Skip to comments.CNN via BREAKING on Drudge: White House releases Obama birth certificate
Posted on 04/27/2011 6:09:26 AM PDT by DCBryan1Edited on 04/27/2011 6:22:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
(CNN) The White House released President Obamas original birth certificate Wednesday.
The surprise release follows recent and sustained remarks by businessman Donald Trump, among others, that raised doubts as to whether the president was born in the United States.
Ooops, at the beginning I mistakenly stated the Arthur said his father was 40 at the time of his birth while he was actually 33. As I note at the end, however, 33 years old was plenty of time to get naturalized for a man who had been in the U.S. at least ten years.
FOX has been going to the left and it seems Soros and media matters with their money is getting FOX to do this
Instead of them putting people down for asking questions then why don’t they do their job for just once and I have a question for them.
Did obama not state in his book he was named Barry and went to school as Barry but later changed his name later on in his life to Barack?
If so then how can this short form not long form like FOX keep stating state Barack at birth?
There were many, many stylistic changes made to the Constitution; not all changes were substantive.
did he not state in his book he was named Barry but later changed his name to Barack later on in his life?
I believe he did so how on earth can his short form which has been shown today state Barack?
What jumps out at me is that the O's in both Oahu's are not in line with the rest of the word, they are a little high. However, in OBAMA, which is all in caps, the O is perfectly in line with the rest of the word.
Two different "typewriters?"
Image 0 is the background with most of the text knocked out like you showed.
Image 1 was the main body of the PDF file stored as a monochrome image. Those letters still shown in full in Image 0 are missing from Image 1.
Image 2 was the registrar's signature block.
Image 3 was the APR 25 2011 date stamp.
Image 4 was part of the date stamp from block 22. The rest showed up in image 1.
Image 5 was the date stamp from block 20 missing the final 1 in the date, which showed up in image 1.
Image 6 was the letters "Non" from None in block 17a (the E showed up in image 1).
Image 7 was a 243x217 pixel region of somewhat random pixels. I can't tell the source.
Image 8 was a similar 132x142 pixel region.
It looks like rather than just scanning to a flat image with no processing, whoever scanned it created a multilayer file suitable for running an optical character recognition program. Here's a suggestion, White House. Scan at a high resolution to a TIF file with no compression, no sharpening/edge enhancement and no color correction. The file will be huge but it will help those looking for forgeries.
WRONG! Frank Marshall Davis was an America.
It would not have been released today if it weren't for the birthers. From what I recall a lot of people were insisting to the "birthers" that Obama's Birth Certificate was released long ago. Those are the people with eggs on their face not the birthers. Today, Obama proved them right and the Karl Roves of the nation wrong.
“Woo Hoo, Thats a fake raght there!!! I guaranteeeee!!!”
I’ve asked this before but did he not state he was born as Barry in his book and was named Barry at school when young?
If so then how can this form have Barack on it?
doesn’t make sense does it and he still cannot answer why was this sealed with all other records.
Sure. That and then some:
I believe the Constitution does not define the term “natural born Citizen.”
I believe we need a definitive ruling from the SCOTUS on the definition of “natural born Citizen.”
I believe that the FF intended “natural born Citizen” to mean a child born on U.S. soil to U.S. citizen parents.
I don’t believe we’ll ever get a ruling on Obama’s NBC status while he’s in office.
I would accept a ruling from the SCOTUS that said Obama is a natural born Citizen.
Was that what you wanted? Did I leave out anything?
Re: CNN via BREAKING on Drudge: White House releases Obama birth certificate To KarlInOhio | 04/27/2011 9:19:56 AM PDT sent You seem to have some knowledge on computer generated and/or manipulated files. I noticed when I refreshed the image that all the green background shows up with a little bit of the black text here and there, but most of the text shows as white, then when its done reloading all the black text shows up. Is that normal?
I was able to get a screen capture of it just prior to it generating the rest of the black text.
Perhaps he meant that's what he wanted people to call him. Like one day somebody wants to be called "Ed" instead of "Eddie."
Footprint is on an actual birth certificate.
OR ELSE THE TYPIST USED THE CAPS LOCK KEY because the whole line was capitalized instead of having to move the whole rack of letter arms with her pinky on the shift key.
We've gotten so used to word processors and laser printers that we've forgotten just how crappy typewritten pages looked, especially on manual typewriters.
Birther have been exposed as the conspiracy nuts they were accused of being!!! Birthers celebrate win!!!
If they did that, why would there be white spaces around the lettering? There should only be black ink on top of green security paper (no printer prints in white).
The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.
The constitution nowhere defines the meaning of these words [citizen and natural born citizen], either by way of inclusion or of exclusion, except in so far as this is done by the affirmative declaration that 'all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States....It thus clearly appears that by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country, and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, and the jurisdiction of the English sovereign; and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject, unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign state, or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born. The same rule was in force in all the English colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the constitution as originally established.
No, he wasn’t named Barry, he used Barry as a shortned, anglicized form of Barack until Barack served him better.
