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Space Impact 'Saved Christianity'
BBC ^ | 6-23-2003 | David Whitehouse

Posted on 11/12/2006 10:29:21 PM PST by blam

Space impact 'saved Christianity'

By Dr David Whitehouse
BBC News Online science editor

Did a meteor over central Italy in AD 312 change the course of Roman and Christian history?

About the size of a football field: The impact crater left behind

A team of geologists believes it has found the incoming space rock's impact crater, and dating suggests its formation coincided with the celestial vision said to have converted a future Roman emperor to Christianity.

It was just before a decisive battle for control of Rome and the empire that Constantine saw a blazing light cross the sky and attributed his subsequent victory to divine help from a Christian God.

Constantine went on to consolidate his grip on power and ordered that persecution of Christians cease and their religion receive official status.

Civil war

In the fourth century AD, the fragmented Roman Empire was being further torn apart by civil war. Constantine and Maxentius were bitterly fighting to be the sole emperor.

Constantine was the son of the western emperor Constantius Chlorus. When he died in 306, his father's troops proclaimed Constantine emperor.

But in Rome, the favourite was Maxentius, son of Constantius' predecessor, Maximian.

With both men claiming the title, a conference was called in AD 308 that resulted in Maxentius being named as senior emperor along with Galerius, his father-in-law. Constantine was to be a Caesar, or junior emperor.

The situation was not a stable one, however, and by 312 the two men were at war.

Constantine overran Italy and faced Maxentius at the Milvian Bridge over the Tiber a few kilometres from Rome. Both knew it would be a decisive battle with Constantine's forces outnumbered.

'Conquer by this'

It was then that something strange happened. Eusebius - one of the Christian Church's early historians - relates the event in his Conversion of Constantine.

"...while he was thus praying with fervent entreaty, a most marvellous sign appeared to him from heaven, the account of which it might have been hard to believe had it been related by any other person.

"...about noon, when the day was already beginning to decline, he saw with his own eyes the trophy of a cross of light in the heavens, above the Sun, and bearing the inscription 'conquer by this'.

"At this sight he himself was struck with amazement, and his whole army also, which followed him on this expedition, and witnessed the miracle."

Spurred on by divine intervention, Constantine's army won the day and he gave homage to the God of the Christians whom he believed had helped him.

This was a time when Christianity was struggling. Support from the most powerful man in the empire allowed the emerging religious movement to flourish.

Like a nuclear blast

But what was the celestial event that converted Constantine and altered the course of history?

Jens Ormo, a Swedish geologist, and colleagues working in Italy believe Constantine witnessed a meteoroid impact.

Drill rig: Sampling the crater

The research team believes it has identified what remains of the impactor's crater.

It is the small, circular Cratere del Sirente in central Italy. It is clearly an impact crater, Ormo says, because its shape fits and it is also surrounded by numerous smaller, secondary craters, gouged out by ejected debris, as expected from impact models.

Radiocarbon dating puts the crater's formation at about the right time to have been witnessed by Constantine and there are magnetic anomalies detected around the secondary craters - possibly due to magnetic fragments from the meteorite.

According to Ormo, it would have struck the Earth with the force of a small nuclear bomb, perhaps a kiloton in yield. It would have looked like a nuclear blast, with a mushroom cloud and shockwaves.

It would have been quite an impressive sight and, if it really was what Constantine saw, could have turned the tide of the conflict.

But what would have happened if this chance event - perhaps as rare as once every few thousand years - had not occurred in Italy at that time?

Maxentius might have won the battle. Roman history would have been different and the struggling Christians might not have received state patronage.

The history of Christianity and the establishment of the popes in Rome might have been very different.


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1 posted on 11/12/2006 10:29:22 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Fascinating.


2 posted on 11/12/2006 10:30:59 PM PST by HelloooClareece (Support the CinC during WARTIME or get outta my way.)
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.


