Posted on 12/08/2008 7:12:24 AM PST by cycle of discernment
too bad
“There job is not to investigate, that is the job of the accuser; to bring the evidence before them.”
Yes, I understand that, but therein lies the “Catch 22”. It takes a court to order the BC to be released for examination. Without the BC, is not possible to have any credible evident (assuming the BC has irregularities to would be damning) to support a hearing.
Trying to educate people such as yourself. By the way this is a conservative website and conservatives believe in laws and an orderly process for changing laws. Its the Left wing who wants to run to court to overturn elections they are unhappy with.
Who are YOU to lecture me?
I think so ...
One could be ordered released in discovery if evidence is brought forth that would make a case viable. Then, the court isn’t investigating but acting on the accuser’s investigation.
You’re welcome. :-)
Yeah, that's right. I'm on the take. Me, Rush, Michele Malkin, Scalia, Thomas, the entire Bush Justice Department, every media outlet, every state Secretary of State, the Governor of Hawaii and so on down the line. Everyone's on the payroll except you. This is, in fact, where all the bailout money's going. You've figured it out. Congratulations.
I suppose so, but does he have to do it so endlessly? Repeat Repeat Repeat
Sadly, before the election, all we heard was “Let this go, we’ll beat him on the issues”. Now after the election, and we DIDN’T beat him on the issues, we hear “Let this go, the people have spoken” or something equivelant.
At what point do you say “WHAT THE HEY!?”
This has been an issue long before people were deeply dissapointed in the election and grasping at straws to undo it.
And we all recognize that a Democrat will be in office. We just expect the leader of this land to be held to the same standard as everyone else.
If I have to show my birth certificate to get into school, get a drivers license, get Social Security, why doesn’t our “leader”?
Might be cheaper than fighting on the issues...or just a lucky side effect...
Far be it from me to read his and his advisors’ minds why they’ve chosen to do what they’ve done.
Thank you for the update, BP2.
Ping.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2144892/posts?page=737#737
Who are YOU to lecture me?
***I’m your worst nightmare, a constitutionalist who signed up on this constitutionalist website before you did.
By the way this is a conservative website and conservatives believe in laws and an orderly process for changing laws.
***And it’s the law that says an ineligible person cannot be president.
Its the Left wing who wants to run to court to overturn elections they are unhappy with.
***It is the constitution that spells out the orderly redress of compaints such as this ineligibility one — through the courts, dimwit. The left wing is allowed to do it and so are we. There’s no “overturning” an election, or did you not bother to read about the 20th amendment like I posted, Characterless?
“The problem is... how to put this gently... many members of the African-American community would not take it too well. I would even go so far as to suggest that they would not blame him, but.... someone else. Loudly. Violently. Destructively. We certainly have every legal and moral right to ignore that potential and press on, especially if the man lied to the nation, but let’s not kid ourselves: the consequences could be catastrophic. “
I have no doubt the AA community would be fit to be tied. But I also know that I am for what is right, not what will make a group happy.
It would make the terrorists happy if we all adopted Sharia law, but should we? Because they want us dead?
It’s the same concept Andy. You bow down to fear of physical aggression, you will be a slave to it.
Gotcha. I was confused by the 700 plus posts and couldn’t remember if you said you had verified it or not.
Wouldn’t that be like a prosecutor having to go to court to get a warrant to get phone records to bring evidence to court to convict someone?
So this would be like the phone company ignoring a court order to provide the records, as BO has ignored court orders to provide his BC.
Darn it all...I meant the shiners area in the backwoods of of eastern Kentucky...no idea why I said western, but what the heck, I think either side of Kentucky would frown on ATF/DEA running through the woods :P
A more productive route in my opinion,
***Fortunately for us, your opinion doesn’t count much, just like your character. The founding fathers set up the productive route in the 20th amendment, so maybe you should read up on it before you spout off more worthless opinions. Trying to get an incumbent president kicked off the ballot because he’s ineligible sounds pretty unproductive to me, but it doesn’t surprise me that it sounds good to you.
Wearing black has become traditional for me. Now the Democrats have accomplished their ultimate Coupe D Etat without one shot fired.
We have a Kenyan who will soon be in the White House. The Constitution is once again gutted.
The Justices failed their ultimate test. All that was asked for Obama to show his Certificate of Live Birth. How tough can that be?
Now, I understand how the South felt when they believed they had no other alternative.
Our Forefather’s in their wisdom established our government in three parts to check and balance each other. They specifically stated the requirements for the office of the president. Each is asked to swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States. Unfortunately the founding fathers did not establish who would vet each candidate for president to determine eligibility.
Nor did they establish “standing” if such a case were ever to be presented.. Standing , a arbitrary term established for the smooth working of the judiciary system, is not a condition established by the Constitution.
This case is of a magnitude seldom if ever seen in the country. This will NOT go away precisely because, our constitution is being challenged by a lawyer who claims he is trained in constitutional law. The Judicial branch of government is being attacked by the Executive branch. Said lawyer is also a student of Saul Alinsky who taught methods of anarchism.....To destroy or deminish the third branch of government that checks his office IS to create chaos......
The Justices have no choice but to meet the challenge. They MUST act decisively and with great power! No one should be excused for attacking our government from within. They should be executed. It is treason!
Gee—can’t keep 700 posts straight? Got Berg/Donofrio/Soetoro/COLB/Dunham/Kogelo/Wrotnowski et al swirling around up there?! *grin*
I presume what you meant to say is that anarchy is a goal of the far left which should be avoided, not that the Left wants to avoid anarchy. After all, they do have Bill Ayers as one of their closest confidants.
I was surprised as well that there was no requirement that I have found, hence my nod towards bureaucratic miscommuniation. In any case, I doubt that no matter what happens, Obama will be able to get on a ballot in the future without the formal documentation.
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