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The Dangers of Disputing Global Warming Orthodoxy
Ludwig von Mises Institute ^ | January 8, 2009 | David Gordon

Posted on 01/08/2009 8:27:27 AM PST by all the best

Those of us who refuse to accept calls from proponents of global warming for drastic restrictions on production often confront objections like this:

Skeptics, blinded by fanatical devotion to the free market, ignore evidence. True enough, you can trot out a few scientists who agree with you. But the overwhelming majority of climate scientists view man-made global warming as a great threat to the world. The course of inaction you urge on us threatens the earth with disaster.

Christopher Horner's excellent book provides a convincing response to this all-too-frequent complaint.

But how can it do so? Will not an "anti-global-warming" book of necessity consist of an account of scientists who dissent from the consensus? If so, will it not fall victim to the difficulty raised in our imagined objection? The book will pick a few favored experts to back up a preconceived political agenda.

Horner strikes at the root of this objection: it rests on a false premise. Contrary to what our objection assumes, there is no consensus of scientists behind global-warming alarmism:

Professor Dennis Bray and Hans von Storch polled climate scientists to rate the statement, "To what extent do you agree or disagree that climate change is mostly the result of anthropogenic causes?" … They received responses from 530 climate scientists in 27 countries, of whom 44 percent were either neutral or disagreed with the statement… Science magazine helpfully refused to publish the findings.

But do not the most prestigious bodies of scientists, such as the National Academy of Science and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, claim that man-made global warming is indeed a danger? Horner shows that matters are not what they appear. Environmentalists insinuated their way into the National Academy through "a special Temporary Nominating Committee for the Global Environment, bypassing normal election procedures"

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Excellent review of book "Red Hot Lies: How Global Warming Alarmists Use Threats, Fraud and Deception to Keep You Misinformed"
1 posted on 01/08/2009 8:27:27 AM PST by all the best
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But do not the most prestigious bodies of scientists, such as the National Academy of Science and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, claim that man-made global warming is indeed a danger?

Is not his superior syntax indeed impressive?

2 posted on 01/08/2009 8:31:53 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Praise and worship" is my alternate lifestyle.)
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To: all the best; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; SideoutFred; ...
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3 posted on 01/08/2009 8:32:08 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: all the best

Negative attitude toward “global warming” is the same today as a geocentric universe was in Copernicus’ and Galileo’s time. The MSM is the Spanish Inquisition, Algore is the Pope and that NASA hack is Torquemada............


4 posted on 01/08/2009 8:42:57 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: all the best
One doesn't need a list of 'dissenting scientists' to demolish the claims of anthopogenic global warming. On only needs to mention two names, one a climate scientist, Ferenc M. Miskolczi, the other a mathematician who died before WW I, Henri Poincaré.

Poincaré was the one who first noticed the phenomenon has since been given the flashy name "chaotic dynamics": some (systems of) non-linear differential equations (it happens including those governing heating and cooling in fluid media like air) are so sensitive to initial condidtions that without complete knowledge of the inital conditions, they are useless for long-term prediction. Hence the impossibility of predicting the weather 48 hours out.

This insight suffices to show that all discrete computer models of weather or climate (that try to look more than about 48 hours out) are necessarily example of 'Garbage in, garbage out'.

But Miskolczi showed that even more garbage goes into AGW climate models. The computer modelers don't bother going back to the partial differential equations that actually describe the greenhouse effect. Instead they use solutions to those equations derived in the 1920's under the simplifying assumption of an infinitely thick atmosphere of uniform composition!

Miskolczi solved the actual greenhouse equations with more realistic version of the atmosphere (finite thickness, though I think still uniform in composition) and got a model that, without any fiddling to get it to fit existing data, correctly modeled temperature on both Earth and Mars over a run of several decades, and (drum roll please) predicts that the greenhouse effect is self-limiting and the disasters the AGW folk predict simply won't occur.

If we're really talking about science, the number of dissenters, or the number of folks supporting the prevailing view are irrelevancies. Poincaré and Miskolczi alone trump a stadium full of 'climate modelers' whose fat grants depend on all agreeing with each other and on whipping up hysteria so the otherwise dry and academic exercise of trying to understand long-term climate change sounds important to policy makers.

5 posted on 01/08/2009 8:47:58 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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The global warming “consensus” is little different than the Catholic Church’s embracing of Aristotle’s ideas about the universe during the Middle Ages. Aristotle had declared that the earth was the center of the universe and that the sun and planets revolved about a static earth. To scientists of the day you either excepted this dogma or faced the Inquisition for heresy. Any scientific study that disproved this dogma, like that done Galileo, was condemned and their books were banned or burned as heresy.


6 posted on 01/08/2009 8:49:02 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: all the best
The best defense against this fraud is to NOT react or contribute to anything to do with "gorebull warming". It's a fraud, a hoax, and it doesn't exist.

When in doubt, look up. Buy a thermometer. Check different sources, not just the algorites sponsored sites.

The warming trend we last in past years is directly correlated with sunspot activity...when it subsides, the temps will go back to normal. Haven't we been having record cold and snowfalls across the country.

Don't let the carbon credit loonies piss on your shoes and tell you it's raining...or warming. It just ain't so.

If someone mentions global warming in anything other than a satirical way, just just laugh and walk away. Don't give them an audience, they're convinced and any conversation you have with them will only lead to shouting and name-calling...by them.

