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Is Georgia's Immigration Bill a Step Forward or Back?
Time ^ | Apr. 19, 2006 | GREG FULTON

Posted on 04/22/2006 5:27:14 PM PDT by neverdem

While Washington continues to debate the hot-button issue, states are starting to take the matter of undocumented immigrants into their own hands.

While the Senate prepares to return to the thorny issue of immigration reform next week, states are fast becoming a major battleground over the divisive issue. Earlier this week, just as Arizona's Democratic Governor Janet Napolitano vetoed a bill that would have increased criminal penalties and arrest powers over illegal immigrants, Georgia's governor, Republican Sonny Perdue, signed into law one of the nation's toughest. It includes provisions requiring residents who are seeking state social welfare benefits to prove their legal status, as well as mandating that the police check the legal status of everyone they arrest and alert federal authorities to any violations.

The Georgia bill was considered so draconian, in fact, that it quickly sparked a diplomatic war of words. On Tuesday, Mexico's President Vincente Fox declared that Georgia's law included "acts of discrimination" and "half measures insufficient to resolve the complex phenomenon of immigration between Mexico and the United States." The reaction in Georgia to Fox's comments was typical of the heightened rhetoric that has fueled the Act since it was introduced at the beginning of the year. "I would suggest the government of Mexico stop concerning themselves with what we do in Georgia and instead worry about their own corrupt government," replied state Sen. Chip Rogers (R-Woodstock).

Georgia's bill may be particularly tough, but it's only one of close to 370 immigrant-related bills proposed in 42 states across the U.S. this year. These include the Ohio Unity English Act, which would require all state and local government documents to be in English only, a Kansas bill that would dramatically reduce the amount of taxpayer money spent on social services for illegal immigrants, and a Maine proposal to require proof of citizenship in order to get a driver's license. Not all, however, are restrictive; a bill in Wyoming would increase educational opportunities for illegal immigrants. The reason for all this legislative activity isn't all that complicated. Says Ann Morse, program director for the National Conference of State Legislatures, "It's the confluence of the sizable numbers of unathorized immigrants, the effects of 911 and the perception that we can't control the borders — and of course the frustration that the federal government isn't doing anything."

In the middle of an election year, it's also not altogether surprising that Georgia's GOP governor signed the Security and Immigration Compliance Act. Even though the state continues to trend more Republican, Perdue faces a very real challenge this fall from Democratic Secretary of State Cathy Cox, and the law commanded broad public support in a state with an estimated 500,000 to 800,000 undocumented immigrants.

Still, as tough as the Georgia bill is, it did ultimately include some notable exceptions. Residents will not have to prove their status to receive emergency medical care, prenatal care and immunizations of children, though cynics say that was done solely in order to withstand court challenges. The Act also targets big business, forcing employers to prove employees are legal and providing for fines if found otherwise.

But that may not be enough for Tisha Tallmann, Southeast regional counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund. She says her organization is still considering a legal challenge to the Act, in part because immigrants, she says, contribute some $200 million to the annual tax base, and should not be denied public services that they help fund. "Instead of waiting for Congress," says Tallmann, "Georgia has decided to take matters into its own hands, signing into law a punitive bill that does nothing to solve this complex issue." Unless Washington can finally tackle that issue, more states will follow Georgia's lead in coming up with their own solutions, however flawed some may think they are.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: District of Columbia; US: Georgia; US: Kansas; US: Maine; US: Ohio; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderlist; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: neverdem
"As Arizona's Democratic Governor Janet Napolitano vetoed a bill that would have increased criminal penalties and arrest powers over illegal immigrants, Georgia's governor, Republican Sonny Perdue, signed into law one of the nation's toughest."
Vote Republican!
"Mexico's President Vincente Fox declared that Georgia's law included 'acts of discrimination' and 'half measures insufficient to resolve the complex phenomenon of immigration between Mexico and the United States.'"
Mexico's law is completely discriminatory and prevents immigration from the United States to Mexico.

