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When UFOs Arrive
www.popularmechanics.com ^ | February 2004 | BY JIM WILSON

Posted on 02/11/2004 9:41:52 AM PST by Momaw Nadon

The U.S. and other world governments already have detailed secret plans for first contact.

When UFOs land, a series of plans created to deal with nuclear emergencies and biological attacks will be activated.

Within the scientific community, the question is no longer whether extraterrestrial life exists, but if ET is smart enough to do long division. Scientists are of two minds regarding the existence of extraterrestrial intelligence. Skeptics acknowledge simple life-forms might be found on other planets, but insist that intelligent life is unique to Earth. Their belief is based on the assumption that Earth possesses unique physical attributes, including a magnetic field that deflects cosmic rays and a moon that absorbs asteroids. Together, these protective features make Earth a rare safe harbor--one that nurtured the evolution of primitive life-forms into intelligent beings. The opposing camp sees the prospect for discovering alien life in more mathematical terms. Its touchstone is the Drake Equation, which links the probability of discovering extraterrestrial intelligence to factors such as the size of the universe and the number of stars with earthlike planets. With the discovery of each new planet beyond Earth's solar system--there are now more than 100--the odds of encountering intelligent alien life increase. Governments and international organizations around the world have taken notice of the changing odds. No governmental official has gone on record claiming that UFOs are real, let alone a threat. Yet with little public fanfare, they have begun preparing for the single most important event in human history: first contact. That is, the moment earthlings discover incontrovertible proof that they are not alone.

Early Warning
Unless ET materializes from another dimension in the middle of the Super Bowl, humans most likely will have some advance warning of its arrival. How much time we get to straighten up for extraterrestrial company depends upon who spots ET first.

The privately funded SETI Institute uses radio telescopes owned by observatories around the world to sweep the sky for signals broadcast by advanced civilizations. If ET has read Emily Post, or her intergalactic equivalent, and calls ahead, we could have years, even decades, to prepare for first contact. Unfortunately, the current SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) project can afford to look at only small swatches of the sky, so any extraterrestrial courtesy calls probably will be missed.

A more likely scenario is that the U.S. Air Force would spot ET's spacecraft as it traverses the void between the Earth and the moon. Using powerful radar and optical telescopes in Hawaii, Greenland, Florida and the Indian Ocean, the Air Force Space Command tracks satellites, monitors missile launches, and spots baseball- and larger-size bits of orbiting debris with the hope of preventing it from perforating a space shuttle or the International Space Station. If ET turns up on Space Command's radar, it would mean the alien visitors are only hours or minutes away.

A Proposed Welcoming Committee

The International Academy of Astronautics in Paris maintains a list of volunteers willing to help world governments if ET arrives. Most are astronomers. Here is the team that PM would prefer to see on the job. Shown counterclockwise from the center are: Sen. John Glenn, American Representative. As the first American to orbit the Earth and an elected political leader, the senator is the obvious choice to lead the American delegation. Frank Drake, Science Officer. Creator of the Drake Equation and a driving force behind the SETI project, Drake would represent the world's scientific community. Hal Puthoff, Powerplant Engineering. An expert on zero-point energy, a means of extracting limitless power from the quantum vacuum without violating the known laws of physics, Puthoff would understand how ET powers its craft.

Sheila E. Widnall, Weapons Systems. A Massachusetts Institute of Technology professor who served as Secretary of the Air Force in the 1990s, Widnall would be able to assess ET's weapons. Ning Li, Propulsion Systems. A former NASA scientist, Li devised the theory that explains how the electromagnetic force that we use every day might also be harnessed to manipulate gravity. Perhaps ET uses similar technology. K. Eric Drexler, Structural Systems. A trailblazer in the now fast-growing field of nanotechnology--building materials atom by atom--Drexler pioneered the idea of smart materials, which ET would doubtlessly also use in its craft. Jane Goodall, Communications Officer. Having devoted her life to the study of chimpanzees, primatologist Goodall has proved her ability to communicate with intelligent nonhumans.

