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GOP Says It Found 300 Illegal Votes
Seattle Times ^ | 1/27/5 | David Postman

Posted on 01/27/2005 10:21:21 AM PST by SopranoBush

TUKWILA — The state Republican Party said in court papers filed yesterday that it has found 300 illegal votes and more than 400 that can't be verified in the governor's election.

With Christine Gregoire winning the governor's race by 129 votes, Republican Party Chairman Chris Vance says he now has found far more than enough evidence to persuade a judge to nullify the election and call for a rematch between Gregoire and Republican Dino Rossi.

Lawyers and Republican staffers are continuing to look county by county for votes cast by felons, in the name of dead people or by people who voted more than once, casting second votes either in other counties or other states.

"I expect this number to literally grow every day," Vance said.

Democrats are unconcerned. Their attorneys have argued that Republicans should have challenged improperly registered voters before the election.

Republicans have identified 240 felons who voted illegally. Party workers have been comparing the state's criminal-history database from the State Patrol to a list of voters kept by the Office of the Secretary of State.

The bulk of those are in King County. Vance said there appears to be so many felons who voted in the county that "we will probably never get to the bottom of this list."

He also said the party has identified 44 votes cast under the name of dead people, 10 voters who voted twice in the state and six who voted here and in another state.

Vance claimed the Republicans had found 737 illegal votes, but 437 of those are mishandled provisional ballots. Those ballots were supposed to be kept separate on Election Day but instead were put in counting machines without being verified. The party has not released the names of the people they say cast illegal votes — such as felons and double voters — but it will have to do that before a trial begins.

Yesterday, Republican lawyers filed their responses to Democratic Party motions to have the case dismissed. Republicans dispute the Democrats' arguments that the Legislature, not the court, should hear the dispute and that the court doesn't have authority to call for a new election.

Republicans also argue that they don't need to show which candidate got the illegal votes, only that there were enough to cloud the results.

But Democratic Party spokeswoman Kirstin Brost said, "There's no proof that Dino Rossi won the election, and that's what you need to show."

David Postman: 360-943-9882 or dpostman@seattletimes.com


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: acorn; bastards; chrisgregoire; christinegregoire; democratscheat; demorats; dieandvote; dinorossi; dirtyrats; electionfraud; fraud; gregoire; gregore; howtostealanelection; rats; rossi; themostcorruptstate; votefraud; voterfraud
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To: SopranoBush

WA PING!


2 posted on 01/27/2005 10:22:52 AM PST by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: SopranoBush

>>But Democratic Party spokeswoman Kirstin Brost said, "There's no proof that Dino Rossi won the election, and that's what you need to show."<<

Um, she is quite incorrect in that statement.

But it will definitely be shown in the re-vote.


3 posted on 01/27/2005 10:23:46 AM PST by RobRoy (I like you. You remind me of myself when I was young and stupid.)
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To: SopranoBush

very interesting... CALL the ACLU !! I'm sure they will HELP us NOW...


4 posted on 01/27/2005 10:24:13 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: SopranoBush; backhoe

Vote fraud index ping!


5 posted on 01/27/2005 10:25:04 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Click on my name to see what readers have said about my Christian novels!)
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To: SopranoBush

Now who said that it was foolish to fight in Washington? Here's some salt for that crow.


6 posted on 01/27/2005 10:25:16 AM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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To: SopranoBush

Old news. Let's move on. She won. Forget it. Move on. A new day dawning here in WA state. A big, red, communist one!


7 posted on 01/27/2005 10:27:23 AM PST by RetiredArmy (The Democratic Party would make Uncle Joe Stalin Proud!)
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To: steveegg
Now who said that it was foolish to fight in Washington?

The list is probably longer than the illegal voter list, actually. Plenty of loudmouths in other states who, while unaffected by our election, felt free to tell us to bend over and take it...

8 posted on 01/27/2005 10:28:39 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; Libertina; Publius; CyberCowboy777

Ping!


9 posted on 01/27/2005 10:29:22 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass)
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To: SopranoBush

"Republicans have identified 240 felons who voted illegally. Party workers have been comparing the state's criminal-history database from the State Patrol to a list of voters kept by the Office of the Secretary of State."

"The bulk of those are in King County. Vance said there appears to be so many felons who voted in the county that "we will probably never get to the bottom of this list."

"He also said the party has identified 44 votes cast under the name of dead people, 10 voters who voted twice in the state and six who voted here and in another state."

The rats in most states are unable to win an election without the dead voting, felons voting, double dipping voters and those voting in two or more states.

Congress needs to make voter fraud in a federal election and act of terrorism with big fines, jail sentences and loss of citizenship in major incidences along with seizure of personal property and real estate of those who are guilty of voter fraud.