The adults in the world are willing to wait this thing out...the longer we wait the more evidence there is that we are NOT experiencing global warming, and the more frantic the proponents of it get.

Just laugh at them, and keep your money in your pockets...it will eventually dry up.
7 posted on 01/08/2009 8:50:11 AM PST by FrankR (“Turtle up”, economically, for the duration of the 0bamanation.)
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To: Red Badger

Global warming exists—If you go back as far to the Ice Age.
The idea that the planet is somehow being subjected to a radical change in climate from man made activity is ridiculous, unfounded, unprovable and flies in the face of the traditional rules of scientific hypotheseis and theory.
It’s disgusting to “grunt scientists” (like myself) that so many high profile scientists would sell-out and embrace this climate change garbage.


8 posted on 01/08/2009 9:00:50 AM PST by 07Jack
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To: all the best
I have the book, and it's quite well researched and written.

Fear global warmism, where the only "solutions" to an imaginary crisis are to surrender rights, property, and self-rule.

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9 posted on 01/08/2009 9:13:25 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Seaplaner

Remember:

If you get into an argument with a fool, nobody will be able to tell you apart.


10 posted on 01/08/2009 9:20:14 AM PST by bicyclerepair (Ft. Lauderdale Florida)
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To: FrankR
Just laugh at them, and keep your money in your pockets...it will eventually dry up.

Trouble is, they're going to tax all of us.
11 posted on 01/08/2009 9:22:47 AM PST by Hiddigeigei (Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder. [Arnold Toynbee])
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

12 posted on 01/08/2009 9:31:09 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: all the best

GoreBULL warming is just another lie the left uses to attack American values. Like evolution, it tells people to forget God and to worship Nature like a God. When this hoax is uncovered in the next decades, when the temperature doesn’t rise but drops, the Left will just move onto a different scam to pull the wool over our eyes.


13 posted on 01/08/2009 9:49:08 AM PST by ToGodBeTheGlory (All our promises and resolutions end in denial because we have no power to accomplish them.)
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"Trouble is, they're going to tax all of us. "

They can't get blood from a turnip. They are costing us all our jobs, our homes, and our future...all of the high paying jobs will start disappearing. If he taxes the "poor" then his very base will hate him. This puts the Kenyan in a lose-lose situation.

You can't redistribute what isn't there, and his plan will destroy the very segment of society that would be furnishing that money for redistribution. By then, we'll all be below that threshhold and we will be eligible for some of that redistributed money (that isn't there)...THEN, we will have a depression.

I know the mASSes think he is the Messiah, but he is really a stumbling, bumbling, empty suit puppet who has yet to prove that he is even eligible for the Presidency under our Constitution. The American and Global economy is very complicated, and people are going to survive one way or another.

We cannot allow the oogling fans of this media-manufactured phenomenon to cow us into a corner. We fought for this country and many have died for our freedoms, so now we're going to let an empty suit, limp-wristed senators, and a flaming california liberal take it all away on a whim?

We should show up in front of Congress with one of those old hot TAR trucks and a semi-trailer full of feathers, and invite Barner, Harry, and Nancy outside for a chat. It doesn't matter that they are not our state representative/senators, they are responsible for the demise of what we once called America.

The libs thrive on symbolism, so let's give them some.
14 posted on 01/08/2009 10:02:44 AM PST by FrankR (“Turtle up”, economically, for the duration of the 0bamanation.)
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To: all the best

bttt


15 posted on 01/10/2009 1:22:34 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: all the best
Unfortunately, we cannot remain neutral while the experts battle. The global-warming advocates support drastic measures that would seriously affect production. Some of them go further and call for curbs on human population. In this connection, it is more than a little disturbing that John Holdren, chosen by Barack Obama as his science advisor since the publication of Horner's book, is a close associate of Paul Ehrlich. Holdren was among those elected to the National Academy of Science "from the temporary nominating group" earlier mentioned (p. 93). To decline to take a stand is to surrender to environmentalist extremists.

I forgot. That scares me.

16 posted on 01/10/2009 1:32:21 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: all the best
In the 70s, we had the coming ice age and now it's global warming. How many years of contrary weather does it take to change the hype from one climatic disaster to another?

If the sun spot frequency to temperature correlations are correct, the 70s coming ice age predictions are more likely to be true.

Books like this are definitely needed. I'm trying to understand the human tendency toward mass stupidity and there are so many examples such as the recent election, the Algore generated global warming hype, the various financial bubble booms and crashes, the popularity of Paris Hilton, the ease the demonrats fool the masses and marginalize their critics...etc., etc.

The left is far better at exploiting this seemingly built in tendency and even supposedly smart people fall in line.

17 posted on 01/10/2009 6:28:07 AM PST by GBA
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To: all the best

Global Warming - a first class Gorbasm.


18 posted on 01/10/2009 6:48:57 AM PST by hgro (Jerry Riversd)
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To: Red Badger

Coldest year in 15, snow flooding Giant Stadium against my poor Eagles, no ice bergs leaking yet the public is brainwashed as are our crumb crunchers in primary school that the earth is firing up and we need carbon offsets!!!


19 posted on 01/10/2009 10:13:18 AM PST by phillyfanatic ( iT)
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You will get no sympathy from this Cowboys fan........


20 posted on 01/10/2009 11:33:16 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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