21 posted on 04/22/2006 6:31:15 PM PDT by Savage Beast ( The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America. R.I.P., Todd Beamer.)
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To: neverdem
"...the state continues to trend more Republican..."

...and already one of the 10 most populous states in the Union, Georgia continues to grow by leaps and bounds and giant strides and massive influx of new residents!

I just returned from a trip to Georgia. Wealth, economic power, and population growth are everywhere! The money and growth are startling!

Everywhere you hear: "Where are all these people coming from? And where do they get all this money?"

A friend tells me: "I bought this place 5 1/2 years ago. Since then it has more than tripled in value. In the last 5 months, its value has increased by $100,000 a month! I know. I've had repeated offers to buy it."

As Greg Fulton observes: Georgia continues to trend more Republican!

As I observe: Georgia continues to grow bigger and bigger!

22 posted on 04/22/2006 6:56:59 PM PDT by Savage Beast ( The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America. R.I.P., Todd Beamer.)
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To: neverdem
"I would suggest the government of Mexico stop concerning themselves with what we do in Georgia and instead worry about their own corrupt government," replied state Sen. Chip Rogers (R-Woodstock).

I like this guy!

23 posted on 04/22/2006 6:57:30 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Protect American jobs. Don't hire illegals.)
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To: neverdem
"It includes provisions requiring residents who are seeking state social welfare benefits to prove their legal status, as well as mandating that the police check the legal status of everyone they arrest and alert federal authorities to any violations."

What's tough about that. That's a no brainer.

24 posted on 04/22/2006 6:59:12 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: BenLurkin
Divisive how?

Most laws are divisive. They cause friction between the law breakers and the law keepers.

25 posted on 04/22/2006 7:16:55 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: neverdem

If Fox disapproves, that's good enough for me. Go Sonny! I'm definitely glad that I voted for you and will do so again in November.


26 posted on 04/22/2006 7:17:59 PM PDT by Kellykoop
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To: georgia2006
I suspect Cathy Cox will do well in ATL...

I don't know about that. Taylor has Andrew Young's endorsement...that'll probably count for something among black Dems.

27 posted on 04/22/2006 7:19:39 PM PDT by Kellykoop
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To: neverdem

My note to the editors at time

Hello,
Time appears to have confused the nomenclature for immigrants. There are plenty (at least 6 million) patiently awaiting legal entry into the USA. They are IMMIGRANTS. There are many more who broke the law to get into this country. They are ILLEGAL ALIENS.
Illegals should not be allowed to "jump to the front of the line" at the expense of law abiding future citizens.
Thanks, Rohn

Suggest every editor at any publication be reminded about the difference.


28 posted on 04/22/2006 8:04:04 PM PDT by rohn (Vote for the liars, they promised us more!)
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To: cardinal4
AMEN!
Illegals not only cost the US in evaded taxes ($30 Billlion was one estimate I saw, but think it was high), they also cost in services ($35 Billion estimate, think that was low).
Please remind lawmakers that "legitimizing" illegals will not only encourage them to bring families into the country- a HUGE drain on the economy, it will encourage them to sue for the "taxes they pay" now. They claim to pay Social Security taxes on their bogus SSN numbers. What happens when a bunch of lawyers get together and attempt to reclaim that money?
BTW, the New York/Boston area had this debate years ago concerning Irish illegals. Not a factor now that the Irish economy is strong. At the time I was opposed to illegals, even though of Irish descent. Much of this is the fault of Senator Kennedy and his immigration reform bill about 30 years ago.
Although, I'd still rather have an English speaking (ok, with an accent), college educated, Irish man/woman as a new citizen than a non-English speaking, unskilled worker. Have met several college educated Irish that were waiting tables/bartending about 10 years ago. They wanted to live in the USA but were blocked by the "Kennedy quotas"
My $.02 worth,
Rohn
29 posted on 04/22/2006 8:24:17 PM PDT by rohn (Vote for the liars, they promised us more!)
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To: stopem

Just one more battle to be fought in the near future over States rights.


