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If there's no FRed and no Hunter and we're left with the four headless RINOs, then what?
January 10, 2008 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 01/10/2008 3:40:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson

The question was posed to me last night, if the only two conservatives in the race were to drop out, leaving the hapless RINOs Giuliani, Romney, Huckabee and McCain to ward off the Evil Witch of the East then, Jim, what do we do?

Well, I think four issues that most of us conservatives will agree on that are at the top or near the top of our priority lists are National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life should be considered. We can argue all day long on whether or not these guys are constitutionally minded, small government fiscal conservatives, and I don't believe any of them are, but we'll leave that for another day. Let's concentrate on National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life.

Well, I can see right off that that rules out Rudy, the draft dodging, gun grabbing, sanctuary city abortionist. At least the other three claim to be pro-life, although Romney has been a pro-choice abortionist for all of his elected history until he decided to run for president. I think Romney's pro choice, big government nanny state (RomneyCare) record gives him two big black eyes and should knock him out of any further consideration. That leaves Huckabee and McCain.

Now, all four of these guys are terrible on border security even though they're all claiming now to be border hawks. McCain led the charge for amnesty and the rest fell in line like dutiful RINO troopers. Can't really make a distinction among these guys on the border issue. All fail, though I think most conservatives would rank McCain at or near the bottom.

Guns. Rudy's definitely out. McCain's out. Romney's not much better. Guess Huckabee the big duck hunter outshoots the others in this category.

Rudy fails in all categories, McCain and Romney fail on guns, and all fail on borders. So I guess Huckabee has more to offer over the others at this point as he is at least pro-life and pro-gun.

Now comes national defense. Sorry, but I can't see the draft dodging, gun grabbing, gay loving, cross-dressing, illegal alien pandering abortion activist Rudy Giuliani as a very appealing or effective guy to head up our military, even if he did make some rousing anti-terrorist speeches on 9/11. The "gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military" Romney (no military or national security experience that I know of) doesn't give me goosebumps either.

So, again, we're down to Huckabee and McCain. Now you all know that I like Huckabee as he is a likable fellow, and I hate McCain, but wait. If the whole shebang is going to be decided on which of the still standing Republican wannabes should defend America from the terrorists and the surrendering Democrats, I think I'll have to go with McCain over Huckabee. At least McCain served in the military and has a whole lot more military and national security experience while serving on various committees in the senate than does Huckabee. Huckabee has none. And I doubt Huckabee can defeat Hillary. But then, McCain probably won't either, so guess that leaves plan B. Squat down, tuck your head down between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye.

Here's praying that the only two all around consistently reliable conservatives hang in there and one of them gets the nod.

Go Hunter!! Go, FRed, GO!!


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To: Jim Robinson

The next president will make appointments to the SCOTUS. I hope President Fred Thompson is making those appointments when the time comes.

If we are left with a lesser man for our nominee, it’s difficult to believe the worst of ours would make choices as bad for the country as the Dem winner.

I’ll have to take a chance on that being the case, and support the Republican nominee, when I know for certain what type of appointments would be made by any of the Dems.


361 posted on 01/10/2008 5:49:11 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Thompson should offer the VP position to Paul. I know most Freepers really hate that, BUT - WE - NEED - THOSE - INDY - VOTES. PERIOD.”

How many independent/libertarian/racist voters are we talking about?

362 posted on 01/10/2008 5:50:12 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: tarheelswamprat
...a craven submission destroys that hope and extinguishes the very remembrance of the ideas and principles for which we strove.

The RINO bottomline.

363 posted on 01/10/2008 5:50:51 PM PST by TigersEye (Crusty is as Crusty does.)
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To: Ron in Acreage
Yep, sometimes you play defense. If you can’t ram it down their throats, you keep them from ramming it down yours.

Amen, brother.

364 posted on 01/10/2008 5:51:28 PM PST by itsamelman (Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh. - - Al Swearengen)
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To: Elyse

The best thing we can do is all get behind the strongest conservative in the race and get him over the hump. I say FRed is the man!! But Hunter would be great too!!

