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CNN via BREAKING on Drudge: White House releases Obama birth certificate
CNN ^ | 27 APR 11 | DCBryan1

Posted on 04/27/2011 6:09:26 AM PDT by DCBryan1

Edited on 04/27/2011 6:22:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

(CNN) The White House released President Obama’s original birth certificate Wednesday.

The surprise release follows recent and sustained remarks by businessman Donald Trump, among others, that raised doubts as to whether the president was born in the United States.


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To: Plummz

Ooops, at the beginning I mistakenly stated the Arthur said his father was 40 at the time of his birth while he was actually 33. As I note at the end, however, 33 years old was plenty of time to get naturalized for a man who had been in the U.S. at least ten years.


901 posted on 04/27/2011 10:29:30 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: logician2u

FOX has been going to the left and it seems Soros and media matters with their money is getting FOX to do this

Instead of them putting people down for asking questions then why don’t they do their job for just once and I have a question for them.

Did obama not state in his book he was named Barry and went to school as Barry but later changed his name later on in his life to Barack?

If so then how can this short form not long form like FOX keep stating state Barack at birth?


902 posted on 04/27/2011 10:30:30 AM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

bm


903 posted on 04/27/2011 10:31:08 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Godebert

There were many, many stylistic changes made to the Constitution; not all changes were substantive.


904 posted on 04/27/2011 10:31:27 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: eraser2005

did he not state in his book he was named Barry but later changed his name to Barack later on in his life?

I believe he did so how on earth can his short form which has been shown today state Barack?


905 posted on 04/27/2011 10:32:21 AM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Why are the O’s in Oahu and Obama different fonts? If this was a real typewriter it would be the same.

What jumps out at me is that the O's in both Oahu's are not in line with the rest of the word, they are a little high. However, in OBAMA, which is all in caps, the O is perfectly in line with the rest of the word.

Two different "typewriters?"

906 posted on 04/27/2011 10:32:26 AM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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To: cyberaxe
I just downloaded and ran "Some PDF Image Extract". It extracted 9 images from the Obama PDF.

Image 0 is the background with most of the text knocked out like you showed.
Image 1 was the main body of the PDF file stored as a monochrome image. Those letters still shown in full in Image 0 are missing from Image 1.
Image 2 was the registrar's signature block.
Image 3 was the APR 25 2011 date stamp.
Image 4 was part of the date stamp from block 22. The rest showed up in image 1.
Image 5 was the date stamp from block 20 missing the final 1 in the date, which showed up in image 1.
Image 6 was the letters "Non" from None in block 17a (the E showed up in image 1).
Image 7 was a 243x217 pixel region of somewhat random pixels. I can't tell the source.
Image 8 was a similar 132x142 pixel region.

It looks like rather than just scanning to a flat image with no processing, whoever scanned it created a multilayer file suitable for running an optical character recognition program. Here's a suggestion, White House. Scan at a high resolution to a TIF file with no compression, no sharpening/edge enhancement and no color correction. The file will be huge but it will help those looking for forgeries.

907 posted on 04/27/2011 10:34:17 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: skeptoid

WRONG! Frank Marshall Davis was an America.


908 posted on 04/27/2011 10:34:23 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: tirednvirginia
Birthers here will be so disappointed.

It would not have been released today if it weren't for the birthers. From what I recall a lot of people were insisting to the "birthers" that Obama's Birth Certificate was released long ago. Those are the people with eggs on their face not the birthers. Today, Obama proved them right and the Karl Roves of the nation wrong.

909 posted on 04/27/2011 10:34:37 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Dansong

“Woo Hoo, Thats a fake raght there!!! I guaranteeeee!!!”

;-)


910 posted on 04/27/2011 10:34:51 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Fawn

I’ve asked this before but did he not state he was born as Barry in his book and was named Barry at school when young?

If so then how can this form have Barack on it?

doesn’t make sense does it and he still cannot answer why was this sealed with all other records.


911 posted on 04/27/2011 10:35:18 AM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Sure. That and then some:

I believe the Constitution does not define the term “natural born Citizen.”

I believe we need a definitive ruling from the SCOTUS on the definition of “natural born Citizen.”

I believe that the FF intended “natural born Citizen” to mean a child born on U.S. soil to U.S. citizen parents.

I don’t believe we’ll ever get a ruling on Obama’s NBC status while he’s in office.

I would accept a ruling from the SCOTUS that said Obama is a natural born Citizen.

