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The missing sun temples! (Where are they?)
Al-Ahram Weekly (Egypt) ^ | 2 - 8 January 2003 | Jill Kamil

Posted on 01/03/2003 3:59:47 PM PST by vannrox

The missing sun temples

Six Pharaohs of the Fifth Dynasty built massive sun temples at Abu Sir in addition to their pyramids, but only two have so far been found.Jill Kamil talks to the head of the Czech archaeological mission

In a presentation on Abu Sir given at the American University in Cairo last week head of the Czech mission Miroslav Verner told the audience that his team had recently been focusing on the "vast and remarkable monuments", the sun temples raised by the Pharaohs of the Fifth Dynasty who ruled from 2494 to 2345 BC.

"Their plan (main structure, causeway and valley temple) was purposely designed to reflect the same uniformity as the pyramid complexes, which indicates that there was a generally accepted architectural concept," Verner said.

"We have been excavating at Abu Sir for the last 40 years, and our excavations have revealed that the history of this necropolis was longer than hitherto supposed, and more challenging than originally anticipated; in fact our discoveries continue to raise more questions than can satisfactorily be answered,."

He went on to explain that, in place of the bulk of the pyramidal structure (in the shape of the sacred benben stone associated with the sun-god Re of Iunu [Heliopolis]), the sun temples feature large, somewhat squat, but not monolithic, obelisks perched on top of vast bases of hewn stone.

Although the pyramids of the Fifth-Dynasty Pharaohs are inferior, both in size and structure, to the great Fourth-Dynasty pyramids at Giza, their sun temples were built and decorated on a massive scale. From this it would appear that the labour force trained under the earlier Pharaohs was released from large- scale pyramid construction, and those resources that previously went into the building of funerary monuments were channelled into the construction of the sun temples. These bore such names as Pleasure of Re, Horizon of Re, and Field of Re, and are located on the west bank of the Nile, in the middle of the Giza/Memphite necropolis with pyramids and mortuary temples that, Verner said, relate to the royal mortuary cult and the afterlife. "Their decoration stresses the influence of the sun-god, especially during ritual celebrations like the Sed, a jubilee festival sanctioned by the Pharaoh," he added.

There have been many theories about the purpose of the temples and their specific function. "But only two of the six sun temples, known from literary texts like the Abu Sir Papyri, have so far been found, so our information is incomplete," Verner said. "There are gaps in our knowledge that have not yet been bridged, so ideas must remain hypothetical until more evidence comes to light -- we hope this will be the discovery of the four missing sun temples!"

The surviving two sun temples at Abu Sir are those of Userkhaf and Niuserre, and the latter shows that these monuments were adorned with reliefs along the corridors opening from the entrance hall and running along the sides of the court, and also in small chambers. The quality of the limestone used was such that both raised and sunken reliefs could be executed with great precision. "The scenes that show the flora and fauna throughout the three seasons of the agricultural year are especially noteworthy," Verner pointed out.

Suggestions about the reason why Pharaohs started building sun temples in addition to their pyramids have been numerous. It has been proposed they were mortuary complexes for the sun-god Re, whose main temple at Heliopolis was probably constructed at the same time; that they were places where communion between the Pharaoh and the sun could be made to ensure the welfare of the land; and, a more recent hypothesis, "that the temples may have been closely linked with the royal cemetery at Abu Sir, one of the reasons for their construction being for the reorganisation of royal cults as revealed by temple archives discovered in the mid-1980s," Werner suggests. "There is strong indication that the sun temples were closely linked to the royal cemeteries for the redistribution of offerings."

The bureaucratic records to which he referred were found in the mortuary temple of Neferirkare. The 2000-odd pieces of papyrus found there, taken together with similar finds in neighbouring temples, provide a wealth of information: state archives, registers, royal edicts, lists, instructions, letters, and schedules for religious sacrifices as well as deliveries between sun temples, the "great house" (i.e. royal residence), and funerary complexes.

