Posted on 01/27/2016 1:21:16 PM PST by Kaslin
Who cares? We are in a war with the Marxist globalists and we are at war with Islam and we are losing both wars. The country needs a leader that is unabashedly an American first. A leader that will defend America, rebuild the military, secure the border, defend Christianity, bring back manufacturing jobs and deport illegals. Prior to Trump getting in, NO ONE was talking about any of these things. NO ONE.
If we do not fix immigration this election cycle the country is done, the constitution is dead and we the people are screwed. That is why we the people are getting behind Trump. It got zero to do with right/left. It's survival.
I guess is Phyllis Schlafly is not a conservative either. Trump is 'last hope for America'. Some people can see the forest thru the trees others like these "Consistent Conservatives" can't.
Wow. You’re certainly chugging the Kool-Aid Trump’s serving. Yes, you’re on the right track. But Trump is NOT a guy we can trust to do any of that. He’s a chameleon and tickling your ears.
As for Phyllis Schlafly, the woman is deceived.
So now we are throwing Phyllis Schlafly under the bus? Wow, Phyllis Schlafly is the mother of modern conservatism (Reagan being the father) you should be ashamed of yourself.
‘Pro-conservative does not mean pro-American.’
Interesting. I think conservatism is patriotic. But some are more mistrustful than others, suspicious of converts.
‘America First’ means ‘patriotic’.
Trump doesn’t think he needs rock-ribbed conservative support. He’s unifying patriotism.
Does that mean he won’t be conservative?
He has made low-key assurances to conservatives. Take it or leave it.
Phyllis Schlafly is not infallible.
She threw herself under the bus when she endorsed the con-man snake oil salesman that is Trump.
‘Read Cruz’s plan. He says he is for fully enforcing the immigration laws thru deportations and removals.’
That would be excellent, especially when automatic plate readers would cause illegals to cram themselves into a few vehicles to carpool [and make themselves conspicuous] ...
APR Tech Could Cheaply Wipe Out Most Illegal Immigration
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3374794/posts
But why is it that Senator Jeff Sessions is working more closely with Trump than with Cruz?
Is Trump a monster? That would mean the following:
[Adding new ones to the top of the list ...]
9. Sheriff Joe Arpio is being duped.
10. Will Robertson [Duck Dynasty] is being duped despite his father’s support for Cruz.
[Now the earlier ones ...]
1. Hannity is in on it.
2. Rush is in on it.
3. Herman Cain is in on it.
4. Top Sessions Aide Joins Trump Campaign
5. Phyllis Schlafly is being duped.
6. Jerry Falwell, Jr is being duped.
7. Michael Savage, probably the most paranoid anti-establishment talk radio host around, is also being duped.
8. And last but not least — Sarah Palin is ‘in on it’.
While I'm concerned about Trump's statements above that he'd "make deals" .... here's the questions I keep asking myself:
Would Donald Trump make worse deals than the Republican Establishment and the Republican Party hacks infesting Washington DC have made in the past?
I think clearly the answer to that question is a resounding NO! The Republican Party led by Boehner/McConnell/Ryan and now Ryan/McConnell have simply caved and given Obama everything he's wanted. (The sole exception is voting against Obamacare, and even then the GOP-E seemed to make damn' sure it came to the floor in the House and Senate for a vote, a vote they knew they'd lose!)
Would Donald Trump have negotiated TPP in its current form? I think the answer to that question is a resounding NO! as well. To think how the GOP-E rolled over and ceded their Constitutional responsibilities and let Obama have his way with them just sickens me to my stomach. They did EVERYTHING they could to simply give Obama the worst trade deal ever made, and inflict that on America.
Would Donald Trump make a worse deal than Paul Ryan did in the House of Representatives giving Obama every last penny he wanted (and more!) in the last appropriation extension which included full funding for Planned Parenthood?
I don't know about this one. Trump may have negotiated a harder bargain on the appropriation extension and the budget overall, but fully funding PP? I don't know. His history on abortion indicates he'd fund PP, his "conversion" on the issue says he wouldn't. I simply don't know here. To fully know I'd have to question his heart and I'm in no position to do that.
If you can answer these three questions, and you start getting to the answer of what kind of President Donald Trump would be.