Countdown To Contact
The broad-brush outline for Earth's response to the first alien encounter is set out in an international agreement called the "Declaration of Principles Concerning Activities Following the Detection of Extraterrestrial Intelligence." Written by a committee of scientists organized by the SETI Institute, the declaration spells out what astronomers should do, and what they should avoid doing, immediately after first contact.

Perhaps the most surprising aspect of the agreement is that astronomers who sign on to the declaration agree to keep the news of an imminent contact under their hat until the astronomy community and authorities have been notified.

The declaration also establishes fairly specific guidelines regarding the protection of the radio frequencies that alien civilizations might use to communicate with Earth. As soon as a radio signal is confirmed as originating from an extraterrestrial source, the International Telecommunications Union would ask governments around the world to forbid use of that portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. It is hoped that ET will have sufficiently studied human habits to understand that calling earthlings on the frequencies used for microwave ovens and garage door openers will be interpreted as a belligerent act.

Close Encounter
Around 1999 the first contact protocols were put to the test. For 12 hours, SETI astronomers marveled at the prospect that their golden moment had arrived. A signal that repeated in an organized pattern was detected beaming straight at the Earth from 1 million miles in space.

The first priority was to alert radio astronomers around the world to redirect their telescopes. The signal from the distant stationary object quickly faded as the relentless rotation of the Earth swept it out of the telescope's listening range. Douglas Vakoch, the SETI Institute's social scientist responsible for preparing Earth's reply to an extraterrestrial message, tells POPULAR MECHANICS what happened next: "At this point, all of our discussions were internal to our team. We didn't want to cry wolf. Then, in the midst of the process, we get a call from The New York Times." So much for the secrecy provision of the SETI protocol. Within hours, the story evaporated. The SETI team identified the mystery signal as a data transmission from SOHO, a sun-watching observatory on an almost-stationary orbit about 1 million miles from Earth.

Vakoch says he was not surprised that the story of the possible alien contact leaked so quickly. "These guidelines have no legal force. They have been drafted in the hope of getting broader discussion."

As far as the U.S. government is concerned, that discussion started and ended more than 40 years ago. Regardless of how the world's astronomy community might want to handle first contact, Uncle Sam has ideas of his own. And they rest on the assumption that ET is first and foremost an illegal alien.

Presumed Dangerous
The question of how humanity might react to its first contact with intelligent aliens was officially raised in the late 1950s by the then newly created National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). Curious as to how discoveries about the origin of the universe might affect society as a whole, NASA contracted with the Brookings Institution, a leading think tank, to research the question. Only a small part of its 100-page answer, which came to be known as "The Brookings Report," dealt with alien encounter. But it contained a stern warning. "Anthropological files contain many examples of societies, sure of their place in the universe, which have disintegrated when they had to associate with previously unfamiliar societies espousing different ideas and different life ways; others that survived such an experience usually did so by paying the price of changes in values and attitudes and behavior."

In 1972, as engineers prepared the first space mission that would travel outside of Earth's solar system, NASA decided to ignore warnings in the 1960 "Brookings Report" about the dangers inherent in contact with an advanced alien race. Instead, the space agency sent an invitation for extraterrestrials to visit Earth. A gold-anodized aluminum plaque engraved with a map showing the location of Earth was attached to the Pioneer 10 spacecraft. When it sent its last message, in January 2003, it was more than 7 billion miles along on a trip that will take it to the star Aldebaran.

State Of Emergency
If ET turns up at NASA's doorstep bearing that invitation, it is in for a surprise. Instead of getting a handshake from the head of NASA, it will be handcuffed by an FBI agent dressed in a Biosafety Level 4 suit. Instead of sleeping in the Lincoln Bedroom at the White House, the alien will be whisked away to the Department of Agriculture's Animal Disease Center on Plum Island, off the coast of New York's Long Island. Here it will be poked and probed by doctors from the National Institutes of Health. A Department of Energy (DOE) Nuclear Emergency Search Team (NEST) will tow away its spacecraft.

