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Since When Does Patriotism Mean Love Of Big Government?
Toogood Reports ^ | September 8, 2002 | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 09/08/2002 9:43:06 AM PDT by niki

Since When Does Patriotism Mean Love Of Big Government?

Patriotism seems to have taken on a strange new definition. Love for country has been replaced with love for big government. At one time, American patriotism meant love for liberty, love for family, love for faith, and love for the principles articulated in America's founding documents. No more. Today, only people who demand increased government protection, increased government handouts, and increased government bureaucracies are considered patriotic.

Today's Americans look to the federal government to solve virtually every problem, to protect them from virtually any adversary, and to even subsidize their own personal welfare. In exchange for this new insatiable appetite for serfdom, such people are more than willing to surrender their individual freedoms and personal responsibilities.

There doesn't seem to be Republican alive who remembers Ronald Reagan's famous quote,

"Government is not the solution to the problem; government is the problem!" Instead, today's Republicans appear just as anxious to invoke the heavy hand of government as Democrats — maybe more so.

Virtually no one in Washington is calling for less government today. The only undecided question being debated now is how much to increase the size and scope of the federal government. The founders' concept of limited government has been repudiated by the vast majority of this me-first generation.

Even so-called conservative leaders (including Christian conservatives) on radio and television will fight anyone who dares suggest that the federal government has become a behemoth with virtually no resemblance to the country that was created back in 1776.

No one in Washington wants to dismantle any federal program or department. Even the once-despised National Endowment for the Arts gets a huge spending boost from these "conservative" Republicans. Ditto for federal spending for education, energy, agriculture, commerce, etc., and ad infinitum. And if you think all that's bad, wait until this new Homeland Security Department grows up. There won't be a shred of freedom left! Taxpayers have allowed themselves to be forced into financing a federal leviathan that is in the process of swallowing every liberty and personal responsibility in sight; and few people seem to mind.

Beyond that, if anyone dares suggest that the federal government is too monstrous, too oppressive, and too invasive, they are called unpatriotic. Worse still is the fact that many such people are paid personal visits from a variety of government goon squads in order to intimidate or silence them. (Yes, this practice continues under the Bush administration.)

This is not the America that tens of thousands of brave men fought and died for. This is not the country I grew up in. America has become an alien nation. It is a country completely foreign to the one bequeathed to us by our Founding Fathers.

I am very confident that if George Washington, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, James Otis, Paul Revere, Sam Adams, and the rest of those great patriots of yesteryear were alive today, they would be treated by our own government the same way they were treated by old King George of England: as traitors and criminals.

Yet, the real traitors and criminals are the ones in Washington and other places who have worked (and are working) feverishly to dismantle and destroy the fundamental principles contained in our U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence.

If despising an overbearing, overreaching, Orwellian-style federal government complete with its "swarms of officers" intent on harassing and stealing my liberties makes me unpatriotic, then I will gladly wear the moniker.


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To: 1rudeboy
One suggestion would be to stop reading articles that are as useful as belly-button lint (to stick with my analogy).

But if we don't acknowledge there is a problem, how do we fix it?

41 posted on 09/08/2002 10:50:27 AM PDT by niki
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To: Ahban
"The only thing keeping 3rd parites from winning is the perception that they can't win."

No, what is keeping third parties from gaining any headway is a combination of needing enormous amounts of money and the fact that neither major party will give up its stranglehold on the 2-party system. Third parties are prevented from taking part in debates, and even if they rise above that obstacle, big dollars and carefully contrived "rules" keep them off the ballots. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. I don't know the answer.

Maybe you can discuss that next Sunday or at least at the FReeper meeting the following Saturday. I look forward to meeting you.

42 posted on 09/08/2002 10:50:34 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: sinkspur
We are not on the same page. I am a life long Republican.
43 posted on 09/08/2002 10:52:59 AM PDT by niki
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To: AzJP
Could that be true?

What do you think happens when you open a "Department of Homeland Security"? It just sounds spooky . . .

