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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: flashbunny; KATIE-O

“disgusting, impotent Lemming Twit!!”

I like that one meself! ;)


3,641 posted on 04/22/2007 7:40:38 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: EternalVigilance
Agreed!

All I’ve seen so far is him admitting straight out that he’s lost the political and ideological debate.

Then common sense and reason tells me that he would naturally have to reverse his position. He's too smart to enter the race and do otherwise.
3,642 posted on 04/22/2007 7:40:42 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Jim Robinson

My, my, my. When you throw a party, you THROW A PARTY!

Guess I’d better increase my monthly to make up for our lost friends. ;^)


3,643 posted on 04/22/2007 7:40:58 PM PDT by tioga
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To: don-o

Yeah, I know, getting late, and I am allowing myself to get caught up in the emotions. Sorry for the misunderstanding.


3,644 posted on 04/22/2007 7:41:12 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..Doing real on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: Mom MD
but once a woman has felt another life moving inside her and has gone through the birth process, I can only say it is the blackest of evil to be pro choice.

Truth Bump

3,645 posted on 04/22/2007 7:41:34 PM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: rockrr

I’ve seen a lot happen. Maybe you should take a funnyman seriously when he says you should?


3,646 posted on 04/22/2007 7:41:41 PM PDT by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: Spiff

Spiff, I read what you wrote and I even watched the video. Never let it be said that I didn’t listen to my fellow FReepers. FReepers are on the ball.

But for crying out loud, in the first part as it relates to global warning, he is again doing what a good politician would do. Pay lip service to appease the whacko environmentalists and then do nothing other than promote free market solutions like Nuclear Power Plants, and ethanol subsidies to make up for the fact that it’s still 5x more expensive to produce ethanol than petroleum...but heck I’ll make an exception to my belief in free markets in this case if it means American midwestern farmers can become energy barons while the Saudi’s end up poor.

As far as this nanny state Rudy smoking ban, trans fat ban stuff is concerned, we have already had this conversation after pissant posted his hit piece trying to convince people that Rudy is a nanny stater.

Again, don’t get me wrong. If you want to vote against Rudy because he is a pro abortion, gun grabbing public serpent and make your case on this forum to persuade others to follow you, than God bless you. That’s what this forum and the free exchange of ideas is all about.

However, if you try to spread false information and try to convince people that Rudy is in favor of draconian health initiatives to coerce people to do the right thing and save the state money on Medicaid and Medicare expenses, you are wrong.

I hope you and everyone else will take my word for it. I don’t feel like posting the orgy of information to prove that Rudy is not a nanny stater again.

But if somebody calls Shenanigans, I will have to.


3,647 posted on 04/22/2007 7:41:56 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: rockrr

Amazingly, my eyes are okay.


3,648 posted on 04/22/2007 7:42:05 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: Rex Anderson

Nope


3,649 posted on 04/22/2007 7:42:08 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..Doing real on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: trussell
Yes, and I’m preparing to run and hide, lest I be accused of stalking and get banned.

When the bats come out of their caves, I'll go pop in a dvd and watch it in bed. With popcorn. We always seem to drop a few kernels though. :-)

3,650 posted on 04/22/2007 7:43:01 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Registered

Bizarro World.

NautiNurse is one of the good guys.


3,651 posted on 04/22/2007 7:43:44 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Eric Blair 2084

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1814394/posts

Goes beyond “nanny state”.


3,652 posted on 04/22/2007 7:43:45 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: IrishRainy
McCain scares the heck out of me, too. My response was solely with respect to experience relevant to fighting the WOT. It's too early for me to make choices beyond those who I believe are totally unacceptable. I still want to hear from all the candidates and learn about their platforms and their record.

I see no reason to believe that Rudy is equipped to handle the job relative to the WOT. He scares me more than McCain in that regard.

3,653 posted on 04/22/2007 7:44:11 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: mware

Cool.


3,654 posted on 04/22/2007 7:44:15 PM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998.)
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To: Registered
>>>>>Reagan Man is an obvious Leftist troll.

LOL Registered and 68grunt team up ----- the liberal Nancy Boys of Free Republic.

3,655 posted on 04/22/2007 7:44:16 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Dstorm
So just to catch up, What are the names of the RudyBots who have been shown the airlock?

Well, there is Peach, FairOpinion, Katie-O, habs4ever (not sure if that puke was a RudyBot or just a sleeper troll), Quidnuc, CeltJewLibertarian, there may be others but those are the ones who come to mind first.

And I predict more to follow.
3,656 posted on 04/22/2007 7:44:32 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: processing please hold

Yikes...aren’t you worried the bats might come around for the crumbs?


3,657 posted on 04/22/2007 7:44:38 PM PDT by trussell
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To: mkjessup

there’s also MiaT and luis gonzalez, plus a couple others.


3,658 posted on 04/22/2007 7:46:22 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: processing please hold

He is fun to have around, isn’t he!


3,659 posted on 04/22/2007 7:46:55 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Hi RA
Would you please pass a message on to King prout for me? Let him know he will be missed. I would appreciate it!


3,660 posted on 04/22/2007 7:47:14 PM PDT by trussell
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