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Yeah, yeah, I know: "Trump is playing 4-D chess...he's laying a trap for the democrats to defend due process by attacking the constitution....he wasn't really insulting the NRA....he's throwing away national reciprocity so he can negotiate it after 2020....blah...blah..."

Wake up, people.

If there's a plan here, it's Ivanka's. She got to him, probably in an effort to distract us from Jared's latest mess and Trump, being a rich city boy with bodyguards, never really understood the Second Amendment in the first place.

1 posted on 03/01/2018 7:56:17 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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Always been concerned about her influence on Dad. I mean she is supposedly buddies with chelsea so that alone should bring into question her judgement.


2 posted on 03/01/2018 7:59:34 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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Unilaterally banning bump stocks via executive order is unconstitutional and it sure as heck isn’t 4D chess.


3 posted on 03/01/2018 8:03:27 AM PST by linear (The truth brooks no arbiters.)
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Trump, being a rich city boy with bodyguards, never really understood the Second Amendment in the first place.

I thought of this as well.

4 posted on 03/01/2018 8:03:34 AM PST by MarMema
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I’m a big fan of the NRA. But I had lunch with them — with Wayne and Chris and David, on Sunday — and said, “It’s time.” We got to stop this nonsense. It’s time.

For us to let the democrats eat you alive?

7 posted on 03/01/2018 8:08:49 AM PST by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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I’m getting real tired of this “rope-a-dope” and “4D chess” bullshit explanation/defense for everything Trump’s doing. It’s pretty clear that he’s leaning toward “universal” background checks, which means that, in order to sell or give a gun - any gun - to my kids, I have to run them through a background check and get the government’s permission. Didn’t Cruz got permission from the government to guy a gun? Once again, we’re being presented with a “solution” that will affect ONLY law-abiding citizens and NOT criminals.

The NRA and the vast majority of its members, myself included, supported and helped initiate the NICS, which is only as good as the information fed into it by the states, which is NOT comprehensive. There are a number of states that fail to report disqualifying information to the FBI, which administers the NICS system. In Cruz’s case, the school, county, and local police should have charged him with various crimes and he should have been reported for mental health issues, which would have resulted in his disqualification to purchase a firearm. They did not - and primarily due to a federal program that tied funding to a decrease in crime. In the case of Broward County and Parkland, crime didn’t decrease, they just stopped arresting and reporting people like Cruz so it looked like crime was going down. Again, in Cruz’s case, local citizens reported his behavior in accordance with what they were asked to do; when they “saw something”, they said something, but the FBI was too busy to do anything about it.

The bottom line is that the Parkland shooting was not only allowed, but facilitated by bad policy and utter incompetence and ineptitude at every level of government.
The government’s answer - as it always is, restrict the freedom of law-abiding citizens so everyone feels good, but only for a while, until those policies and laws, like the ones that preceded them, also fail. There are over 20,000 “common sense” gun laws on the books in the United States, but we haven’t gotten to common sense yet. Legislate, rinse, repeat. The one thing government is really good at? Making criminals out of law-abiding citizens and, increasingly in our case, not citizens, but subjects.


8 posted on 03/01/2018 8:08:59 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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I’ll link both the video and the transcript so everyone here can verify the context and truth of these six “insane” moments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QI6gT7zxXg

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-bipartisan-members-congress-meeting-school-community-safety/


10 posted on 03/01/2018 8:11:05 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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CW2 on its way. And, I’m afraid it will be a shootin’ war!


15 posted on 03/01/2018 8:16:27 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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This author put it best after that gun grabbing meeting

As for Trump loyalists… well they only had a few possible routes to take. They could say “he doesn’t really mean it”, they could say “he has a point you know”, or they could say “hmm? Gun meeting? No, I didn’t hear about that, hey have you seen Black Panther?”

Sorry Trumpists, But We Didn’t Make Trump Attack Guns And Gun Owners, He Chose To (Posted on March 1, 2018 by Caleb Howe)

Yep, reading all three in comments here at FR.

16 posted on 03/01/2018 8:16:52 AM PST by sickoflibs (David Hogg calls the shots in the WH now)
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Mr. Trump stepped on his d*** yesterday. Better fix it - and fast.