Go Hunter!! Go, FRed, GO!!


365 posted on 01/10/2008 5:51:33 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: TigersEye
I guess I should have just answered you "yes" it is like we are going to die horribly.

Perhaps.

I'm convicted and am so in stride.

Life is good. : )

366 posted on 01/10/2008 5:51:51 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: LucyJo
I don't see any difference. Just look at what Schwarzenegger has done for California and perhaps other states following California's example, with S.B. 777.
367 posted on 01/10/2008 5:52:48 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Elyse

Bravo bravo bravo!!! Fear is a lousy guiding light.


368 posted on 01/10/2008 5:53:25 PM PST by TigersEye (Crusty is as Crusty does.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Go Hunter!! Go, FRed, GO!!

Gosh Jim, Fred is cutting into my donations to Free Republic!

How far should I take it? /snicker

369 posted on 01/10/2008 5:54:02 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: LucyJo
The next president will make appointments to the SCOTUS.

That is about the only reason I could consider McCain or Romney.

I think McCain's appointments would be in the range of Bush. And I think that if the right supported Romney, he would at least give us his first appointment. (But maybe I'm wrong) Any case, they would be better than Hillary. Giuliani has already told us that Bader-Ginsburg is a good standard to pick justices. So if we get Hillary-like appointments from him, why even consider him?

370 posted on 01/10/2008 5:54:17 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: scripter

Social liberalism (Arnold) didn’t work for California, and social liberalism will not work for America. Down with RINOism!!

Go, FRed, GO!!


371 posted on 01/10/2008 5:55:32 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Without the libertarians and independents, the GOP is going to lose in Reagan/Mondale proportions."

I think you're correct, but you forgot to add the many conservatives who have no intention of voting for a candidate just because of the "R" after his name.

You are sorely mistaken if you believe that the reason the Republicans have no $ this cycle is because the libertarians and independents have stopped funding them. The Wall Street and Beltway Boys have sent their $ to the Democrats. That's why any Republican who gets the nomination will be accepting matching funds from the gov't and will be outspent about 10-1 by the Democrat candidate.

372 posted on 01/10/2008 5:55:49 PM PST by penowa
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To: EGPWS

I regret that I have but one web site to give for my country. All the way with FRed!!


373 posted on 01/10/2008 5:57:15 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson
I regret that I have but one web site to give for my country.

Damn the torpedo's, FULL SPEED AHEAD!

374 posted on 01/10/2008 5:59:04 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: pay dirt

marker


375 posted on 01/10/2008 5:59:27 PM PST by pay dirt
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To: processing please hold

lolol!


376 posted on 01/10/2008 6:01:04 PM PST by nicmarlo (I hereby declare my support for Duncan Hunter. 1/10/08; late to the party, but I have arrived!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Sorry, but I can't see the draft dodging, gun grabbing, gay loving, cross-dressing, illegal alien pandering abortion activist Rudy Giuliani as a very appealing or effective guy to head up our military, even if he did make some rousing anti-terrorist speeches on 9/11.

Don't hold back Jim, just say what you really think of Giuliani!

377 posted on 01/10/2008 6:02:07 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: Jim Robinson
We can argue all day long on whether or not these guys are constitutionally minded, small government fiscal conservatives, and I don't believe any of them are, but we'll leave that for another day.

How many election cycles is it now that's been "left for another day"?

378 posted on 01/10/2008 6:02:10 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I am glad it won’t come to this.

I expect Thompson/Romney either right before or after the Convention. The signs are already there. Huck changed the dynamic for both men.

It will benefit both, give Mitt conservative exposure in the real world and let him get used to his new found conservatism and prove us wrong. It will also help with the GOP strong holds in the South in 2016. Fred gets the organizational help and a boost in his weak geographical areas as well.


379 posted on 01/10/2008 6:03:15 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: JOE6PAK
If there's no FRed and no Hunter and we're left with the four headless RINOs, then what?

DRINK!

Buy ammo and stay sober. We will be needing our wits.

380 posted on 01/10/2008 6:03:24 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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