3 posted on 11/12/2006 10:31:07 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
And God's not going to use celestial mechanics to get his point across as needed? Ha ha. After all, look what he did to Sennacharib.

BTW I just picked up a new paperback edition of that book about comets by Baille (sp?).
4 posted on 11/12/2006 10:34:09 PM PST by aruanan
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5 posted on 11/12/2006 10:34:38 PM PST by blam
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
Thanks Blam. We've seen this one before, maybe it's an FR topic; also, I think there was a topic or just an article about a study which claimed this wasn't an impact crater. :')

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6 posted on 11/12/2006 10:35:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam
It really is the Noory Hour.
7 posted on 11/12/2006 10:36:43 PM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: aruanan
"BTW I just picked up a new paperback edition of that book about comets by Baille (sp?)."


8 posted on 11/12/2006 10:38:15 PM PST by blam
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http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39b91ca42b27.htm

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/714636/posts?page=52#52

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/931431/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1332192/posts?page=20#20

some duplicates:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/714636/posts?page=49#49

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/756422/posts?page=34#34


9 posted on 11/12/2006 10:40:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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just in case...

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10 posted on 11/12/2006 10:41:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1011346/posts?page=11#11


11 posted on 11/12/2006 10:42:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam

Cool.

Of course, scientists always look for the natural explanation and God is on record for using nature at times. Meteors are natural but you really have to wonder about meteors that explode with the inscription "Conquer by this".


12 posted on 11/12/2006 10:42:28 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: blam

Should we all pray towards it and go there, with a few of us dying in the stampede every year?


13 posted on 11/12/2006 10:42:32 PM PST by AmishDude (Libertarians didn't lose it for us. They're losers who work against what they claim to want.)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirente_crater

http://www.ees.lanl.gov/news/archive_apr_june_2006.shtml

http://www.americanscientist.org/template/AssetDetail/assetid/37224


14 posted on 11/12/2006 10:45:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: DannyTN

Disaster That Struck The Ancients

15 posted on 11/12/2006 10:48:03 PM PST by blam
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To: blam; ValerieUSA

Crater, now the Rose Hill Amphitheater, Henderson TX:

http://www.cratercraze.com/


16 posted on 11/12/2006 10:52:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Odessa Meteor Crater
A shower of meteaorites slammed into the Earth some 20,000 years ago, leaving a crater over 500 feet in diameter. exit I-20 at F.M. 1936(south) drive west on frontage road 3.4 miles till you see the sign.

17 posted on 11/12/2006 10:52:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam
"...about noon, when the day was already beginning to decline, he saw with his own eyes the trophy of a cross of light in the heavens, above the Sun, and bearing the inscription 'conquer by this'.

Meteors frequently bear inscriptions.

18 posted on 11/12/2006 10:55:25 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: DannyTN

And the meteor going in two directions and intesecting its path (a cross).


19 posted on 11/12/2006 10:56:40 PM PST by geopyg (If the carrot doesn't work, use the stick. Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv
At the Battle of Milvian Bridge October 28, 312, Constantine was successful mainly due to his superior military skills and the incompetence of the engineers used by Maxentius for construction of the temporary wooden bridge.

Constantine did not establish Christianity, although the Edict of Milan gave religious freedom. The god Sol Invictus, the Unconquered Sun, featured prominently on Constantinian coins and monuments in the years before and after the battle indicating that he kept several beliefs as a hedging strategy.

Constantine was responsible for switching the day of rest from Saturday (Sabbath) to Sunday, the first day of the week in the Jewish Calendar, as well as the day of the Resurrection, and the day which the Roman state had dedicated to Sol Invictus (hence Sun-day), the main rival religion to Christianity at the time, and of which Constantine was chief priest (pontifex maximus) until his death.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_I_and_Christianity

Many still erroneously believe today that the Edict established Christianity as the sole faith of Rome, a change which didn't take place until the early 390s, under Theodosius I.
20 posted on 11/12/2006 11:29:44 PM PST by AdmSmith
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