Unfriendly as this welcome may seem, it is the chain of events that most likely will follow the visitor's arrival. Unique as the appearance of an alien-piloted spacecraft may be, the event incorporates elements of three situations familiar to federal emergency response workers: a plane crash, the release of radioactive material, and the capture of an animal suspected of harboring a contagious disease. Responsibilities in these situations are spelled out in Presidential Executive Orders.

Unless it is spewing exhaust, the craft would be assumed to be nuclear powered. This determination would put NEST technicians in charge of securing the craft and moving it to a DOE facility, most likely in New Mexico, where it would be in close proximity to the Sandia and Los Alamos nuclear laboratories and the White Sands Missile Range. International agreements also put NEST on call if the craft lands out of the United States, as happened in 1978 when a Soviet satellite leaking nuclear fuel landed in the Canadian wilderness.

NEST, however, would operate in the background. In a nuclear emergency, the FBI is put in charge of public safety, public health and public information. Those, at least, are the plans. How things might actually turn out is anyone's guess.

Skeptics often ask why UFO sightings seem to take place only in remote locations instead of on busy city streets. Perhaps ET knows what earthlings have in mind when it lands.


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To: Chris Talk
Take me to your leader.

901 posted on 02/17/2004 7:59:06 AM PST by evets (Kerry/Klinton '04 (Sore/Loserman redux))
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To: evets
Yoda - tanned...rested...and dressed to kill.
902 posted on 02/17/2004 8:01:39 AM PST by Jim Cane
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To: Chris Talk
Have been wondering . . . do you have any refs for the part about the ET's insisting on the homosexual, abortion etc. changes in our society? I hadn't come across that. I'd seen the Communist plans from several decades ago for such things--in my univ library job--but not the UFO's.

abebooks.com is a great resource, btw.

Thanks.
903 posted on 02/17/2004 8:05:43 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Jim Cane; Chris Talk
Thanks much for this.

Quite so.

BTW, I'd long felt that it was the UN Sec Gen in NYC's case but I'd never read that.

What was the famous ongoing case with the seriously dedicated Christian. . . . the Betty Andraeson Affair, I think it was. Reportedly she was a very serious evangelical, perhaps even Charismatic type Christian. Yet her 'travels' and interactions with ET's were at least as incredible as anyone else's. Have always had questions about why God would allow such. Or was her Christianity inaccurately characterized.

Never feel I've found out to my satisfaction.
904 posted on 02/17/2004 8:26:20 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Quix
As with nearly everything I have posted on this subject, specific detailed one-place sourcing is difficult, and IMHO the govt has deliberately made it so.

Nevertheless, with regard to Abortion, many references exist all over the UFO literature, and obviously the aliens demanded this, and are getting a large amount of human fetal tissue as part of their deals with govt.

I do not believe I have ever seen anything alleging that the Homosexualist thing is directly alien-induced... indeed, I have myself never seen an abduction report [out of thousands I have seen] where a homosexual man was said to be taken, though of course that might be left out of the report, and John Mack may well have some islolated instance of that in his files since has done so much work around Boston's gay community. IMO male gays are avoided by the aliens.

Yet as you know, the files are FULL of lesbian cases, some of the most famous cases of the 80s and 90s were of lesbians, and these reports often go to great lengths to TELL you that they are lesbian, living with their female lover, sharing a farm in Maryland or the Poconos, or something like that. Of course, since so MANY more women were/are being taken... maybe this is to be expected? but I doubt it. Aliens IMO are taking lesbians. My impression is that perhaps MOST women over 30-35 when first taken are lesbian.