Was that what you wanted? Did I leave out anything?


912 posted on 04/27/2011 10:36:01 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: PowerPro
I'm no digital document expert, but I sent this private reply to someone upthread regarding what I think you're describing:

Re: CNN via BREAKING on Drudge: White House releases Obama birth certificate To KarlInOhio | 04/27/2011 9:19:56 AM PDT sent You seem to have some knowledge on computer generated and/or manipulated files. I noticed when I refreshed the image that all the green background shows up with a little bit of the black text here and there, but most of the text shows as white, then when it’s done reloading all the black text shows up. Is that normal?

I was able to get a screen capture of it just prior to it generating the rest of the black text.

913 posted on 04/27/2011 10:37:03 AM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: manc
did he not state in his book he was named Barry but later changed his name to Barack later on in his life?

Perhaps he meant that's what he wanted people to call him. Like one day somebody wants to be called "Ed" instead of "Eddie."

914 posted on 04/27/2011 10:37:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: paul revere is riding

Footprint is on an actual birth certificate.


915 posted on 04/27/2011 10:37:47 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: RedWhiteBlue
What jumps out at me is that the O's in both Oahu's are not in line with the rest of the word, they are a little high. However, in OBAMA, which is all in caps, the O is perfectly in line with the rest of the word.

OR ELSE THE TYPIST USED THE CAPS LOCK KEY because the whole line was capitalized instead of having to move the whole rack of letter arms with her pinky on the shift key.

We've gotten so used to word processors and laser printers that we've forgotten just how crappy typewritten pages looked, especially on manual typewriters.

916 posted on 04/27/2011 10:38:54 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: tsowellfan
It would not have been released today if it weren't for the birthers. From what I recall a lot of people were insisting to the "birthers" that Obama's Birth Certificate was released long ago. Those are the people with eggs on their face not the birthers. Today, Obama proved them right and the Karl Roves of the nation wrong.

Birther have been exposed as the conspiracy nuts they were accused of being!!! Birthers celebrate win!!!

917 posted on 04/27/2011 10:40:12 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: BuckeyeTexan
scanned/photographed data into a 2011 version of the Certificate of Live Birth form and printed it on the modern-day, green security paper

If they did that, why would there be white spaces around the lettering? There should only be black ink on top of green security paper (no printer prints in white).

918 posted on 04/27/2011 10:40:58 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Persevero
I'm EXTREMELY disappointed. I'm disappointed that the C-I-C of the United States military didn't have the DECENCY to cough up this document when Lt. Cmdr. Lakin questioned his eligibility rather than letting him go through a thoroughly unfair trial, sentencing and imprisonment. Lakin was ONLY DOING WHAT HE SWORE TO DO.
919 posted on 04/27/2011 10:41:34 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: little jeremiah; Mr Rogers; danamco
Two 19th century Supreme Court cases disagree with you as well:

Minor v. Happersett (1874)

The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898)

The constitution nowhere defines the meaning of these words [citizen and natural born citizen], either by way of inclusion or of exclusion, except in so far as this is done by the affirmative declaration that 'all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States....It thus clearly appears that by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country, and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, and the jurisdiction of the English sovereign; and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject, unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign state, or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born. The same rule was in force in all the English colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the constitution as originally established.

920 posted on 04/27/2011 10:43:10 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Roos_Girl
I saw the same thing on the redraw. The PDF file consists of (at least) 9 different images. See 907 for a listing. If I find someplace easy to put them (photobucket has become a nuisance), I'll post the 9 images I extracted.
921 posted on 04/27/2011 10:43:28 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: manc

No, he wasn’t named Barry, he used Barry as a shortned, anglicized form of Barack until Barack served him better.


922 posted on 04/27/2011 10:43:38 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: liberalh8ter

bookmark


923 posted on 04/27/2011 10:43:43 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: hoosiermama

You are way off on this one. Sure, Dutch traders went through Kenya, just like Portuguese traders did, but Kenya was not colonized by Europeans until the Imperial British East Africa Company arrived in 1887; the British government itself took over in 1895 when it formed the East Africa Protectorate, and Kenya was a British colony continuously until independence in 1962. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kenya#Colonial_history Kenyan law is not based on Dutch law; Kenyan law is based on the English Common Law: http://www.usig.org/countryinfo/kenya.asp

Just because Dutch-descended Boers in South Africa used the term “Afrikan” as a racial term does not mean that the use of “African” as a racial term in Kenya is a legacy of Dutch colonialism.


