recommendation to the Court.
Terri has gone for years without a Guardian ad litem to protect her interest against Michael and Felos and Legally Blind Judge Greer has allowed it! Attorney Pearse has to protect his license to practice law before the Florida Board and Attorney Pearse has to follow the law. That is why he asked to be excused from the case when Judge Greer was effectively letting George Felos act as Judge in this case, in my humble opinion! The whole thing is just one more giant sham in Judge Greer's court room and in this case, in my humble opinion.
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(1) It is reported, Judge Greer cannot legally drive a car because of his lack of eye sight for Goss sakes. How does the Judge read all these very detailed court offered documents, by expert witnesses, in order to render proper Judicial process and decisions. - NO, in order to make a Judicial decision to effectively execute a severly disabled person by starvation, in my humble opinion.
Part II (This is from a colleague)
I am on a short schedule today, but here is some of the information I pieced together, from a substantial amount received from another forum member for review, regarding Richard Pearse, Attorney at Law who was Guardian Ad Litem (GAL) for Terri Schiavo at one time. Late tonight I will address all this information in full – Ed
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In Short - WHAT IS GOING ON HERE ?!:
Everyone is talking about a new appointed GAL, when the previous GAL's findings were totally ignored. What is this, a "fish until you win" venture on the part of George Felos and his client Michael Schiavo!?
GAL Richard L Pearse, Jr., Attorney at Law was suddenly dismissed after filing his report in which he stated that it was his opinion that:
(1). Michael Schiavo was not a suitable guardian due to his standing to gain financially and
(2). The possibility of rehabilitation for Terri was too great to advocate any kind of Exit Protocol.
George Felos is the one who asked for a GAL in the first place! Felos doesn't like what he hears so he gets Judge Greer, who is legally blind per news reports, to totally quash this experts testimony. THIS IS CRAZY!
ATTORNEY PEARSE NEEDS TO BE CONTACTED IMMEDIATELY – HE IS EASY TO CONTACT PER BELOW:
October 24, 2003 – News Article
An independent guardian has not served in the Schiavo case since 1999, when Clearwater attorney Richard Pearse Jr. issued a report recommending Michael Schiavo not be allowed to disconnect Terri Schiavo's feeding tube among a number of other matters.
PEARSE SAID IN AN INTERVIEW LAST WEEK HE MADE THAT DETERMINATION BECAUSE MICHAEL SCHIAVO STOOD TO BENEFIT FINANCIALLY FROM HIS WIFE'S DEATH BY INHERITING ABOUT $750,000 IN A MEDICAL TRUST FUND.
HERE'S SOME PIECED TOGETHER INFO: - Some information is repetitive
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RICHARD, L PEARSE, JR - FLORIDA ATTORNEY AT LAW,
GUARDIAN AD LITEM FOR TERRI SCHIAVO - AT ONE POINT IN THIS LITIGATION
In June 1998, soon after Michael asked the court for permission to remove Terri's feeding tube, the court appointed Richard L. Pearse, Jr. Attorney at Law as Terri's Guardian Ad Litem (GAL). Pearse's job was to investigate the facts of Terri's case and represent her interests in court. He issued a 10-page report in Dec. 1998 on his finding, and also in January 2000 testified on his findings before Judge Greer.
Ironically, at the beginning of the case in 1998, it was Attorney George Felos who requested an independent guardian for Terri Schiavo and recommended Richard Pearse Jr, Attorney at Law.
At a January 2000 trial, Pearse concluded that he had not found clear and convincing evidence that Terri would have rejected life support. He said she should be kept alive and questioned Michael's Schiavo's credibility.
Pearse urged in no uncertain terms that the petition for removing the feeding tube be denied. He made it clear that he did not believe Schiavo's sudden recollection of Terri's wishes.
Pearse stated "Regarding the pending petition filed by Mr.Michael Schiavo to withdraw the gastric feeding tube which sustains the ward (Terri), (ward = Terri throughout) Mr. Schiavo claims that the ward (Terri) told him after their marriage that she would not want to be kept alive artificially,"
Pearse wrote, "Mr. Schiavo indicated strongly to me (Attorney Pearse) that his petition to withdraw life support has nothing to do with the money held in the guardianship estate, which he would inherit upon the ward's (Terri's) death as her sole heir-in-law."
Pearce continued: "The only direct evidence probative of the issue of the ward's (Terri's) intent is Mr. Schiavo's hearsay testimony regarding removal the ward's feeding tube which would inevitably result in her death" However, his credibility is necessarily adversely affected by the obvious financial benefit to him in the event of her death while still married to him. Her death also permits him to "get on" with his life, as Mr. Schiavo stated during questioning."
Per Attorney Pearse's Report - "Since there is no corroborative evidence of the ward's (Terri's) intentions, and since the only witness claiming to have such evidence is the one person who will realize a direct and substantial financial benefit from the ward's death, the undersigned guardian ad litem is of the opinion that the evidence of the ward's (Terri's) intentions developed by the investigation, DOES NOT MEET THE CLEAR AND CONVINCING STANDARD."< In his report, Pearse said Michael Schiavo was not a credible witness to his wife's end-of-life wishes because he waited years before coming forward with the claim that she wanted to die. Pearse also noted that Michael Schiavo would benefit financially from her death and be able to "move on with his life" in Mr Schiavo's words.
