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Etruscan Demons, Monsters Unearthed
Discovery news.com ^ | 11-5-2003 | Rossella Lorenzi

Posted on 11/05/2003 8:18:48 AM PST by blam

Etruscan Demons, Monsters Unearthed

Rossella Lorenzi, Discovery News

Demonic Charioteer with the Shadow of Death

Nov. 5, 2003 — Etruscan art, made of strange demons and monsters, is emerging in a Tuscan village, in what could be one of the most important discoveries of recent times, according to scholars who have seen the paintings.

Lurking on the left wall of a 4th century B.C. tomb, the exceptionally preserved monsters have been unearthed during the ongoing excavation of the Pianacce necropolis in Sarteano, a village 50 miles from Siena, Italy.

"So far we have found some scenes of banquets, snake-like monsters, demons, a hyppocampus and a sarcophagus broken in many fragments, probably by tomb robbers. We are confident to find more art as the digging goes on," archaeologist Alessandra Minetti told Discovery News.

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One of Europe's most mysterious people, the Etruscans forged Italy's most sophisticated civilization before the Romans. They rose from Italian prehistory around 900 B.C. and dominated most of the country for about five centuries.

Yet mystery shrouds their history. First defeated by the Romans in the 4th century B.C., in 90 B.C., after centuries of decline, the Etruscans became Roman citizens. They left no literature to record their culture — few traces of their puzzling, non-Indo-European language survive. Only the richly decorated tombs they left behind provide a glimpse into their world.

"The newly excavated tomb belonged to a rich family, and shows that Sarteano wasn't just a countryside village, but a politically important center," Minetti said.

Vividly colored, the scenes in the tomb reflect a sinister change in the Etruscan concept of death. A fun loving and sensuous people, on the verge of decline they adopted the Greek vision of a demon-infested underworld.

"The figure with red hair is surely a death demon of some kind. This is confirmed by the black figure at her side, used by the Etruscans to characterize demons," chief archaeologist Mario Iozzo, director of the Center for Conservation in Florence and Chiusi's Archaeological Museum, told Discovery News.

With a chariot driven by gryphons, the demonic figure has probably come to hurry the soul of the deceased to the Underworld. Scholars are not sure whether the figure is Charu (Charon), normally shown as a bearded man with ruddy skin, the female Vanth, usually winged, or a totally unknown demon. They hope to find more clues as the digging continues.

Other paintings in the burial chamber are celebratory, showing joyful people banqueting — a scene more in tone with the spontaneity of the early Etruscan art.

Scholars are intrigued. "From what I can see, I can state that the painting is of exceptional quality, indeed a masterpiece of the late Etruscan style," Michael Padgett, curator of ancient art at Princeton University Art Museum, told Discovery News.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anatolia; archaeology; demons; etruscan; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; luwian; luwians; monsters; trojanwar; unearthed
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To: MarcoPolo
I hear a popular saying in Northern Italy is: "When you travel south of Rome, you are in Africa." ;-)
21 posted on 11/05/2003 11:09:43 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: shamusotoole
Too early.

The great Roman historians wrote most usefully of things of their own time - Tacitus, Caesar, etc. Only Livy went back to the origins of Rome, and his work is very unreliable.
22 posted on 11/05/2003 11:18:59 AM PST by buwaya
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To: VadeRetro
My theory is that they were like Basques (also an isolate).

They were much more interesting than Basques though.
23 posted on 11/05/2003 11:21:13 AM PST by buwaya
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To: Evil Inc
The Celts/Gauls were later invaders and occupiers of Northern Italy. They fought both Etruscans and Romans.
24 posted on 11/05/2003 11:22:31 AM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya
Post modern man --- liberals - rats !