924 posted on 04/27/2011 10:44:24 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: All
I right-click copied and pasted into WORD, as described above. Very weird:


925 posted on 04/27/2011 10:46:13 AM PDT by BushMeister ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Birther have been exposed for knowing that Obama did not release his birth certificate and the very release of that document today proved the birthers right and their critics wrong. Period!

It’s time to talk about the economy.


926 posted on 04/27/2011 10:46:33 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: DCBryan1
Okay some of you here help out on this.
It seems to me I read recently that in the 1960’s, 70’s and maybe 80’s, it was relatively easy to get a birth certificate stating you were born in Hawaii.
Now was it a Certificate of Live Birth like released today or something else? Obama could have cleared this up a long time ago so why now?
I would say that the the truth Obama is spinning and the real truth are two different things.
927 posted on 04/27/2011 10:47:43 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood (.)
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To: FarRightFanatic

““Why is her name listed as Stanley Ann Dunham Obama?? Were they married?”

And why is her name printed as Stanley Ann Dunham, but her “signature” is Stanley Ann Dunham Obama?

How do we find marriage records/name change records from Hawaii in 1961?”

—Interesting observation. They were supposedly married in Feb., 1961 I believe but I haven’t seen an official record of it.


928 posted on 04/27/2011 10:48:34 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert
““Why is her name listed as Stanley Ann Dunham Obama?? Were they married?”

And why is her name printed as Stanley Ann Dunham, but her “signature” is Stanley Ann Dunham Obama?

Line 13 is "Full Maiden Name of Mother".

929 posted on 04/27/2011 10:51:03 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: Pyro7480

Wrong. Minor didn’t TRY to deal with NBC, because that wasn’t an issue.

WKA did deal with the issue, and as you point out, decided that a person born with two alien parents is indeed a natural born citizen, and thus a citizen. They used the same argument as was used in the case I cited from 1844 (and which they cited with approval).

The 1844 case goes into greater detail, showing the colonies that used natural born subject in their laws prior to the Revolution changed them to natural born citizen after the Revolution, and thus the meaning of NBS carries over into the meaning of NBC.


930 posted on 04/27/2011 10:51:57 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: Fantasywriter

I suggest we make the commercials anyway.

If it turns out to be a false document, is Obama or his minions going to go to the press saying “They are lying about Larkin, we didn’t produce the BC.”


931 posted on 04/27/2011 10:52:27 AM PDT by Gvl_M3
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To: eraser2005

“Incorrect.
You get US citizenship at birth if you are born in this country, regardless of where the parents are from.”

Not in 1961. Laws have changed since but in 1961 the laws were different.


932 posted on 04/27/2011 10:53:04 AM PDT by rlferny
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To: palmer

Invalid question. Of course printers don’t print white. That’s not the point. Think of it this way. Where there is supposed to be white, a printer will not print black ink.


933 posted on 04/27/2011 10:53:28 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: JoeProBono

RE: Harp Seals

Where’s my baseball bat!?!

Cheers


934 posted on 04/27/2011 10:53:38 AM PDT by DoctorBulldog (A lot of people probably just negated my comment while I was hunting and pecking at the keyboard!)
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To: ConservativeDude
"“IF” this is a fake"

The only way they could convince me this is a real BC is if it says born in Kenya & nursed on the tit of a Jackal!

935 posted on 04/27/2011 10:54:06 AM PDT by FW190
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To: KarlInOhio

And the marriage documents are where?


936 posted on 04/27/2011 10:54:29 AM PDT by BB62
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To: Mr Rogers
WKA did deal with the issue, and as you point out, decided that a person born with two alien parents is indeed a natural born citizen, and thus a citizen.

So why were you saying in your original reply that I was wrong? I only have one alien parent who was born in the Philippines when it was an American territory.

937 posted on 04/27/2011 10:54:54 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: KarlInOhio

Is that normal for PDFs to do that in a redraw?


938 posted on 04/27/2011 10:55:41 AM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: tsowellfan

Nope, it is still a fake


939 posted on 04/27/2011 10:55:43 AM PDT by chilepup
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I believe that the FF intended “natural born Citizen” to mean a child born on U.S. soil to U.S. citizen parents.

That's the crux of the issue. I too feel that was their intent. I hope SCOTUS rules on that once and for all and the states keep pursuing the eligibility bills so this mess doesn't happen down the road.