By the way, it seems the abduction phenom peaked in the mid nineties, and after about 98 it seems to have backed off, down to maybe not much more than half the peak rate by 2002/3... Maybe the aliens just have achieved their targeted number of abductees or implantees, or maybe they have so much human genetic material by now that they don't need to abduct as often, or maybe the govt told them to cool it and stick to the agreed numerical limits on this.

My own opinion is that our Govt is pushing the homosexual thing on its own as part of its massive effort to try to break down and destroy Christianity, and THAT of course, is heavily caused by the UFO phenom at second hand, because the Govt so believes that Christians would somehow freak at the presence or announcement of aliens here with us and the like...

Even as their own workers with the ETs reveal just the opposite, it is precisely those that DO have a serious background in the allegedly more cultic faiths such as LDS and SDA, together with Orthodox Jews... and what was that other group..."Appalachian fundy whites gone New Age" that are said to be recruited as Melchizedeks.

Aliens have often said they are surprised that Males and Females are considered by earthlings to be just one species, and examples have been given of other planets where different races of beings are on the same planet, and they will say "Just because you are co-operating to some degree...why, how can you think you are just one species in two forms? You are more different from each other than We are from the inhabitants of [some other planet] etc. They obviously think Men and Women are hardly the same kind of being at ALL, and their interest is overwhelmingly in Women.

Very possibly this latter explains the Government's massive shift to feminism and massive favoritism of women, they are in effect adopting the aliens' value system. Maybe this is why so far more women are being given good college educations, and why men especially white men, are being relegated to positions that are either very menial, or require great physical strength and exertion, exposure to the elements etc, and are being kept out of good colleges and professional schools.

Elite women with fabulous educations may just have to be lesbian, from now on, because no males will be permitted to be educated and civilized any more, they will all be just grease monkeys and plumbers and ditch diggers-- so the women will have no male they can talk to, the two species will really become totally separated which is what the aliens think would make sense, they are baffled beyond belief when they find M paired off with F, you get the picture.

I think this is where we came in.
905 posted on 02/17/2004 8:39:45 AM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: Quix
I would not consider Betty to be an seriously intelligent exponent of the Christian faith.

Married to a Finnish husband who was always gone working to support her and her 7 children, she turned to local low-income Pentecostalist church for support and companionship, but her degree of devoutness and intelligent commitment there was seriously overstated IMHO by the writers and investigators,

because she lived in...drum roll...MASSACHUSETTS, and the leftist secularists probably considered they had more in common with the ALIENS, than with anyone who could even toy with such a faith. IMHO Betty's fling with the Pentys was mostly over by the time the aliens arrived.
906 posted on 02/17/2004 8:43:09 AM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: Quix
As you know it is widely alleged that it was JIMMY CARTER who was the person who was involved in the NY thing...

or that, if Perez de Cuellar [Ven.] IS the person described in the book, that Carter had a not dissimilar experience in NYC around 3 AM late that same Nov, or was it already turned to Dec technically, the night after Nov 30? ANyway it was the same night the aliens crashed out there in the great S bay off Long Island. I have even forgotten what year, was it 1999? When did the TWA flight crash on its way out to Paris, right near E Long Is too?

Whatever Perez may have seen, I think Carter saw as much or more, put it that way. I have heard hearsay evidence on that personally.
907 posted on 02/17/2004 8:55:02 AM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: Chris Talk
THANKS.

Sounds accurate or likely accurate enough to me.

908 posted on 02/17/2004 9:03:45 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Chris Talk
Yes, yes, I think it very possible that the high level statesman described in the book [Witnessed, by Budd Hopkins] is a carefully crafted composite of both Perez AND Carter!

I can't imagine the aloof aristocrat Perez telling an English-speaking Italian-descended tenement boy in NYC that he was "yore Pappy" can you. Sounds more like Carter.
909 posted on 02/17/2004 9:05:37 AM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: Quix; Chris Talk
I found this article at http://www.coasttocoastam.com

I thought it might be of interest.