"The Pharaohs of the Fifth Dynasty built pyramid and mortuary complexes for themselves, and sun temples for the worship of the state god Re, thus stressing the relationship between god and ruler," Verner said. "Userkhaf, who built his pyramid near the Step Pyramid of Djoser at Saqqara, was the first to build a sun temple at Abu Sir, about three kilometres north of his pyramid. The reason for this choice of site is not yet known, but his decision led to the establishment of a new royal necropolis at Abu Sir, in which subsequent rulers build their tomb complexes and sun temples."

Both these monuments were state property and carefully guarded. There were workshops in the sun temples, and the lists of donations to them were extremely large. Cylinder seals bearing incised hieroglyphics were rolled across the clay that sealed documents, wooden chests, doorways of storehouses, and even sacks and jars. Regular inspection of all seals was carried out, administrative records kept, and columns left blank for observations of theft or any other disorder. On the occasion of Niuserre's Sed festival in the 13th year of his reign the list of items included 100,600 meals of bread, beer and cakes. Thirty thousand meals were recorded for another festival.

"Our ideas concerning the purpose of what were thought to be huge slaughterhouses at the sun temples is being revised," Verner said. "At first it was thought that this was where offerings were made by the Pharaoh to the sun-god -- that the alabaster altar with four hetep signs was the place where bulls were laid before being sacrificed. We now no longer think that it was a slaughterhouse that was discovered, or that the great alabaster vessels were collecting the spurting blood; we see that the altar was for the ritual purification of meat and vegetable offerings before being placed on the altar, and the vessels collected the sacred water."

As for the location of the missing sun temples," Verner said, "a theory originally presented by the German scholar Werner Kaiser is gaining currency. He suggested that there was a direct visual connection between the sun temples at Abu Sir and the centre of the sun cult at Heliopolis (see map). This idea is supported by the British archaeologist David Geoffreys, who points out that the visual line between Heliopolis and Abu Sir is broken at south Abu Sir by the Muqattam Hills on the eastern bank of the Nile. Therefore," Verner concluded, "if we are to look for the four missing sun temples -- which represented the real centre of the Pharaoh's mortuary ritual where supplies were brought daily by temple priests -- it would be logical to look, not to the south, but to the north of Abu Sir." That is to say, between Abu Sir and Giza. An interesting concept and one that will doubtless be pursued in the coming years.

Recommended reading

Abusir: The Realm of Osiris, Miroslav Verner, 2002; The Pyramids: The Mystery, Culture, and Science of Egypt's Great Monuments , Miroslav Verner, 2002; The Complete Pyramids, Mark Lehner, 1997; Guide to the Pyramids of Egypt, Alberto Siliotti, 1997.

C a p t i o n : The largest group of administrative documents known from the Old Kingdom was found in 1980 in Pharaoh Neferirkare's mortuary temple

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Al-Ahram Weekly Online : 2 - 8 January 2003 (Issue No. 619)
Located at: http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2003/619/he1.htm


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 5thdynasty; arab; archaeology; dune; egypt; ggg; god; godsgravesglyphs; history; mikebaillie; mummy; oldkingdom; past; ra; sand; temple; unexplained; unexplored
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To: JRandomFreeper
Well, I actually lost it in a game of chance....
21 posted on 01/03/2003 7:35:35 PM PST by theDentist
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To: ckilmer
I have a better question.

Why before this sudden fixation on the Sun and the Moon was the chief god of almost all religions SATURN????

In many of these religions the Sun and Moon are not even part of their pantheon of gods.

Strange.
22 posted on 01/03/2003 8:35:28 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker
beats me.

