Posted on 01/27/2016 1:21:16 PM PST by Kaslin
Trump was painted anti-establishment because the establishment did not want him in the race. They wanted Bush to win or Christie or Rubio. Someone they can easily control, one to “payback the donors” etc.
Trump is a different breed. He is his own person, he does not care what lobbyist A wants or what Lobbyist B wants, he owes them nothing. That is the difference.
However recently some “establishment types” are now publically backing Trump, why? Because they see the train leaving the station and they don’t want to be left out. They know that if they say things now that are positive or beneficial to Trump, he might return their calls if does get in the White House.
That is how I look at it. Could Trump do a 180 and do exactly the opposite of what he has promised? He could, the republicans did that and what repercussions did they face?
I see Trump as an elder Statesman who wants to fix a broken system. He is doing this for the history books, He is already wealthy, he has smart children and they will inherit a well run Real Estate business. So I don’t see him as doing this to gain a financial advantage.
Is he a liberal? Is he a conservative? I say he is neither, I say he is a nationalist, he is putting America first, and I like that.
I subscribed to Commentary during the run up to Iraq, when the term “Neocon” was in full use. I recall no such predilection for lawbreaking.
Medved is Establishment Boehner, IMO, less Neocon pro interventionist. Medved is clearly pro-law-breaking.
Praeger was clearly a lead Neocon. I haven’t listened to him in a long time. When I did listen, I never heard pro-law-breaking.
So, even with these two, I see difference.
When I see thanks for playing I know there is no chance of actual decision or debate.
Trump wants a touchback amnesty.
Too big to fail
Too big to fail was Trump's position on the Bank and Auto bailouts.
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-case-for-more-immigration/
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-realities-of-immigration/
Anti-establishment might just do for a start, given the corrupt, feckless, flaccid, mendacious, complacent, and lame state to which the establishment has sunk.
I wonder what position Trump would have to take to lose his supporters?
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I wonder what Cruz would have to vote for to get his supporters to rethink him.
I mean, he already voted on cloture for TPA, supported HB-1 increases, and was for amnes—pardon me, immigration reform before he was against it. But not REALLY against it because he can’t even bring himself to use the word ‘deport.’
Not to mention a so-called constitutional conservative voting to give away the Senate’s treaty power.
And certain people still call him the only conservative in the race. Makes ya think.
Still trying to figure out why Trump is viewed as the savior for stealing all of Cruz’ positions on Obamacare, Gang of 8, etc. when Cruz had them first.
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Because Cruz was too much of a coward to make them a campaign issue. He just timidly accepted what the RNC and the media commanded of him.
And then along came Trump, and BOOM, they’re all out in the open. Trump took all the flack, all the attacks, all the heat, and Cruz was still hiding behind him, going ‘Yeah, me too!’ without actually having any skin in the game.
Cruz had the field to himself for a long time; he had the chance to make a bold stand and do what Trump did. He didn’t even try.
Even IF your screaming about ‘touchback amnesty’ is true, which I sincerely doubt, then Trump’s plan on the worst day is still better than Cruz’s on the best day.
Trump’s plan at worst: We send them out; they come back in and have to get legally registered to do so.
Cruz’s plan at best: We don’t even send them out. Dude can’t even use the word ‘deport’ to save his campaign.
Yeah, like Cruz is soooo much better.
Even IF your screaming about 'touchback amnesty' is true, which I sincerely doubt, then Trump's plan on the worst day is still better than Cruz's on the best day.
You're not right. Read Cruz's plan. He says he is for fully enforcing the immigration laws thru deportations and removals.
Trump wants' to deport but he wants to "expedite the good ones back". That's a touchback legalization amnesty.
Caps lock and bold face does not make a false assertion true.
I’ve read Cruz’s plan. It’s even weaker than touchback amnesty, and you’re between assuming the worst and outright lying about Trump’s intentions anyways.
And no matter how much you kvetch, you can’t change that.
Deal with it.
As Cruz said on Hannity tonight, Trump is still for touchback amnesty, letting illegals briefly return home before they get to come back as presumably full citizens. Trump is an amnesty candidate.
Cruz and Jeff Sessions just came out with a plan to drastically cut back the H1B program.
No one cares about your nitpicking a handful of piddling, meaningless Senate votes when Cruz is a guy who is staunchly Christian, pro-life, anti-Obamacare, wants to defund Planned Parenthood, patriotic, believes in a strong military, does not support the NSA violating the Constitution, supports gun rights, supports a flat tax, has great originalist picks for court justices, etc. Cruz is straight down-the-line conservative and always has been. He is the only sane choice in this election.
Trump went boom because he got in a media firestorm over equating Mexican illegal immigrants with rapists. And that’s the kind of loose, unnecessarily controversial talk that will be a much bigger issue in the general election, compiled in ads by Democrats and quickly sink his chances of winning.
You’re spewing a total crock. Cruz’ plan says it will deport illegals explicitly. His page uses the term “deport” at least a dozen times.
https://www.tedcruz.org/cruz-immigration-plan/
Enforce the law: Restore our commitment to enforcement and public safety and the Rule of Law by rededicating DHS to fully enforcing the law, including through deportations and returns.
Good article.
I didn't use caps so don't lie. Bold face is simply used as a different font to mark what I said in a previous post.
I've read Cruz's plan. It's even weaker than touchback amnesty, and you're between assuming the worst and outright lying about Trump's intentions anyways.
No. you're between naive and outright lying about Trump. He wants to expedite them back in. Trump doesn't even correct people when they say that Trump wants a touchback amnesty.
Cruz mentions deportation over-and-over again in his plan. Trump only mentions it two or three times.
In his plan Cruz says that he wants to fully enforce the immigration laws thru deportations and removals. And then he goes into detail about how he would facilitate that.
You have no idea where the two candidates stand on illegal immigration. And apparently you aren't able to argue the specifics.
All you have to do is look at how Trump deals with Fox News to realize that Trump does things his way. He either gets a “good deal” for the American people or he walks. BTW you left out of your Trump quote there is said re the establishment “I’m not sure this is a good thing”. He wasn’t happy that about getting all those calls.
Trump does not a deal to enforce existing immigration laws (deport illegals). Trump does not a deal to suspend Muslim immigration to the USA. Trump does not a deal to repatriate recent refugees. Trump does not a deal to build the wall. Trump does not a deal to partner with Russia and go after ISIS. As president of the USA Trump has all the authority he needs to do all of the above. Doing all of the above would make him a great president anything else he does is gravy.
He would drop to 1% in the polls. Trump built his campaign on enforcing immigration laws and securing the border. He is the only candidate to do so, all the others seeing his success on those issues are now "me too" candidates and not credible.
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