The document needs Adobe Acrobat Reader to be viewed.

Do you have any comments/reactions?



March 30, 2002

Q Status Alert!
Top Eyes Only!

Intelligence Briefing

Not To Be Released To Outside Agencies, Departments, Executive, Legislative Or Judicial Branches Without Proper Internal Authorization

________________________________________________

This agency announces that the aging code has been permanently broken making Biological Immortality a certainty. Please note that this is not a future event, and the data has been proven conclusively at this time through scientific testing.

Clarification: Biological/Physical Immortality, or the problem of death and dying, has been conquered permanently. The Human Genome Project under the direction of several Intelligence Community Agencies, TRINE, UMBRA, SACRED, JEHOVAH, MAJESTIC, ZODIAC, SPIRITUAL, ENVIRONMENT and MEDEA, has conquered mortal/physical death.

Data: Using information recently disseminated from the former USSR, which this agency and others have been working with on various UFO/Extraterrestrial projects (including other countries with filed activity,) this agency received conclusive information on tested data concerning Biological Immortality.

Extraterrestrial data received as far back as 1952 yielded the following conclusive information:

1) All physical animal and/or human beings are in actuality (for lack of a better word) spirits attached to a human/flesh container. Conclusive testing on animal and/or human subjects shows this can now be positively identified and proven.

2) There is a physical/mental mechanism which prevents this data from becoming too closely and easily detected. Distortions of the data occur when mentally observed more closely. An example of this would be the common idea that human beings are made of flesh and have a soul. The correct data would be human beings are a spirit and attached to a body of flesh.

3) It is because of this mental/physical distortion that those reading this briefing will have a hard time fully comprehending it, and the magnitude of the information contained within. Studies show when something is unclear or not understandable, that repeated reading of the same material can and will clear up any misunderstandings. It will take several readings by each individual for this information to become clarified.

4) Triggers to this negative mental mechanism which create the distortion are linked directly to “fundamentalist” world religions as belief systems. The more fundamentalist the belief, the more strongly this mechanism is activated.

5) Fundamentalism is hereby defined as a strict and literal interpretation of holy books and scriptures found in all major world religions.

6) The trigger is not completely set in motion with non-fundamentalist religions. The mechanism does have some effect with all religions.

7) Religions that promote an afterlife which is better than present Earth life have the strongest activation trigger. This then links to a secondary trigger which promotes quicker aging. This is due to the presumed fact, on the part of the human subject, that death is preferable to living and directly connected to thinking the afterlife will be beyond any pleasure current life can offer.

8) These mechanisms also contain a doomsday effect. They bring into motion worldwide but man-made cataclysms through the above stated “collective unconscious triggers” (Parts A and B). Every human being has these triggers. They are intensely activated as aging continues, since as old age and physical death nears religious concepts become more important to the populace.

9) Because of mental distortion (mentioned in item 2), individual humans under the effect of the triggers think a higher power or being, mostly referred to as God, directs these cataclysmic events (the doomsday effect.) It is “believed” on the part of the human subjects that God will destroy their particular religion’s enemies and usher in a better world for members of their same religion or sect. This is true of all people affected by these mental triggers, no matter what their religion.

IMPORTANT:

A) THE “BELIEF” THAT GOD DIRECTS THESE EVENTS IS INCORRECT.

B) THESE EVENTS ARE MAN-MADE THROUGH SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY TAILORED TO EACH INDIVIDUAL RELIGION AND IT’S INTERPRETATION OF END OF THE WORLD EVENTS BY INDIVIDUALS.

C) THESE INDIVIDUALS THEN WORK EITHER ALONE OR IN CONCERT WITH EACH OTHER (UNKNOWINGLY THROUGH THE TRIGGER MECHANISMS DESCRIBED) TO BRING ABOUT PLANETARY SELF-DESTRUCTION AND THE END OF THE HUMAN RACE.