I'm not sufficient familiar with the gods of the period to speculate

but it sounds like you are...

why don't you take a shot at answering your question.
23 posted on 01/03/2003 9:21:36 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: Swordmaker
Did you say Saturn?? Need to look up the Saturnists at http://www.kronia.com/ and other places. Have fun! Be prepared to be called a kook, though. Personally, I think Immanuel Velikovsky was real close to the truth of the matter of ancient mythology...
24 posted on 01/03/2003 9:30:54 PM PST by Lafayette
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To: Lafayette
another possibility is that there were distubances out beyond the outer planets that brought gangs of comets into the inner solar system. ancient men might have noticed that these comets came and went in the night sky at regular intervals.

http://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/ccc/cc072798.html


(4) NEW IMPLICATIONS FOR A TAURID METEOROID SWARM

D.J. Asher*) and K. Izumi: Meteor observations in Japan: New
implications for a Taurid meteoroid swarm. MONTHLY NOTICES OF THE
ROYAL ASTRONOMICAL SOCIETY, 1998, Vol.297, No.1, pp.23-27

*) COMMUN RES LABS, 893-1 HIRAI, KASHIMA, IBARAKI 3140012, JAPAN

Observational evidence is sought that the long-term (10(4) yr) action
of a mean motion resonance with Jupiter can produce structure in a
meteoroid stream, concentrating meteoroids in a dense swarm. More
specifically, predictions tabulated by Asher & Clube of enhanced
meteor and fireball activity from a Taurid Complex swarm in the 7:2
resonance are compared with observational data collected in Japan
over several decades. The swarm model was proposed for reasons
independent of the observations analysed here, and these newly
considered data are shown to be consistent with it. This allows
increased confidence in the Taurid swarm theory, and more generally
could mean that resonant trapping is a dynamical mechanism affecting
a significant amount of meteoroidal material in the inner Solar
system.
25 posted on 01/03/2003 9:41:09 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: Lafayette
Did you say Saturn?? Need to look up the Saturnists at and other places. Have fun! Be prepared to be called a kook, though. Personally, I think Immanuel Velikovsky was real close to the truth of the matter of ancient mythology...

Actually, I am a subscriber to their e-newsletter and am in the process of writing, with a co-writer, a series of Science Fiction books based in part on the Saturn theory. I find more and more corroboration the more I look.

26 posted on 01/03/2003 10:32:02 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: vannrox
THE PYRAMID OF HELLENICON
27 posted on 01/03/2003 11:33:40 PM PST by Orion78
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To: ruoflaw
Akahenton was 18 dynasty... he worshiped only the Sun God...

Ethereal Explorations II

To the pagan Egyptians, the pharaohs were gods. Each had their own special privileges of divinity. The pagan Egyptians had their own pantheon of gods like the pagan Greeks, several of which the Greeks adopted. (Set and Typhon are convenient examples.) The pagan Egyptians were also idolaters like the Greeks; their temples, architecture and art are replete with sacred idols. They both practiced human sacrifice. (These practices extended to the pagan Romans as well.) Is Oedipus representative of the pharaoh Akhnaton?

The parallels to the story of Oedipus and to the pharaoh Akhnaton are remarkable. Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky ignited some historical debate that is yet to be resolved by historians concerning the chronology of the reign of Amenhotep IV (Akhnaton). The actual dates of history are fluid since we know about so little, except for the artifacts and remnants of literature left behind. However, as the debate rages, Oedipus and Akhnaton; Myth and History shows some compelling ideas related to the topic.

Akhnaton effaced all of his father’s names from the records, in the temples, and changed his name. To the Egyptians this destruction of someone’s name was akin to murdering their soul, robbing them of their eternity.

One of Sigmund Freud’s earlier followers, Karl Abraham, contributed an essay to the first volume of Imago, published by Freud in 1912, entitled Amenhotep IV (Akhnaton). This was of interest in that the essay talks about how Akhnaton did not entomb his mother Tiy next to her husband after her death, and that Akhnaton’s rivalry with his father for possession of his mother extended beyond death.

Velikovsky goes farther to say that Akhnaton actually did possess his mother. But, ignoring this, focus on the figurative implication:

In this connection it is interesting that Oedipus, whose parentage is regularly ascribed to Laius, is also called in some ancient sources the son of Helios (sun i).1 Oedipus’ descent from Laius is a vital element in the legend; such an unmotivated change in the parentage of the legendary hero seems strange but is understandable if the prototype of the legendary hero was Akhnaton.