25 posted on 11/05/2003 11:27:43 AM PST by f.Christian (( Alpha - Omega Design - Architecture ... designeduniverse.com --- Science3000 ! ))
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To: Cultural Jihad
Really? Hm. That IS interesting. Old, oft-quoted folk sayings are often full of hidden truths.
26 posted on 11/05/2003 3:59:22 PM PST by MarcoPolo
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To: farmfriend
Fascinating and absolutely NOTHING like anything I've ever seen previously, attributted to the Etruscans.
27 posted on 11/05/2003 7:40:34 PM PST by nopardons
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To: eastsider
Ahhhhhhhhh ... the Aeneid ! I I SING OF ARMS AND ARMAMENTS " ... the onpening line, when said by a male. When said by a female, those same lines read : " I SING OF A MAN'S ARMS AND THE ARMS HE CARRIES ."
28 posted on 11/05/2003 7:44:17 PM PST by nopardons
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To: blam
Thanks for the post. Significant new finds are always interesting.
29 posted on 11/05/2003 7:44:51 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: eastsider
Okay, so you can recite the first three words of the Aeneid.

But can you recite the first ten lines of the Oddessey??

a billion years ago, back in high school, we had to memorize it, and I can still recite part of it from memory.

so there, na na.
30 posted on 11/05/2003 7:51:59 PM PST by fqued ("He who doesn't reboot at least once a day is not using the capacity of his computer.")
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To: blam
Bill and Hillary?
31 posted on 11/05/2003 7:56:53 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: buwaya
like the BAsques

An interesting bit of research found that the Basques are not genetically different from their neighbours, only linguistically. Of course, being a small population they must have intermingled with the communities around them. The basque language is also supposed to be related to the Chechen. The other non-IndoEuropean linguistic group in Europe is the Finnish-Ugaritic group to which Finnish and some Baltic languages belong.

Weren't the Celts also Indo-European? Not Aryan though.
32 posted on 11/06/2003 12:36:49 AM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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To: buwaya
Found this list of Indo-European language groups:

Subfamily Group Subgroup Languages and Principal Dialects
Anatolian     Hieroglypic Hittite*, Hittite (Kanesian)*, Luwian*, Lycian*, Lydian*, Palaic*
Baltic     Latvian (Lettish), Lithuanian, Old Prussian*
Celtic Brythonic   Breton, Cornish*, Welsh
Celtic Continental   Gaulish*
Celtic Goidelic or Gaelic   Irish (Irish Gaelic), Manx*, Scottish Gaelic
Germanic East Germanic   Burgundian*, Gothic*, Vandalic*
Germanic North Germanic   Old Norse* (see Norse): Danish, Faeroese, Icelandic, Norwegian, Swedish
Germanic West Germanic (see Grimm's law) High German German, Yiddish
Germanic West Germanic (see Grimm's law) Low German Afrikaans, Dutch, English, Flemish, Frisian, Plattdeutsch (see German language)
Greek     Aeolic*, Arcadian*, Attic*, Byzantine Greek*, Cyprian*, Doric*, Ionic*, KoinE*, Modern Greek
Indo-Iranian Dardic or Pisacha   Kafiri, Kashmiri, Khowar, Kohistani, Romany (Gypsy), Shina
Indo-Iranian Indic or Indo-Aryan   Pali*, Prakrit*, Sanskrit*, Vedic*
Indo-Iranian Indic or Indo-Aryan Central Indic Hindi, Hindustani, Urdu
Indo-Iranian Indic or Indo-Aryan East Indic Assamese, Bengali, Bihari, Oriya
Indo-Iranian Indic or Indo-Aryan Northwest Indic Punjabi, Sindhi
Indo-Iranian Indic or Indo-Aryan Pahari Central Pahari, Eastern Pahari (Nepali), Western Pahari
Indo-Iranian Indic or Indo-Aryan South Indic Marathi (including major dialect Konkani), Singhalese (Sinhalese)
Indo-Iranian Indic or Indo-Aryan West Indic Bhili, Gujarati, Rajasthani (many dialects)
Indo-Iranian Iranian   Avestan*, Old Persian*
Indo-Iranian Iranian East Iranian Baluchi, Khwarazmian*, Ossetic, Pamir dialects, Pushtu (Afghan), Saka (Khotanese)*, Sogdian*, Yaghnobi
Indo-Iranian Iranian West Iranian Kurdish, Pahlavi (Middle Persian)*, Parthian*, Persian (Farsi), Tajiki
Italic (Non-Romance)   Faliscan*, Latin, Oscan*, Umbrian*
Italic Romance or Romanic Eastern Romance Italian, Rhaeto-Romanic, Romanian, Sardinian
Italic Romance or Romanic Western Romance Catalan, French, Ladino, Portuguese, Provençal, Spanish
Slavic or Slavonic East Slavic   Belorussian (White Russian), Russian, Ukrainian
Slavic or Slavonic South Slavic   Bulgarian, Church Slavonic*, Macedonian, Serbo-Croatian, Slovenian
Slavic or Slavonic West Slavic   Czech, Kashubian, Lusatian (Sorbian or Wendish), Polabian*, Polish, Slovak
Thraco-Illyrian     Albanian, Illyrian*, Thracian*
Thraco-Phrygian     Armenian, Grabar (Classical Armenian)*, Phrygian*
Tokharian (W China)     Tokharian A (Agnean)*, Tokharian B (Kuchean)*