10 posted on 01/27/2005 10:30:38 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a weapon of mass disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
The list is probably longer than the illegal voter list, actually.

I'll take some action on that (I'm confident that the illegal voter list is in the tens of thousands).

11 posted on 01/27/2005 10:30:45 AM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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To: SopranoBush

>> But Democratic Party spokeswoman Kirstin Brost said, "There's no proof that Dino Rossi won the election, and that's what you need to show." <<

Wow. Shocking defensiveness: Not "we won the election" but "there's no proof that the other guy won."


12 posted on 01/27/2005 10:31:00 AM PST by dangus
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To: RetiredArmy

"A big, red, communist one!"

Or, in our new color scheme, a big BLUE communist one.


13 posted on 01/27/2005 10:33:07 AM PST by Buck W. (How can anyone who works for a living vote democrat?)
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To: SopranoBush
When dealing with Democrats, one idea is essential to under-
stand: Democrats want power and will commit any act to get it.
If 3000 or 30,000 fraudulent ballots were discovered and all were marked with the name of the Democratic nominee, Democrats would not care as long as their candidate won.
14 posted on 01/27/2005 10:33:37 AM PST by quadrant
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To: Buck W.
Hey! Here in Ukraine County we have our own statute of Comrade Lenin!!!! Right out for everyone to worship!!
15 posted on 01/27/2005 10:36:39 AM PST by RetiredArmy (The Democratic Party would make Uncle Joe Stalin Proud!)
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To: SopranoBush
"Democrats are unconcerned."

Can't you just hear the conversation that must have taken place among top Washington-State Democrats when news of this new development broke??::

"Hey, boys, good job. So what if the Republicans have found 300 Illegal Votes?? They can find 100,000 illegal votes, and it still won't matter. We got what we wanted, so screw the voters of Washington State!"

16 posted on 01/27/2005 10:36:48 AM PST by chs68
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To: SopranoBush

When I think of the brave people in this country who gave their lives for Democracy, when I think of the voters in Afganistan and Iraq who risk their lives to vote--how sweet is this thing called Democracy. No more can some mad dictator abuse his people and expect to be Unfortunately, Gregore is no less than a dictator herself, ursurping the will of the people. She no longer deserves the title of Democrat.


17 posted on 01/27/2005 10:37:24 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: SopranoBush
Democrats are unconcerned. Their attorneys have argued that Republicans should have challenged improperly registered voters before the election.

Now tell me exactly just how that could have possibly been done? Particularly since you have late registration up to 15 days prior to the election in Washington? It takes that long just to get the books updated, and they expect such a task to be done - statewide and for every voter - before the election?

Gee, if that's the standard operating procedure, then let's see the Democrats own registration challenge list. They must have already done this, right?

18 posted on 01/27/2005 10:41:19 AM PST by alancarp (When does it cease to be "Freedom of the Press" and become outright SEDITION?)
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To: RobRoy
Now who said this?...
"What right is more important than the right to vote?
What position is stronger than defending the right of voters to be heard?"


That's right! The same dirty RAT...
Kirstin Brost
Communications Director
Washington State Democrats
206-281-9124

19 posted on 01/27/2005 10:43:37 AM PST by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: SopranoBush

Chicago style politics are spreading everywhere that the Dims ae losing.


20 posted on 01/27/2005 10:45:02 AM PST by hgro
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To: SopranoBush

21 posted on 01/27/2005 10:46:16 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: RobRoy
But Democratic Party spokeswoman Kirstin Brost said, "There's no proof that Dino Rossi won the election, and that's what you need to show."

She's right! All Rossi did was win the first count, and then the second count by machine, but when humans started counting, somehow he lost! Thank God for humans! More accurate than machines. Remember that on your next ATM visit!

22 posted on 01/27/2005 10:47:08 AM PST by Bommer
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To: Grampa Dave

Like the way your mind works.

Illegal voting does indeed disenfranchise the legal voter. This needs to be a major issue in the next election. Considering that the MSM only addresses fictional disenfranchising, it is up to us to keep voter fraud on the front page of the web.


23 posted on 01/27/2005 10:48:09 AM PST by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: dangus
But Democratic Party spokeswoman Kirstin Brost said, "There's no proof that Dino Rossi won the election, and that's what you need to show."

Good to see the Democrats going to the Bart Simpson defense: "I didn't do it, no one saw me do it, there's no way you can prove anything!"

24 posted on 01/27/2005 10:49:02 AM PST by michaelt
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To: SopranoBush
Voter fraud - whould'a thunk it.....

See these threads as well.

Republicans allege 737 illegal votes in governor's election

GOP: Felons, dead people voted in Wash.