You are way off on this one. Sure, Dutch traders went through Kenya, just like Portuguese traders did, but Kenya was not colonized by Europeans until the Imperial British East Africa Company arrived in 1887; the British government itself took over in 1895 when it formed the East Africa Protectorate, and Kenya was a British colony continuously until independence in 1962. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kenya#Colonial_history Kenyan law is not based on Dutch law; Kenyan law is based on the English Common Law: http://www.usig.org/countryinfo/kenya.asp
Just because Dutch-descended Boers in South Africa used the term “Afrikan” as a racial term does not mean that the use of “African” as a racial term in Kenya is a legacy of Dutch colonialism.
Birther have been exposed for knowing that Obama did not release his birth certificate and the very release of that document today proved the birthers right and their critics wrong. Period!
It’s time to talk about the economy.
“Why is her name listed as Stanley Ann Dunham Obama?? Were they married?
And why is her name printed as Stanley Ann Dunham, but her signature is Stanley Ann Dunham Obama?
How do we find marriage records/name change records from Hawaii in 1961?”
—Interesting observation. They were supposedly married in Feb., 1961 I believe but I haven’t seen an official record of it.
And why is her name printed as Stanley Ann Dunham, but her signature is Stanley Ann Dunham Obama?
Line 13 is "Full Maiden Name of Mother".
Wrong. Minor didn’t TRY to deal with NBC, because that wasn’t an issue.
WKA did deal with the issue, and as you point out, decided that a person born with two alien parents is indeed a natural born citizen, and thus a citizen. They used the same argument as was used in the case I cited from 1844 (and which they cited with approval).
The 1844 case goes into greater detail, showing the colonies that used natural born subject in their laws prior to the Revolution changed them to natural born citizen after the Revolution, and thus the meaning of NBS carries over into the meaning of NBC.
I suggest we make the commercials anyway.
If it turns out to be a false document, is Obama or his minions going to go to the press saying “They are lying about Larkin, we didn’t produce the BC.”
You get US citizenship at birth if you are born in this country, regardless of where the parents are from.”
Not in 1961. Laws have changed since but in 1961 the laws were different.
Invalid question. Of course printers don’t print white. That’s not the point. Think of it this way. Where there is supposed to be white, a printer will not print black ink.
RE: Harp Seals
Where’s my baseball bat!?!
The only way they could convince me this is a real BC is if it says born in Kenya & nursed on the tit of a Jackal!
And the marriage documents are where?
So why were you saying in your original reply that I was wrong? I only have one alien parent who was born in the Philippines when it was an American territory.
Is that normal for PDFs to do that in a redraw?
Nope, it is still a fake
That's the crux of the issue. I too feel that was their intent. I hope SCOTUS rules on that once and for all and the states keep pursuing the eligibility bills so this mess doesn't happen down the road.
The Booth certificate says:
“This certifies that the above is a true and correct copy of the original record on file in the Bureau of Health Statistics, Territory of Hawaii Department of Health”
Signature not legible
Deputy Registrar General Date 12-14-50
Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth released today says
“I certify this is a true or abstract copy of txe Record on file in the Hawaii State Department of Health”
Alvin T. Onaka, Ph.d. Apr 25 2011
I wonder when the stamp was changed to “ABSTRACT” from “CORRECT” and why this one wasn't certified with a raised seal.(Also the "the" is misspelled to "txe" in the stamp, which is strange)
“Abstract” may be a very recent change. This may be why the Hawaiian Department of Health says the long form is no longer available.
I'm going to assume Obama’s is an “ABSTRACT” since the long form is no longer available.
Man that is scary, scary scary.
I am not computer whiz at all, I don’t know how that shows up from something that is from computer screen.
I am SCARED for my country, the country where my ancestors shed their blood for and on in wars and in building this nation.
GOD above please help us out of this mess.
Question: Assuming the pages all came from the same stack, and assuming the 61 numbers were printed on the pages, why does thd number 6 not align identically unter the small print “state department above the numbers?
Of course, I am gullible to your post also, it could be something yo just made up. I don’t know you from adam, but i think what you are posting is real. thanks
In my original reply, I wrote:
“Well, in 1844 you would have been eligible, but in 2008 a new legal principle was discovered - ignore the law and worship Vattel.”
I was being sarcastic, since many birthers dumped all legal rulings and started claiming - in 2008 - that someone with an alien parent could not become President.
I then posted a link to a well thought out legal decision, made in 1844 concerning inheriting property, that explained in detail WHY a natural born citizen of the US can have zero, one, or two citizen parents.
“Notes from the constitutional debates show that the delegates understood the meaning of Natural Born Citizen to be a person with two parents who are/were U. S. citizens.”
Which would make sense. Giving families at least one generation to live her and understand the ideals of the country. That is why you have to study U. S. history to become a naturalized citizen.
Sorry, I meant the small print- Department of Health, above the number 61
Gee. I wonder what kind of Obama-bot believes that!
The commercials will be made. Obama has NO idea how angry and heartsick millions of Americans already are over his treatment of Lakin—and how many millions more will be when they find out about him. [Sorry, MSM; your news embargo is about to come to a close.] Barry is too narcissistic to have any idea how he affects others. He’s about to find out.