Pearse stated that after Michael Schiavo received the malpractice settlement, "HE HAS A CHANGE OF HEART CONCERNING FURTHER TREATMENT OF HIS WIFE,". Pearse, noting that Schiavo would benefit financially if his wife died, recommended that the feeding tube remain.
That Michael Schiavo's attitude and actions changed as soon as the money from the malpractice suit was in the bank was not lost in Pearse's Expert Court Appointed Review. – (News Report Comment)
Per Attorney Pearse - "From that point forward, the ward's husband has isolated the ward from her parents, has on at least one occasion refused to consent for the ward to be treated for an infection, and, ultimately, four years later, has filed the instant petition for the withdrawal of life support on the basis of evidence apparently known only to him which could have been asserted at any time during the ward's illness," he said.
Attorney Pearse said he was "troubled by the fact that Michael waited until 1998 to petition to remove the feeding tube, even though he claims to have known her wishes all along, and that he waited until he won a malpractice suit based on a professed desire to take care of her into old age".
Pearse continued: As her husband, Michael would inherit what is left of her malpractice award, originally $700,000, which is held in a trust fund administered by the court. Accounting of the fund is sealed. BUT MICHAEL'S LAWYER, GEORGE FELOS, SAID MOST OF IT HAS BEEN SPENT ON LEGAL FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CUSTODY DISPUTE.
Pearse also said he did not find Joan and Scott Schiavo's testimony credible.<<<<<<<<<<<<<
* * INTERESTING - By the time the case came to trial in Jan. 2000, Michael Schiavo had found two witnesses to corroborate his version of Terri's wishes: Scott Schiavo, his brother, and Joan Schiavo, a sister-in-law. When Pearse initially became involved in 1998 Michael had NO OTHER WITNESSES TO HIS STORY * * .
Pearse stated "One of the interesting and ironic aspects of this case is that all of the parties have portrayed themselves as representing her interests," he said. "It's always desirable that a person in Terri's position have an independent representative who has no particular interest in the case other than Terri." (THIS IS STANDARD JUDICIAL PROCEDURE IN CASES LIKE THIS – PARTICULARLY WITH THE LACK OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN FAMILY MEMBERS. – Ed)
Pearse recommended that a guardian ad litem (not necessarily himself) be appointed to protect Terri's interests on a go-forward basis.
Charging Pearse was "biased", Felos promptly had Pearse removed as guardian ad litem. No one was appointed in his place by Judge Greer.
GEORGE FELOS RECOMMENDED A GUARDIAN AD LITEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. FELOS DIDN'T LIKE WHAT THE EXPERT WITNESS ATTORNEY PEARSE HAD TO SAY, THEN HAD JUDGE GREER REMOVE PEARSE AND NULLIFY THIS EXPERT WITNESSES TESTIMONY – IS THIS DUE PROCESS AND PROPER ETHICAL STANDARDS REQUIRED OF A FLORIDA JUDGE ?! WHAT IS GOING ON HERE! - ED
Greer accepted their testimony as "creditable and reliable." .......(This is inferior to "clear and convincing" required in Attorney Pearse's expert report, and clearly would have been the prudent requirement under Florida Law for the Judge to require in these unusual circumstances - Ed.
Judge Greer also dismissed the criticism that "Michael Schiavo has not acted in good faith by waiting eight plus years" to file his petition. "THAT ASSERTION HARDLY SEEMS WORTHY OF COMMENT," GREER SAID.
GREER RULED IN MICHAEL SCHIAVO'S FAVOR.
Other Added Info:
Pearse stated in this report - "Since there is no corroborative evidence of the ward's (Terri's) intentions, and since the only witness claiming to have such evidence is the one person who will realize a direct and substantial financial benefit from the ward's death, the undersigned guardian ad litem is of the opinion that the evidence of the ward's intentions developed by the investigation, DOES NOT MEET THE CLEAR AND CONVINCING STANDARD."<< THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT LEGAL WORDS - ED
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
The Schindlers had contacted a woman Michael dated in 1991 who told them Michael had confessed to her he did not know what Terri would want. Although the woman refused to sign an affidavit, it bought the Schindlers some time.
And with it, they found Trudy Capone.
A former co-worker of Michael's, Capone signed an affidavit on May 9, 2001, stating "Michael confided in me all the time about Terri ...He said to me many times that he had no idea what her wishes were."
Attorney Patricia Anderson, who began representing the Schindlers in 2001, said the failure to replace Pearse has hindered the parents' case because Michael Schiavo, as Terri's legal guardian, controls her medical care and even her visitors.
The parents' hands are tied in terms of what evidence they could present," she said, "because they didn't have access to Terri. They're not even permitted to know if she's been running a temperature. If a guardian ad litem had been appointed, it would have been a different story."