D) IT IS THE INTERPRETATION AND CARRYING OUT OF THESE ACTIONS BY HUMANS, WHICH IS CAUSING THE DOOMSDAY EFFECTS TO OCCUR.

E) MAN IS CAUSING AND FULFILLING THESE ACTIONS AND SCENARIOS, NOT GOD IN IT’S MANY INTERPRETATIONS BY MANY DIFFERENT FAITHS.

The Only Effect These Triggers Have Is The Total Destruction Of The Entire Human Race Through An End Of The World Scenario With Escalating Terrorism And Extensive Nuclear And Biological World War Becoming A Certainty.

10) It is unclear at this time, how these mechanisms were originally transferred to the human populace, although there are various theories. It is only clear that items 1-9 are true and proven.

SOLUTIONS: Current Data Since February 2002:

1) NASA has been successfully coordinated under various cover stories, but behind the scenes planetary exploration of our solar system is “High Priority ‘Class A’ Status” due to the effect of the trigger mechanisms being in full effect since Sept. 11, 2001. The computer matrixes used by this bureau, and those of the other coordinating worldwide intelligence agencies, indicate with 99.99% accuracy that since 9/11 extinction of the human race is imminent unless other planets are colonized quickly, and/or numerous artificial space stations are created and used. The information contained within previous briefings leading to the “High Priority ‘Class A’ Status” is on a “Need To Know” basis.

2) Most importantly, the BI Project (Biological Immortality Project) has been completed. The completion of this project was a necessary step due to the amount of time it takes for interplanetary travel to outreaching star systems that have planets which can sustain life and have similar eco-systems to Earth. Given enough time, our technological advancements under the direction of ET’s would have been sufficient for interplanetary travel without BI. Due to the shortage of time, BI was an easier project to complete with the information gleaned from the relatively new Human Genome Project.

3) We are requesting at this time a full list of those who must be “immediately” rescued from the current “trigger” situations underway planet wide. Those to be contacted must be of sound scientific mind and body, as well as clear of any religious affiliation that would allow the triggers (virus’) to continue once outside home planet range. After top-level personnel are transported, other parts of humanity will be salvaged as time allows.

4) The Worldwide Intelligence Community’s plan isn’t that any part of the human race should be lost, but instead the best be saved first. Projects are underway to implement this protocol as quickly and fairly as possible.

5) While it is understood that BI for the entire human race is a huge undertaking, it is also noted through the applied “problem/solution matrix” that once BI is implemented the “triggers” will cease to function, thus ending the majority of Earth conflict and war. The matrix continues by stating that not ALL conflict will end, but will become manageable by applying workable solutions.

6) The matrix calculates that BI will have far reaching effects for planetary human salvation. Once everyone possible has obtained BI successfully, worldwide peace will more easily be achieved, environmental, food and energy concerns will be handled, and afterwards the human race will be able to return to Earth if desired.

7) The matrix shows that those who do not opt for BI will cease to be part of the problem in due time, since BI is a prerequisite for planetary colonization/escape, and the “trigger mechanisms” will simply carry themselves to completion thus cleansing the virus and allowing planetary re-booting.

8) Those with “trigger mechanisms” will be given the opportunity to pursue BI, but only after the “triggers” have been eliminated from their personal equation. Scientific processes will be in place shortly to remove those triggers. This bureau, or any other worldwide intelligence unit, will not force these processes or removal of triggers on anybody.

9) Since these triggers are intimately connected with personal religious beliefs, care will be taken to not violate the protections given to religion under the US Constitution or similar protective documents and laws worldwide in other countries.

10) The entire plan stated above must be executed within a 10 to 50 year timeline starting from the date of this briefing. The survival rate for the human race decreases exponentially every year after the first 10 until the 50th year is reached resulting in escalating and more insurmountable problems, which would make completion/escape near impossible.