A royal son and descendent of the god Ra, like other pharaohs before him, his claim to divinity soon demanded an equality with his father, Aton, the sun.i

"Thou art an eternity like the Aten, beautiful like the Aten who gave him being, Nefer-kheperu-ra (Akhnaton), who fashions mankind and gives existence to generations. He is fixed as the heaven in which Aten is."2

So wrote his foreign minister in a panegyric to the king. Next Akhnaton insisted that he had created himself, like Ra. Of Ra-Amon it was said he was the "husband of his mother." The "favorite concrete expression for a self-existent or self created being (was) ‘husband of his mother.’"3

He claimed to be Ra-Aton, and in this spirit he also took over his father’s name, Nebmare (Neb maatre), as if he himself was his own father. (Velikovsky, p 71-72)

1. "Auch ein Helios wurde als Vater des Oedipus genannt." L.W. Daly’ in Pauly-Wissowa, Real- Encyclopädie der classichen Altertumswissenschaft, article "Oedipus," Vol. XVII, Col. 2108. Cf. Also W.H. Roscher, Ausführliches Lexikon der griechischen und römischen Mythologie, article "Oedipus" by O. Höfer, Vol. III, Cols. 703, 708.

2. The Tomb of Tutu (Davies, the Rock Tombs of el-Amarna, VI, 13).

3. W.M. Flinders Petrie, Egyptian Tales (XVIII-XIX Dynasties) (1895), pp. 125-126. More properly translated "bull of his mother."

Dr. Velikovsky is not without critics, but his assertions are most profound. I attribute much of this to the ancient conflict between the pagan and the Judaic that still rages (even from within Judaism itself: The Rise Of Tikkun Olam Paganism)

Behold, I am Set, the creator of confusion, who creates both the tempest and the storm throughout the length and breadth of the heavens. (Naville, p. 39)

Naville, Edouard, trans. Egyptian Book of the Dead of the XVIII to XX Dynasties, Berlin, 1886.

Velikovsky, Immanuel. Oedipus and Akhnaten; Myth and History. New York: Doubleday, 1960

28 posted on 01/04/2003 1:24:21 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Lafayette
I think Immanuel Velikovsky was real close to the truth of the matter of ancient mythology...

I read his book Oedipus and Akhnaton; Myth and History. (See #28). I am intensely interested in topics like the ones here.

Wow, there are still people actually think about this stuff?

29 posted on 01/04/2003 1:47:33 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Swordmaker
I am a subscriber to their e-newsletter and am in the process of writing, with a co-writer, a series of Science Fiction books based in part on the Saturn theory. I find more and more corroboration the more I look.

If you find some interesting titles, Ping or FReep mail me. Not enough people read and write these days. (see #28)

30 posted on 01/04/2003 2:06:40 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Carry_Okie
Research ping...
31 posted on 01/04/2003 2:15:15 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: ckilmer
Five thousand years ago people started looking up

That was one of the most brilliantly put points I've read. Beautifully describing why speculation about any extra-terrestrial basis behind the pyramids is insulting to the sheer ingenuity of mankind that built those structures.
32 posted on 02/04/2004 7:54:19 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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Blast from the past. Thanks VannRox. :')
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33 posted on 12/28/2004 5:22:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I didn't do it.


34 posted on 12/28/2004 5:59:23 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: BenLurkin

Oh, sure, I suppose you were 'out of town when it happened', right? ;')


35 posted on 12/28/2004 6:17:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("The odds are very much against inclusion, and non-inclusion is unlikely to be meaningful." -seamole)
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To: Young Werther
Might a search of these images be fruitful?

Surprising we don't hear more of these. Might have to do with the present Antiquities Admin of Egypt.

36 posted on 12/28/2004 6:37:54 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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37 posted on 04/26/2006 2:11:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Centurion2000

I opt for the hidden in plain site theory.


38 posted on 04/26/2006 2:33:30 AM PDT by raygun
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39 posted on 06/10/2006 7:45:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (All Moslems everywhere advocate murder, including mass murder, and they do it all the time.)
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