***BREAKING*** Task Force to Probe Milwaukee Election [Local and FEDS!]

Washington State - Vote fraud counts

25 posted on 01/27/2005 10:52:21 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (.drawkcab si enilgat yM !!PLEH)
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To: HonestConservative

Illegal voters cancel our votes.

If those illegal voters elect an mayor, governor, senator or president, that to me is an act of treason and terrorism. Then, our legal government and elected officials have been replaced by illegal officials in massive acts of treason/terrorism via the illegal votes.


26 posted on 01/27/2005 10:56:27 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a weapon of mass disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Blue is the color of communism now.


27 posted on 01/27/2005 10:58:24 AM PST by Arkie2
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To: SopranoBush

Democrats opened this can of worms in 2000...and no election will ever be the same again. What amazes me is that they actually decided to go this route when they (have to) know that the majority of voter-fraud in this country is perpetrated by their own party.

While the Democrats hold these grand hearings and have these great anecdotal stories of malfiescence, it is their party faithful who are the one's actually being caught in substantive acts of fraud and abuse.

The hypocrisy of listening to the self-righteous indignation of Democrats because some people may have had to stand in long lines is a joke. Their anecdotal stories of inconvenience don't compare to the crimes that have been committed by Democrats...who have slashed the tires of Republican vehicles, exchanged crack cocaine for new voter registrations, committed physical violence and intimidation on campaign workers or found last-minute ballots "after" the Republican had won.

Combined with the usual tactics of voter-fraud...registering and counting dead people, felons, multiple-voting, etc...the Democrats have operated like a criminal enterprise for decades. I can only imagine what Republican victories would look like if not for this fraud.

This is exactly why Democrats are so outraged: Even with all their high-profile support and manipulation, they are still getting their arses kicked. They are in scorched-Earth mode because at this point they have nothing to lose.


28 posted on 01/27/2005 10:59:11 AM PST by cwb
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To: Arkie2
Better blue than dead. Naw, don't sound right. The lefties like the better red than dead saying. :^)
29 posted on 01/27/2005 10:59:20 AM PST by RetiredArmy (The Democratic Party would make Uncle Joe Stalin Proud!)
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To: SopranoBush
But Democratic Party spokeswoman Kirstin Brost said, "There's no proof that Dino Rossi won the election, and that's what you need to show."

WRONGO. They just need to show enough fraud was there that the election was questionable. Personally, I think it looks good for a new election, unless the courts there are corrupt.

30 posted on 01/27/2005 11:01:05 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: SopranoBush

Deep down even the RAT mouthpiece knows that Queen Gregoire is a fraud...



"Seconds before Gregoire was introduced as "Her Excellency, Governor Christine Gregoire," Kirstin Brost felt a rush of panic.

"I started to get nervous the fire alarm would get pulled," said Brost, spokeswoman for the state Democratic Party. After a year of campaigning and 10 weeks of postelection turmoil, Brost could hardly believe it was actually happening. "

31 posted on 01/27/2005 11:02:11 AM PST by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: SopranoBush

ping


32 posted on 01/27/2005 11:03:36 AM PST by granite (Why Are We In Iraq? Read my profile.)
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To: alancarp
Their attorneys have argued that Republicans should have challenged improperly registered voters before the election.

Now tell me exactly just how that could have possibly been done?

Provisional ballots. Those were for voters whose registrations were challenged on election day. Some 400 of them were tabulated without verification.

-PJ

33 posted on 01/27/2005 11:03:45 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Better blue than true?

Better blued than tattooed?

Better blue than red like you?

Better blue with a clue?

You're right, none of those has the ring of "better red than dead."


34 posted on 01/27/2005 11:04:14 AM PST by Arkie2
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To: Political Junkie Too

Irrespective of that: the assumption (from the Party of Fraud) is that the parties are somehow required to verify EVERY VOTER. That's aside from this new and wonderful vote fraud source called provisional balloting.


35 posted on 01/27/2005 11:06:43 AM PST by alancarp (When does it cease to be "Freedom of the Press" and become outright SEDITION?)
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To: cwb
Democrats...who have slashed the tires of Republican vehicles, exchanged crack cocaine for new voter registrations, committed physical violence and intimidation on campaign workers or found last-minute ballots "after" the Republican had won.

Sounds like strong grounds for a full Federal RICO investigation.

36 posted on 01/27/2005 11:06:59 AM PST by EricT. (Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
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To: alancarp
It's defensiveness on the part of the Democrats. The Secretary of State and the county elections boards are charged with verifying voters, and they know it. If the parties were responsible for verifying voters, then the smaller Greens, Libertarians, and unaffiliated independents would never have the resources to do this.

-PJ

37 posted on 01/27/2005 11:14:47 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: SopranoBush

My 82 yo GOP faithful aunt in Seattle has been disenfranchised!