30 posted on 04/22/2006 8:31:51 PM PDT by Vote 4 Nixon (EAT...FISH...SLEEP...REDUX)
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To: neverdem

"Perdue faces a very real challenge this fall from Democratic Secretary of State Cathy Cox..."

Doesn't she have to defeat Mark Taylor first?

I'm already seeing commercials for Taylor (he's the big guy, who looks out for the little guy.)


31 posted on 04/22/2006 8:38:37 PM PDT by NapkinUser (http://www.vasquezforidaho.org/)
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To: neverdem
On Tuesday, Mexico's President Vincente Fox declared that Georgia's law included "acts of discrimination" and "half measures insufficient to resolve the complex phenomenon of immigration between Mexico and the United States.

Illegal immigration is not complex, and it's not a phenomenon. The Mexican government is intentionally encouraging its people to enter the United States illegally. It's high time to slap Mexico with a bill for reparations.

32 posted on 04/22/2006 8:44:57 PM PDT by Holden Magroin
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To: georgia2006

"I saw an SUV driven by a soccer mom with a GW Bush sticker on one side and Cathy Cox sticker on the other."

Wow, did we see the same SUV? Was it red? I saw an SUV on my way to work that had a Bush-Cheney bumper sticker and a Cathy Cox bumper sticker on it.


33 posted on 04/22/2006 8:45:26 PM PDT by NapkinUser (http://www.vasquezforidaho.org/)
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To: neverdem

Senor Presidente Fox,

Go to the Chihuahua desert.
Gather several cups of sand.
Pour this sand into the rear of your trousers.
Pound it home until you can taste it.

Georgia needs no advice or remonstrations from you.

Be glad we cannot enact mirror-mirror reciprocity of immigration laws with Mexico - your country's population would immediately swell by about a million irritated repatriated Mexican peons.

So: Be glad... and STFU.

King Prout,
Naturalized Georgian


34 posted on 04/22/2006 10:18:35 PM PDT by King Prout (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT.)
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To: King Prout

Your Royal Majesty, King Prout,

Please be advised:

1. Senor Presidente Fox should gather only the finest, sharp pointed Chihuahua Desert Sand.

2. Senor Presidente Fox should first soak said sand overnight in jalepeno juice, before pouring and pounding. This will "enhance the flavor"; and facilitate both ingress and egress of said sand.

3. Senor Presidente Fox should be offered a 3 for 1 deal, amounting to 3 armed illegal American emigrants for every illegal Mexican immigrant.

Long live The King!

Respectfully, etc....


35 posted on 04/22/2006 10:32:41 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

we jess duz whut we kin.


36 posted on 04/22/2006 10:36:00 PM PDT by King Prout (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT.)
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To: neverdem

"the perception that we can't control the borders"

Perception? Perception?

What perception? The fool making that remark, Ann Morse, acts like we have been tricked into believing our borders are wide open.

Millions upon millions of illegals in this country and with the promise of amnesty the flood gates are really wide open now.

That kind of remark makes my blood boil!


37 posted on 04/22/2006 10:39:51 PM PDT by Supernatural (When they come a wull staun ma groon, Staun ma groon al nae be afraid)
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To: sweetliberty

How are you doing? Haven't seen you posting for quite some time!


38 posted on 04/22/2006 10:44:01 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: neverdem
On Tuesday, Mexico's President Vincente Fox declared that Georgia's law included "acts of discrimination" and "half measures insufficient to resolve the complex phenomenon of immigration between Mexico and the United States."

I'm sure that Georgia's governor would love to tell Fox to go screw himself.

39 posted on 04/22/2006 10:44:36 PM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: HiJinx; JustPiper; NewRomeTacitus; Reagan Man; DumpsterDiver; kcvl; TigersEye; Gelato; Lurker; ...

Border Ping!


40 posted on 04/22/2006 10:45:14 PM PDT by TheLion
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