Tell me, “What does conservatism mean any more.” We supposedly elected “conservatives” to congress the last time around and what did that get us?
Conservatism has become simply a label and not a principle these days. Not too sure I want to carry that label ant more. When it becomes a shield to hide behind I don’t think it has any real meaning. Too many running for the office bandy the words around and don’t even know what it supposed to be.
More like I’m simply applying the same standards to your favored candidate as you’re applying to mine. That was what this entire flame war was about. Me applying the same standards to Cruz that you’re applying to Trump. And you HATED it.
I know that Trump is no immaculate saint. It would give you much more respect if you were to admit that Cruz isn’t either.
The fact of the matter is that Cruz has been weak in words and deeds on immigration in the past, and treating him as some kind of conservative messiah only hurts him all the more when the news comes out about his past support of globalist garbage, his past votes, and his current language.
He is still better than Hillary or Bernie. Still better than Bush or Rubio. But the more you treat him as perfect instead of acknowledging his flaws and argue that he’s still the best candidate in spite of them, the less people will listen to you, and the weaker he’ll get.
Which has sort of been proven with his collapsing support lately...
What ever, with any candidate other than Trump we get amnesty and we lose the country. Every other candidate, despite what they say now, is for amnesty. If they say they are not for amnesty they are lying.
I guess we’ll see what happens in the future, won’t we?
Incidentally, most of what I posted yesterday was simply applying the same standards to Cruz as many of his most intense supporters apply to Trump. You didn’t like it, did you? How d’you think that we like it?
Treating Cruz as some kind of immaculate conservative messiah isn’t helping him. It’s more breeding resentment with those who don’t support him. On the opposite side, I’ve found that people who agree that Trump is flawed but support him anyway tend to get a better reception and actually sway people more (at least after the initial lines have been drawn) than those who are fanatics.
But you have your views, and I have mine. And the way things are going, n’er the twain shall meet.
Expose the Republican party for what it is, let it wither and die, and replace it with a party that actually serves its constituency.
If Hannity, Rush and Cain are “in on it,” apparently I am, too. Because they’ve done little more than acknowledge Trump’s candidacy has served to shake up the establishment.
The endorsements have been disappointing. If they’re not being “duped,” they hope to gain something by hitching their wagons to that wild horse.
I never said Cruz was perfect. I've criticized Cruz on a couple of votes. Why set up this strawman? I'll give more respect to you if you don't do that.
The fact of the matter is that Cruz has been weak in words and deeds on immigration in the past, and treating him as some kind of conservative messiah only hurts him all the more when the news comes out about his past support of globalist garbage, his past votes, and his current language.
Cruz's 2013 words in that video are weak. Cruz and Sessions claim that he was simply setting up his poison pill amendments. One can believe what that want about that.
In 2015, during the campaign, Trump's words, numerous times, have been awful on amnesty. Are you even aware of that?
I already apply the same standards to Cruz, Trump and every other politician. That’s why I like Cruz. He passes all the tests with flying colors beyond any other candidate. When Cruz first ran for the Senate I was very skeptical of a Texas candidate becoming a national standard-bearer for the conservative cause. Sometimes they can be tone-deaf to the rest of the country’s sensibilities. But within a year or two he totally won me over. He doesn’t seem like a regional figure, but like a true national leader for the country who speaks with profound eloquence and conviction on all the issues that matter to me.
I have NEVER seen you criticize Cruz on anything. But then again, I’m not omniscient. Okay, I’ll accept that you’ve done so, and if I owe you an apology, so be it.
I’m not gonna argue this any more. At least not on this thread. We’ve both heard and rejected pretty much every argument that the other person can make anyways.
I would like to agree that we have the same goals, politic-wise. But I think that the difference is that I’m a cynical bastard more often than not, and so during those times I’m supporting the guy who will have the power to follow through and do it just because of his own ego and to secure his legacy.
I want to like them both, and I want to like people on FR. I like myself better when I think the best of people and am not a cynical bastard. Ain’t easy.
Okay, that’s enough rambling on my part.
‘If Hannity, Rush and Cain are ‘in on it,’ apparently I am, too.’
I’m in on it too. The Vast Trump-Wing Conspiracy.
FRegards ....
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