38 posted on 01/27/2005 11:17:07 AM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: alancarp
Posted on Sun, Aug. 29, 2004

"Political people love the absentee voter," said Kirstin Brost, of the state Democratic Party in Washington state, where 54 percent of votes in 2000 were cast by absentee ballot. "They're easier to track, and if someone is absentee, I've got three weeks to get them to vote, instead of just one day." Washington state, where voters can start voting on Oct. 13, permits voters to become permanent absentee voters.

In Washington, party workers like Brost seek to "convert" voters from Election Day voters to absentee voters. Then they can easily determine from county auditors' lists which voters' ballots have been received and which voters need another phone call.


THE RATS PLAN FROM THE RATS MOUTH
39 posted on 01/27/2005 11:20:29 AM PST by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: SopranoBush

Can't help but see the irony. The Dems found "legal" votes. Republicans found "illegal" votes.


40 posted on 01/27/2005 11:23:37 AM PST by IamConservative (To worry is to misuse your imagination.)
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To: dangus

Where is proof that either one of them won?


41 posted on 01/27/2005 11:26:41 AM PST by txrangerette
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To: SopranoBush

Read this in the paper this a.m. Here's to righting a horrible wrong.


42 posted on 01/27/2005 11:27:59 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: SopranoBush

CALL THE STATE DEMOCRATS AND TELL THEM YOU WANT TO WIN FAIR AND SQUARE... SUPPORT A RE-VOTE !!


Send us an e-mail

Mailing Address
Washington State Democratic Central Committee
PO Box 4027
616 First Avenue, Suite 300
Seattle WA 98194



Telephone 206 583 0664
Fax 206 583 0301
Email info@wa-democrats.org


Elected Officers
Paul Berendt, State Party Chair | 206 583 0664
Ya-Yue Van, State Party Vice-Chair
Habib M. Habib, State Party Treasurer
Sharon Mast, State Party Secretary



Staff
Bertha McDaniel, Office Manager | 206 583 0664 x10
Kiri Jacobsen, Office Assistant | 206 583 0664 x10
Annette Anderson, Chief of Staff | 206 583 0664 x20
Tille Gallagher, Accounting Specialist | 206 583 0664 x25
Jaxon Ravens, Convention Consultant | 206 583 0664 x18
Heather Woodruff, Development Director | 206 583 0664 x14
Jeremy Sher, Technology Director | 206 583 0664 x17
Kelly Wright, Technology Coordinator | 206 583 0664 x19
Misty Shock, Technology Staff | 206 583 0664 x15
Mark Saporito, Web Coordinator | 206 583 0664 x22
Bruce Stotler, Volunteer | 206 583 0664 x10

Contact The Recount Office!

Contact our recount headquarters at 206-328-2969.


43 posted on 01/27/2005 11:28:56 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: JennieOsborne; /\XABN584; 3D-JOY; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; 1Peter2:16; ...

BTTT !


44 posted on 01/27/2005 11:29:52 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: davidosborne

BTTT!!!!!!


45 posted on 01/27/2005 11:30:54 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: SopranoBush
What's disturbing about all of this is that there is no provision in state law for a "re-do" of the election, from what I understand. I have a problem with getting the court to make up such a provision, without the clear legal authority to do so. And, sadly, Gregoire isn't the first politician in American history who cheated her way into office.

Perhaps what the GOP should do in Washington is force a re-vote by forcing a recall election of current acting-Governor Gregoire.

46 posted on 01/27/2005 11:35:28 AM PST by My2Cents ("I look to two things: First to God and then to Fox News.")
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To: My2Cents
Perhaps what the GOP should do in Washington is force a re-vote by forcing a recall election of current acting-Governor Gregoire.

GOOD POINT

47 posted on 01/27/2005 11:37:43 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: Rockitz
Kirstin Brost LIES AGAIN.. "What we are looking for is a standard that will hold statewide, so every legal vote is counted," said Kirstin Brost, spokeswoman for the state Democrats.

Her idea of counting legal votes..

-186 felons in King County
-54 felons from elsewhere in the state
-44 people who died before absentee ballots were mailed
-10 who voted twice in Washington state
-6 who voted in Washington and another state
-437 provisional ballots that were illegally fed directly into voting machines, as reported by King, Pierce and Stevens counties.
48 posted on 01/27/2005 11:39:06 AM PST by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: 1Old Pro

If DemRats are ruled against in court, won't they simply appeal the ruling until it gets to the 9th Circus? We all know what will happen there.


49 posted on 01/27/2005 11:43:38 AM PST by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: SopranoBush
If only Jimmah Carter could have been there, it would all be okay
(okay if you're a Democrat, dictator, or tyrant trying to steal an election that is).

50 posted on 01/27/2005 11:47:20 AM PST by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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