And get rid of Sessions while you’re at it, Mr. President. You and your Presidency stand at the precipice.


17 posted on 03/01/2018 8:19:20 AM PST by TTFlyer
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Be prepared to be called a liar, a wacky-bird, a traitor and a Hillary supporter by the “Trump walks on water” crowd.

We’re not allowed to voice dissent when it comes to President Trump’s all-knowing political acumen.


18 posted on 03/01/2018 8:24:55 AM PST by moovova
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Y’all think that Cruz would have gone this route?


19 posted on 03/01/2018 8:26:39 AM PST by Washi (DGYHU)
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Trump does to the left what Lucy did to Charlie Brown with the football. These gun control proposals will go nowhere in congress and Trump knows it, just like DACA.

But in the interim, the left will introduce full Assault Weapons bans, and make noise, the NRA will increase funding and membership (already up 500,000), and all the lazy-asses who would have sat out the nov 2018 vote will show up and give Trump a more Republican congress.

This is just like DACA. We can and should complain, but there is no reason to lose faith in the Trump until something bad passes, which I am pretty sure it won’t.


22 posted on 03/01/2018 8:32:49 AM PST by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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Trump is a patriot thru and thru. Fighting battles on all sides with one hand tied. God bless President Donald J Trump.


23 posted on 03/01/2018 8:33:40 AM PST by hotsteppa
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You don’t understand Trump any better than the MSM does.

Make it easy on yourself - don’t pay attention to what he says. Words are negotiating tools, they are used and tossed aside as needed. Pay attention to what he DOES.

Has he done anything that supports all your pearl-clutching? No. He’s accomplished an amazing 60%+ of his agenda in one year.

People who know Trump take him seriously but not literally. People who don’t know Trump take him literally but not seriously. Trust Trump.


24 posted on 03/01/2018 8:35:07 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust Sessions. The Great Awakening is at hand...MAGA!)
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***Trump Blames ‘The Video Games. The Movies. The Internet Stuff’***

And in the hysteria of 1968, the blame was Movies that glorified violence, TV shows, comic books, pulp fiction, toy guns.

So toy guns disappeared from toy stores, TV shows for adults but safe for kids were dumbed down to kiddie shows, comic books changed their format, Pulp fiction changed their blood and sex soaked covers.

Meanwhile the movie industry said they would police themselves with a joke of a ratings system. Scenes were reshot to ADD more blood and guts, sex and violence to obtain the coveted “R” rating.

Wonder what will change now with video games and internet games.


26 posted on 03/01/2018 8:38:29 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Re-open the insane asylums, stop drugging the kids.)
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You folks are in panic mode.
Trump has already said what will kill any gun control measure.
Including Reciprocity in it.
29 posted on 03/01/2018 8:41:52 AM PST by Wizdum (Buckle up! It's going to be one hell of a ride.)
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If there's a plan here, it's Ivanka's. She got to him, probably in an effort to distract us from Jared's latest mess and Trump, being a rich city boy with bodyguards, never really understood the Second Amendment in the first place.

You can't say that around here. It's always 7D chess. Trump cannot do wrong. All he does right outweighs what he does wrong.
30 posted on 03/01/2018 8:42:13 AM PST by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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During the campaign a thread such as this would have been the end of the FR line for some folks.


32 posted on 03/01/2018 8:43:49 AM PST by John W (Trump/Pence 2020)
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“2. Trump: ‘Take the Guns First. Go Through Due Process Second’”

Sounds ominous, but he was talking about obviously mentally disturbed who are potentially dangerous according to their family members. He illustrated this statement with the current school shooter, who had been visited by the police 40 times in just a few years, and people had told them that he was dangerous. It would have been better to error on the side of safety, than to wait for weeks or months to go thru the court system. He did not mean to just take guns from people for no reason or as some type of general confiscation.


34 posted on 03/01/2018 8:46:46 AM PST by euram
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I see Trump as transparent to use the fad word. What you see is how some conduct business meetings, of an exploratory nature.

To me this is not bad, or good. It just is.

I credit him for having the self-confidence and courage, to do this immediately after this horrible event.


39 posted on 03/01/2018 8:52:14 AM PST by truth_seeker
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