33 posted on 11/06/2003 12:39:53 AM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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To: buwaya
TRue, the Aenied seems very much like the Romans were desperate to show that they were not barbarians at earlier times. Which they were. The GReeks themselves (contrary to the dad in 'My Big Fat GReek Wedding') were themselves barbarians before and even arguably IN the Mycenean age (1500 to 1200 B.C.) when the war against Troy took place. After that, they went into stagnation until the rise of the city states. A 1700 BC date of the Minoan civilisation in Crete still makes it a comparatively infantile civilisation compared to those in the Nile, Euphrates-Tiger and Indus valleys with their early points stretching back to 3100 BC (for the scorpion king) and 4000 B.C. (for the Sumerians in what is now modern day Iraq).

History is fascinating, eh?
34 posted on 11/06/2003 12:45:30 AM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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To: Cronos
The * indicate dead languages.
35 posted on 11/06/2003 12:49:01 AM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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To: r9etb
few traces of their puzzling, non-Indo-European language survive

Related to the Basques?

Greenberg includes Etruscan in Eurasiatic, although not enthusiastically (there really isn't much data)

See Indo-European and Its Closest Relatives: The Eurasiatic Language Family: vol. I Grammar and Vol II Lexicon by Joseph Greenberg (the greatest linguist of the 20th century)

Soviet linguists have concluded that Basque is part of a Dene-Sino-Caucasic phylum that includes na-Dine (Athabaskan (icl Navaho and Apache), Sino-tibeten, Yeniesian (Kott and Kett), Burushaski, Basque, and the non-Kartvelian Caucasian tongues.

Discussed in On the Origin of Languages: Studies in Linguistic Taxonomy by Merritt Ruhlen.

36 posted on 11/06/2003 1:02:19 AM PST by Virginia-American
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To: r9etb
few traces of their puzzling, non-Indo-European language survive

Related to the Basques?

Greenberg includes Etruscan in Eurasiatic, although not enthusiastically (there really isn't much data)

See Indo-European and Its Closest Relatives: The Eurasiatic Language Family: vol. I Grammar and Vol II Lexicon by Joseph Greenberg (the greatest linguist of the 20th century)

Soviet linguists have concluded that Basque is part of a Dene-Sino-Caucasic phylum that includes na-Dine (Athabaskan (icl Navaho and Apache), Sino-tibeten, Yeniesian (Kott and Kett), Burushaski, Basque, and the non-Kartvelian Caucasian tongues.

Discussed in On the Origin of Languages: Studies in Linguistic Taxonomy by Merritt Ruhlen.

37 posted on 11/06/2003 1:05:25 AM PST by Virginia-American
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To: farmfriend
Could you please add me to your "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" ping list?

Thanks!

38 posted on 11/06/2003 1:24:20 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: fqued
I'd wager you went to a Jesuit high school in the NE : )
39 posted on 11/06/2003 6:54:04 AM PST by eastsider
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To: nopardons


40 posted on 11/06/2003 7:05:18 AM PST by eastsider
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