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Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 19
6/24/02 | Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 19

Posted on 06/23/2002 10:08:41 PM PDT by stlnative

Please keep adding 6/24/02 dated Elizabeth Smart updates to this thread...
Remember to keep checking back to this thread today for
today's developing news on the Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping.

Some people may consider today to be actually day 20, I count 1 day for each
24 hours that have passed since Elizabeth was kidnapped.


Links

Suspect being held by FBI in Smart case in SLC - 6/23/02 10pm
Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 18
Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 17


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bretedmunds; elizabethsmart; kidnapping; richardalbertricci; robertalbertricci; utah
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To: Utah Girl
*I have no idea if it's true or not. I'm only posting what I find on Google. I certainly don't claim to be an expert on Utah. I have enough trouble with problems in Arkansas(anyone care to adopt the Clinton Library).*

in late June when Gibbons, who is divorced, called 911 in a panic early one morning. A young woman who had been raped had tried to kill herself by overdosing on drugs, he said.

Paramedics and police found Gibbons' 19-year-old girlfriend, whose friends worried about her increasingly erratic behavior, naked and unconscious in Gibbons' bed. His 15-year-old daughter ---- who neighbors say was often locked out of the house during the day -- was found passed out in her pajamas.

Both were rushed to the hospital for treatment of drug and alcohol overdoses.

In a search after Gibbons' arrest, deputies found nearly a gram of methamphetamine in a nightstand in the master bedroom.


481 posted on 06/25/2002 12:29:39 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: IamHD
Do you honestly believe that the folks here don't care about Elizabeth?

Read what I said. "There are people here" who care less about what happens to her than they do about the spectacle.

That statement does not imply that no one here cares--most do--but the ones who're just jazzed ot see yet another "reality t.v. show" are pretty evident. Just read the posts.

Maybe it is YOU who needs to turn your burner down a bit.

482 posted on 06/25/2002 5:34:29 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: TheBigB
You're right, I am sad.

I sincerely hope YOU'RE sad, too.

483 posted on 06/25/2002 5:35:34 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: IamHD
Whether you think so or not, the conventional wisdom on FR is to be quite suspicious of someone who comes on the same day they begin posting voluminous replies.

The implication is that they're part of a "call ring" of Leftists, or that they are a "banned" FReeper who've come back under a new name.

484 posted on 06/25/2002 5:37:30 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: TheBigB
Read Utah Girl's post no. 378. I am correct.
485 posted on 06/25/2002 5:38:40 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: TheBigB
Everybody here...EVERY...SINGLE...PERSON ...wants Elizabeth back safe and sound.

Most do. Some just love the spectacle, as I've said.

They are the ones who, rather than concentrating on how they're going to find her, speculate endlessly on the most contrived, contorted conspiracy theories imaginable.

If you don't see this, one wonders what your interest really is.

486 posted on 06/25/2002 5:41:27 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
Read it again. You're wrong. Again. But whatever.
487 posted on 06/25/2002 5:42:03 AM PDT by TheBigB
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To: Illbay
Your wondering about me makes no difference and means nothing. Quit wasting your time.
488 posted on 06/25/2002 5:43:35 AM PDT by TheBigB
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To: TheBigB
Apparently you have NOT been paying attention. Edmunds never was a suspect to begin with. But since his car was traced to the location near the time of the crime, and given his checkered past, it seemed logical to seek him for questioning.

That's what the police did; they QUESTIONED him. In response to questioning he gave them "very valuable information" that they are following up as we speak.

Who knows what his tie-in to the crime might be? But at least he proved to be more than a dead-end as you seemed to imply.

I hope that's a bit more clear for you.

489 posted on 06/25/2002 5:45:00 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
It was clear to me from the beginning, but thank you anyway, sincerely, for the explanation. I hope you're a bit calmer today so we can discuss in a more reserved manner.
490 posted on 06/25/2002 5:51:08 AM PDT by TheBigB
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To: Grig
You know, if this were simply another in the long line of "Mormon-bashing" threads, on some of which I've participated, it would be one thing.

But this, this is simple character assassination. These people are maligning an entire family, who have temporarily--maybe for quite a long time--lost a daughter to a horrible crime, and bandying about the must outrageous, scurrilous charges anyone could dream up.

That is why they are focusing so on the Enquirer story. The Enquirer seems even to have put a shill here on FR to drum up interest in the story, a story that has outraged the community in which the Smarts reside. My correspondent, who lives in that section of SLC, tells me that the story is looked upon as libel, and there is a good probability that, when this case is finally resolved to whatever conclusion, the National Enquirer will have yet ANOTHER lawsuit on its hands (the lawsuits roll off them like water off a duck's back; the sick minds such as appear on this thread will always keep them in the black, so sue away, is their philosophy).