44 posted on 09/08/2002 10:53:37 AM PDT by realpatriot71
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To: sweetliberty
This one too:

SYNCOPANT


45 posted on 09/08/2002 10:55:16 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Bill D. Berger
Agreed.

I think that is the problem. We hold the Republicans to a lesser standard. We need to be just as vocal regarding bad policies regardless of party affiliation.
46 posted on 09/08/2002 10:57:08 AM PDT by niki
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To: niki
The Constitution, The Boy Scout Oath & Law....
47 posted on 09/08/2002 10:57:23 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: billbears
WHAT!??? Are you suggesting there are no real differences between Demicans and Republicats?! But...but...but...our guy won.
48 posted on 09/08/2002 11:02:46 AM PDT by Ff--150
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To: AAABEST
Yes, I considered that one. LOL!
49 posted on 09/08/2002 11:06:08 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: niki

Maybe they did in some ways but I also blame a very inept campaign by then President Bush X41 and the GOP and a pretty effective campaign by then Gov Clinton and his campaign (it's the economy, stupid).


VOTE REPUBLICAN NOV. 5, 2002

Take back the Senate
Retain the House

50 posted on 09/08/2002 11:08:25 AM PDT by deport
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To: Ahban
What has the US Taxpayers/Constitution party won?
52 posted on 09/08/2002 11:16:36 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: Bill D. Berger
What are we to do? I don't have the answer for that question, but I do know that the Republicans are just as complicit in the downfall of America as much as the Dems

I'm working on taking back the GOP.

I'll give you a little background. We had a 22 year old named Joe Hune in a very conservative area in the district that neighbors mine. He was one of 6 candidates for a state rep spot. The 'establishment' candidate was Dave Domas(I hate using that term, since establishment usually has negative connotations and Dave is a good guy). Dave was the chair of the county commissioners and has 10 years experience.

Joe won.(probably, it's in the hands of the board of canvassers because of a recount and a two vote margin). Joe won by knocking on 13,000 doors. He beat two township supervisors, a newspaper editor, and an attorney.

He outworked everyone. Are conservatives willing to outwork the moderates or simply bitch? That's the question I have.

53 posted on 09/08/2002 11:24:17 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: Jimer
Maybe it's a Conservative "run and bitch" mentality

Bingo

54 posted on 09/08/2002 11:26:21 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: Bill D. Berger
I agree there. I have been critical of Bush in the past when he is wrong and I will continue to be.
55 posted on 09/08/2002 11:30:40 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: niki
AMEN! Say it again!!!!
56 posted on 09/08/2002 11:32:31 AM PDT by dcwusmc
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To: niki
DO ANY OF THE FREEPERS ON THIS THREAD--have confirmation of the 2nd part of the post at: http://freerepublic.com/focus/religion/746755/posts?page=1 THE SECOND PART BEGINS JUST ABOVE THE 2ND BOLD DARK BLUE PARAGRAPH--THE UNCENTERED BLUE PARAGRAPH. IT SPEAKS TO WHAT THE BIG GOV OF BILLDO AND SHRILLERY WERE UP TO, IMHO. AND . . . given that I've felt such was true a long time--it's sobering to read it again.
57 posted on 09/08/2002 11:37:35 AM PDT by Quix
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To: JZoback
He's far more right than you are. How is it nonsense? Please be specific.

Further, the FedGov leviathan has grown so huge that it may NOT be possible for we, the people, to take it back without being willing to see copious amounts of blood shed... Are you saying it's time for that?

There is only ONE public official in DC that I would be 100% confident is not either a crook, a socialist or a traitor. You know who that is... and it is NOT the current administration.
58 posted on 09/08/2002 11:41:00 AM PDT by dcwusmc
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To: dcwusmc
Are you saying it's time for that?

Yes.

59 posted on 09/08/2002 11:51:29 AM PDT by JZoback
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To: JZoback
OK. I am not at all unwilling to go that route, but I prefer to see all the peaceful options exhausted first... it makes a much neater package and perhaps can result in fewer innocent casualties if you have to drop the ballot box to pick up the bullet box...
60 posted on 09/08/2002 11:55:38 AM PDT by dcwusmc
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