393 posted on 10/30/2003 12:39:55 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)

To: fml; JustPiper; sweetliberty; yonif; EternalVigilance; floriduh voter; Dustbunny; The Red Zone; ...

Please see post 393 regarding Terri's GAL

394 posted on 10/30/2003 12:41:36 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)

oops, almost forgot, the original post ALSO asked people to write to GRETA regarding Terri's FIRST GAL...

HGR-Some Interesting Research Info For You
Richard Pearse knows a lot and sided with Terri's family then Felos and Greer quashed the information illegally.
Pearse needs to be on Greta Van Susteren's show. He could really raise some red flags for the DOJ and the FBI on this deal, and really hurt Felos and Greer to where Gov Bush and the Attorney General could "politically safely" launch a formal investigation.
Below is internal quick research file notes:
Harv

395 posted on 10/30/2003 12:48:46 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)

To: sweetliberty; All

If Terri is ever allowed to get any REAL therapy, I think she might do well with an experimental procedure that is getting more and more common.

And that is... Re-growing damaged parts of an organ using harvested stem cells from her own body. Sounds kooky? Well it IS HAPPENING elsewhere.

It first made major headlines in Detroit's Beaumont (sp?) hospital early this year, where a 16-year old had half of his heart die from a nail-gun accident. The boy was certain to die unless he got a transplant, which was not looking likely.

Instead, doctors there were allowed to do a humanitarian use of an experimental procedure that worked well. (I'm recalling these details from memory)

Doctors gave the teenager drugs for 3 weeks I believe, to help his body stimulate new stem-cell production in his bone marrow. Then they harvested much of that marrow and extracted and concentrated his stem cells.

Then they inserted a catheter, and fed it thru arteries as close as possible to the damaged areas of his heart, and at that point released his stem cells back into his own body.

Most of those stem cells deposited into the area of the organ damage, and relatively soon (a week or two I believe) regrew the damaged areas of his heart!

I understand this technique is expected to work in practically any area of the body, including areas of brain damage. Terri is still young enough to respond well to this increased stem cell production, harvesting, and replanting.

(...but first, we've GOT to get her AWAY from Michael's death grip!!!!)

396 posted on 10/30/2003 1:18:47 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)

To: Saundra Duffy

Remember that nurse said he shut the door sometimes. God only knows what went on in there.

would you mind keeping that stuff to yourself?

it's disgusting and you should be ashamed.

heaven forbid this woman should ever recover and deprive you of the perfect blank state upon which you so relish projecting your good vs. evil fantasies.

397 posted on 10/30/2003 1:25:54 AM PST by jethropalerobber

To: floriduh voter; **Texas; yall

TEXANS FOR TERRI. This Texas On Line Newspaper seems to think that Terri is in purgatory. If you'd like to comment in their feedback forum, a Terri supporter has already posted there.
Thanks for that link ! I added my comment. Let's see if their Mods will 'approve' it now ...
Reposting your link for easy access
I don't recall ever hearing of that NT Daily.com before ...

398 posted on 10/30/2003 2:37:59 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)

"He was paid for having to go without!"

Exactly! And all the time he was "going within"! Suffering? Pfffft. Another example of what a fraud MS is.

399 posted on 10/30/2003 2:46:07 AM PST by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")

To: floriduh voter

I believe she is a saint , she's bring people of all
races,sexes,religion,ages all together. In the minority
community where I live, Women and men are agree(ing) that
something wrong is happening here, once they see the video
and see the mother and father trying to get there girl(child) back and these evil MEN trying to kill her, and
not having the right to have her HOLY communion, and last
rights ready got alot of minority people (democrats,Republicans,Ind, don't vote) PI**-Off, and are starting to see the truth, THESE MEN ARE DEMONS.....

Let's not forget, the HOLY Mother Image is not far from
Theresa. I know it's no coincidence, and here's another
coincidence, since her feeding tube was removed on the 15th. The Sun is/had been going crazy. It's kind of the old movie "7th Sign", we are fighting pure evil (MS,FE,J.G,now the ACLU, aand there new $$$$ death camps).....If we lose
, it's over....This is our test from God....forgive me.
here's a reminder....+

http://www.visionsofjesuschrist.com/weeping13.htm

400 posted on 10/30/2003 3:18:23 AM PST by Orlando (We fight against evil forces.)

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