Posted on 11/06/2015 9:37:06 AM PST by ifinnegan
I never thought I'd see the day when Freepers let the lying leftist media lead them around by the nose.
I am a Cruz supporter. I also like Trump and Carson.
Politico is doing a massive distortion smear on Carson, typical of the leftist media machine. They are very sophisticated at using lies and distortion and making it seem based on truth and objective analysis.
If one wants to accept the leftist narrative and run with the leftist pack because it feels god, so be it.
Yet don't cry when the same is done to Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, and it will be done to these two.
If you don't like Carson, let it be for real reasons.
Same with Trump or Cruz.
Of course they are.
The problem is that Carson’s campaign ADMITTED he lied.
And that is the issue.
for later
Not gonna happen. At least not in the primaries when people are supporting different candidates and part of the key to the nomination is seeing the field cut down. Human nature here, people realize a lot of this is about last man/woman standing.
>> If you don’t like Carson, let it be for real reasons.
OK.
Would lying about applying to and being accepted by West Point be one of those?
How about holding seventh-day-Adventist pacifist views, expressed during a debate on national teevee?
Or, rejecting history and “arguing from silence in Scripture”, claiming that Egyptian pyramids were used to store grain rather than as tombs for Pharaohs?
And can I dislike Carson because of his very public gun-grabbing views?
How about for participating in a scheme to defraud based upon a flawed and ineffective diet supplement?
Or... ah, I think that’s enough for now. Are those all OK reasons to reject Dr. Carson?
Umm, yeah, on the surface this seems to be a pretty big lie. If it is true that Carson blatantly lied about something like this, he is going to lose a lot of support. The question is where that support goes.
Politico is the first place the rinos go to leak or stage a sneak attack. Politico is owned by establishment on both sides.
Moral scolding fail.
Carson’s campaign has already conceded the story in his book was false.
This has rino fingerprints all over it. This is friendly fire.
Here's a lie: I went to Cornell University. (I didn't.)
Here's a factual mix-up: I was offered a scholarship to Cornell.
In reality, I talked to the Cornell folks after high school, and was told I was a good candidate for a science scholarship.
It's possible that I could get that a little mixed up later. That's what I think happened with Carson.
The campaign admitted he LIED!! What are we SUPPOSED tobelieve??
Carson’s campaign confirmed the West Point scholarship lie.
This is serious, and IMO, borders on Stolen Valor.
“The problem is that Carson’s campaign ADMITTED he lied.”
Not true.
This is the diabolical part of it.
They acknowledged Politico’s distortion of what was in Carson’s book was not true.
Politico went and did two things:
1) They actually verified the event with Westmoreland and Medal winners in Detroit and provided the actual date it happened which was wrong, apparently, in the book.
That was fail one on Politico’s part. Carson, understandably, didn’t remember exactly the date and wrongly said it happened at a Memorial Day event. Politico, looking for dirt, was able to pick up on that but it backfired a bit when they did at the same time they tried to discredit Carson and make it look like Carson never even attended such an event, found that indeed that event did happen.
They actually verified Carson in trying to call smear him as a fabricator.
2) They did a thorough search of the Academy’s records (who do you think was helping them get access to nearly fifty year old applications?) for something that was not claimed in the book.
This is the classic lie-based straw man. Politico can use their leftist allies in the military hierarchy to pull up all this information on applicants of fifty years ago, not find Carson, then say this is a smoking gun proving a lie, when in actual fact Carson never said he applied to the school or for a scholarship.
“Here’s a factual mix-up: I was offered a scholarship to Cornell.
In reality, I talked to the Cornell folks after high school, and was told I was a good candidate for a science scholarship.
It’s possible that I could get that a little mixed up later. That’s what I think happened with Carson.”
Except no one at West Point has a record of even speaking with Carson on the matter!
>> Here’s a lie... Here’s a factual mix-up
A little bird didn’t swoop in and drop that “factual mix-up” into Carson’s book. Carson (or his ghost writer) PUT IT IN ON PURPOSE — because it SERVED a purpose. In this case it made Carson look good.
Some candidates don’t have problems with these (as you parse them) “factual mix-ups” because they are CAREFUL not to “mix up” their facts. In other words, they work hard to eliminate claims that are not true.
Ted Cruz has never been caught in a “factual mix-up” — let alone a lie — because he is not guilty of using them.
Good thing we started out with 25 candidates because the way the wagons are set on fire by our side inside of circling them like the f’ing democrats do we might have a candidate to put up against the Clinton Crime Family. Then again we might not.
I agree. A teenager can be talked to about a full scholarship and take it one way, and the organization not consider it as a FORMAL offer.
So a “fabrication” is also a way of saying a misunderstanding OR a lie....Carson’s character certainly shows him to be a man of high moral fiber.
Politico has never been interested in Obama’s past. Pathetic.
Boy, Rush is really stretching it today to cover for what Ben Carson said about West Point story. No one even knows if what Carson said of his conversation with Westmoreland ever occurred. No way to prove it even took place, other than Carson’s word for it, just like what he says about his earlier “attacks” by hammer, and knife on ficticious named people, now stated to be his relatives who won’t talk about the incidents, conveniently.
All stories are based on what Carson himself says without any ability of the public to verify the truth of his statements. Smells to high heaven, and I don’t know why Rush is trying to cover for him, at Rush’s own peril if more comes out about this that shows Carson to have exaggerated or outright lied.
I’d agree, but maybe Carson’s supporters don’t care?
I don’t think either Carson or Trump would make good nominees and believe they both frequently say things that are absurd, ridiculous, etc, but so far supporters of those candidates don’t seem to care what they say.
For all we know Carson could just say it was a mistake, he will ask God for forgiveness, and move along with his book tour. His supporters may accept that. Heck it is even possible that any candidate that attacks him too hard over this gets damaged along the way.
The regular rules don’t apply to this campaign yet. They most likely will, eventually, but right now people like who they like and not much sways them.
I’d like to know who found this out and why now?
I think this would be quite interesting.
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