940 posted on 04/27/2011 10:56:26 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: PowerPro
The Nordyke twins Certificate of Live Birth has the wording:
“This certifies that the above is a true and correct copy of the Original record or file in the research, planning and statistics office Hawaii State Department of Health.”
Charles G. Bennett Register General

The Booth certificate says:
“This certifies that the above is a true and correct copy of the original record on file in the Bureau of Health Statistics, Territory of Hawaii Department of Health”
Signature not legible
Deputy Registrar General Date 12-14-50

Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth released today says
“I certify this is a true or abstract copy of txe Record on file in the Hawaii State Department of Health”
Alvin T. Onaka, Ph.d. Apr 25 2011
State Registrar

I wonder when the stamp was changed to “ABSTRACT” from “CORRECT” and why this one wasn't certified with a raised seal.(Also the "the" is misspelled to "txe" in the stamp, which is strange)

“Abstract” may be a very recent change. This may be why the Hawaiian Department of Health says the long form is no longer available.

I'm going to assume Obama’s is an “ABSTRACT” since the long form is no longer available.

941 posted on 04/27/2011 10:56:33 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: BushMeister

Man that is scary, scary scary.
I am not computer whiz at all, I don’t know how that shows up from something that is from computer screen.
SCARY!!!!!!!!!!
I am SCARED for my country, the country where my ancestors shed their blood for and on in wars and in building this nation.
GOD above please help us out of this mess.
Melissa


942 posted on 04/27/2011 10:56:33 AM PDT by mel (o fFR monthly...Do You?????)
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To: Tatze

Question: Assuming the pages all came from the same stack, and assuming the 61 numbers were printed on the pages, why does thd number 6 not align identically unter the small print “state department above the numbers?


943 posted on 04/27/2011 10:57:22 AM PDT by Desparado
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To: BushMeister

Of course, I am gullible to your post also, it could be something yo just made up. I don’t know you from adam, but i think what you are posting is real. thanks
Melissa


944 posted on 04/27/2011 10:58:01 AM PDT by mel (o fFR monthly...Do You?????)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
I’ve got an idea. How about you log off of FR and go to Democratic Underground where they actually accept people who stubbornly refuse to accept reality. It’s over. The fat lady is singing the funeral dirge of the democrat-fueled birther movement.

What the hell is the matter with you? You don't care about the Constitution? It doesn't matter to you that this Manchurian candidate in the the WH?

I got news for you. It's people like you on this side of the aisle that are the reason we are in the mess we're in. IOW, YOUR PART OF THE PROBLEM. Even a retarded blind gay monkey with a lisp could see the problems with this. What's your excuse?
945 posted on 04/27/2011 11:00:12 AM PDT by Khepri (Change -- How's that working for yah?)
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To: Pyro7480

In my original reply, I wrote:

“Well, in 1844 you would have been eligible, but in 2008 a new legal principle was discovered - ignore the law and worship Vattel.”

I was being sarcastic, since many birthers dumped all legal rulings and started claiming - in 2008 - that someone with an alien parent could not become President.

I then posted a link to a well thought out legal decision, made in 1844 concerning inheriting property, that explained in detail WHY a natural born citizen of the US can have zero, one, or two citizen parents.


946 posted on 04/27/2011 11:00:17 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: savedbygrace

“Notes from the constitutional debates show that the delegates understood the meaning of Natural Born Citizen to be a person with two parents who are/were U. S. citizens.”

Which would make sense. Giving families at least one generation to live her and understand the ideals of the country. That is why you have to study U. S. history to become a naturalized citizen.


947 posted on 04/27/2011 11:01:35 AM PDT by rlferny
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To: Desparado

Sorry, I meant the small print- Department of Health, above the number 61


948 posted on 04/27/2011 11:01:47 AM PDT by Desparado
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To: tsowellfan; Tex-Con-Man
Be careful of the trolls you deal with on this forum. I even had one Freeper today tell me Obama has been telling the truth the whole time

Gee. I wonder what kind of Obama-bot believes that!

949 posted on 04/27/2011 11:02:01 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A Birther: One who has questions or concerns over the birth of Barry Barack Hussein Soetero Obama)
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To: Gvl_M3

The commercials will be made. Obama has NO idea how angry and heartsick millions of Americans already are over his treatment of Lakin—and how many millions more will be when they find out about him. [Sorry, MSM; your news embargo is about to come to a close.] Barry is too narcissistic to have any idea how he affects others. He’s about to find out.


950 posted on 04/27/2011 11:02:27 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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