Then the Enquirer will go on to exploit yet another human tragedy to the obvious delight of some here on this thread, whose screen names I won't mention.

Bottom line, the malevolent respondents here on this thread are treading upon sacred ground--that of a good family--and that is what has me so incensed. Their daughter is missing, might be dead, and all these clowns can come up with are neon-lit theories of gay escort services, gambling debts and "the evil SLC establishment."

It just turns my gut, and I have to speak out. I'm sick of it.

491 posted on 06/25/2002 5:55:03 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
...deep into the SLC establishment,... Read "The Mormons." I'm telling you, my fellow Saints on this (and related) threads: What you see here with posts like "twigs'" here, is simply a veiled attack on our beliefs and our society.

Illbay, I did not mean any thing of the kind! I'm talking about the political establishment. I'm on the east coast and I know nothing about what the political establishment in SLC is like. Where I am located, there are deep political relationships that run under the radar, and that was what I was referring to. I have NEVER cast aspersions on anyone's religion.

I have NEVER been more incensed about ANYTHING that I've participated in here on FR

I do not understand your anger about this thread. If I were broadcoasting for the media, I would never have uttered much of what I think. But I am NOT! This is a forum where people are invited to comment. That's all. Nor do I think that the SLC police have any obligation to tell the public anything other than what will help bring Elizabeth home. I have not liked the media's sense of believing that they have a right to all information. However, as a private citizen, I do have a right to comment on what is public and as I am very interested, and very saddened, by this very public case, I have.

492 posted on 06/25/2002 5:55:15 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Palladin
The guy's screen name is "EnquiringMind," he just joined a few days ago, and at that time he "reveals" an upcoming National Enquirer story on the Smarts.

Do you drink in the morning, or have your grey cells ALWAYS been dead?

493 posted on 06/25/2002 5:56:57 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: restornu
I WAS banned for twenty-four hours over the weekend, because I DARED to post a humorous caricature. It is FINE to drag the name of the Smart family through the mud, but we mustn't call a spade a spade where a "fellow" FReeper is concerned.

Nevertheless, I served my time and apologized to the Powers That Be.

However, I stick by my characterization of those on these threads who are "porcine" beyond redemption.

494 posted on 06/25/2002 5:59:03 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Jrabbit
If the LE won't say that the NE article was false{it was attributed to a leak from them}then why should it be claimed to be false?

Because they have already STATED that the fundamental premise in the NE article is incorrect.

They stated about a week ago, that they had searched the family's computers and found nothing.

The NE article is a lie, pure and simple, just as all the lies they've printed over the years (I listed about a dozen people that have sued NE and won--with one exception, John Ramsey, which I think is interesting because he has no clout. The judge simply said "I see no evidence that NE KNOWINGLY published false information with malicious intent.")

Hey, the Smarts may even LOSE their lawsuit! Looks like NE knows who they can push around, and who they can't.

REPEATING: THE NE STORY IS WHOLLY WITHOUT BASIS IN FACT. (Except they may have spelled some words right).

495 posted on 06/25/2002 6:04:10 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: TheBigB
Do you see what I'm asking?

This is what intrigues me. Look back over what you wrote. Do you not see that your conclusion is based on, by my count, THREE separate assumptions, on no basis other than your own imagination?

That's what is galling to me: People like you have NO PROBLEM spining these concoctions, then next thing you know they become "truth."

Exempla Gratia: "Mary Katherine changed her story..." That has been repeated over and over again, and yet over and over again those who've been paying attention to the actual FACTS have corrected this. But it makes no difference. You'll just continue parroting the same mythology.

You have GOT to be a Democrat.

496 posted on 06/25/2002 6:08:21 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: joyce11111
...FR doesn't like to have mean-spirited conversations here.

Y'know you seem to have been here a long time. How can you make a statement so preposterous? FR THRIVES on "mean-spirited conversations."

497 posted on 06/25/2002 6:10:16 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: restornu
I donate to parochial schools; government ones obviously aren't getting the job done.
498 posted on 06/25/2002 6:44:27 AM PDT by Plummz
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To: cherry
so what's your point?

Bwahaha... I just wanted to say something about Joan Rivers sprouting a second head out of her a$$...

499 posted on 06/25/2002 7:06:41 AM PDT by maxwell
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To: Illbay
"You have GOT to be a Democrat."

No, I'm not, but thanks for spinning that concoction and presenting it as truth.

500 posted on 06/25/2002 7:08:57 AM PDT by TheBigB
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