11) NASA is to be given appropriate funding for their part of the project. Bypassing normal channels for funding will be used to expedite the process.

12) The Human Genome Project will receive continued funding as agreed. Bypassing normal channels for funding will be used to expedite the process.

13) All phases of this project are to be put into effect IMMEDIATELY! Bypassing normal channels for funding and strategy implementation will be used to expedite the process.

14) The acting President Of The United States, along with other country leaders (US and others) will form their own cover stories concerning space exploration after they become briefed as to the seriousness of this information and the outcome of the scenario if action is not taken to expedite BI and colonization.

End Briefing.

910 posted on 02/17/2004 9:48:52 AM PST by Momaw Nadon (Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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To: Quix
I'm not sure I know how to do that, Quix. I haven't done much article posting. I probably wouldn't get any different response, Quix (smile). Maryxxx
911 posted on 02/17/2004 10:26:29 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD is STILL in control, even if Bush loses in 2004!)
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To: Marysecretary
Not an original article post.

Just paste it in to a post like this one I'm replying to.

But in one of the Bin Laden threads.

And you have a much more respected personna hereon than I!!!
912 posted on 02/17/2004 10:32:53 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Momaw Nadon; Chris Talk; All
Does anyone else feel in their gut that this

EITHER IS

or

IS CLOSELY CONNECTED WITH the Biblical end times

GREAT DECEPTION spoken of in

Matthew 24
24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible.

???

It is such a tidy satanic set of dellusions, IMHO.
913 posted on 02/17/2004 11:03:24 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Chris Talk
Fascinating and informative. Thanks.

I had not come across the different species thing.

It is interesting to me that the goddess cult has been around in various forms for a very long time.

And while God, especially through Christ has brought women higher than ever, He has been seemingly clear about masculinity as well. And, cultures which have blurred the two have not survived very long afterwards.
914 posted on 02/17/2004 11:57:27 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Chris Talk
Those perspectives parallel feelings I had reading her books. But I didn't have data to back up the feelings.

Thanks.
915 posted on 02/17/2004 12:06:19 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Chris Talk
Interesting. I never had any significant data one way or the other. I think I'd come across faint whiffs about Carter and the Venez. de Cuiellar sp? But I had nothing to really form a conclusion on. Even my feelings about the UN chief were not very strong.

Thanks.
916 posted on 02/17/2004 12:08:40 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Momaw Nadon
A Top Secret article on the internet!!??
917 posted on 02/17/2004 1:20:38 PM PST by stuartcr
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To: Quix
In posting what is at 905, I knew I was running the risk that some would suppose that to be my own personal view or opinion.

No, I don't mean to imply any more than is there on the page-- this reflects typical alien communication to those abductees that they deigned to communicate with, perhaps the more inquiring and intelligent minds.

My gut feel is that this is all disinformation, that the beings are evil or at best coldly indifferent, and that yes, as you say, all these things show we are not merely in the End Times= Last Days= [Heb. akhreet ha-yamim], but in the Final Generation, the time of Jacob's Trouble [Jeremiah c 30; Luke c21, also 17; Matt 24-26 etc.]
918 posted on 02/17/2004 4:59:08 PM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: stuartcr
It would not be the first . . .

either authentic or hoaxed.
919 posted on 02/17/2004 5:09:12 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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As I implied in my reply to the doc,

I don't know that it makes a huge difference whether it is authentic or not.

If it is authentic, then the battle lines are more clearly known earlier.

If it is not authentic, SOMETHING AKIN TO IT

WILL

BE ALONG SOONER THAN LATER.

Prayer is in order. Prayers in the prayer bank are in order. Preparing hearts and minds by moving as close to God as possible . . . highly in order.

AS Chris Talk notes, times are a changin' and history ain't gonna be as it has historically been in our time . . . ever again.

Deal with it.

Just deal with it wisely.
920 posted on 02/17/2004 5:12:08 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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