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The Democrats’ Big Plan
National Review ^ | April 3, 2003, 9:10 a.m. | Byron York

Posted on 04/03/2003 8:59:03 AM PST by STOCKHRSE

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To: STOCKHRSE
Others have said that my brand of diplomacy is a bit harsh, too.
21 posted on 04/03/2003 10:05:08 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: STOCKHRSE
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22 posted on 04/03/2003 10:06:31 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: CA Conservative; denydenydeny
From what I understand of Senate rules, there is one additional step required to use "the nuclear option"; once the President of the Senate (Cheney) makes a ruling, the Democrats can challenge it and then the ruling itself is voted on by the full Senate. It needs 50 votes and I imagine that Cheney himself breaks the tie.

So I think before the GOP makes that move, they have to make sure they have 50 GOP senators present and willing to REALLY piss off the Democrats.
23 posted on 04/03/2003 10:13:41 AM PST by Maximum Leader (run from a knife, close on a gun)
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To: Quix
" Please, Father, God, break this logjam and leave rotten eggs all over all the obstructionist liberals. In Jesus' Name.

AMEN!

24 posted on 04/03/2003 10:14:20 AM PST by STOCKHRSE (God Bless and keep our Commander In Chief....We are expendable...)
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To: Stand Watch Listen
THANKS! Great Post....
25 posted on 04/03/2003 10:21:49 AM PST by STOCKHRSE (God Bless and keep our Commander In Chief....We are expendable...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
" Others have said that my brand of diplomacy is a bit harsh, too."

Don't BEND...There comes a time for ALL methods....

26 posted on 04/03/2003 10:26:56 AM PST by STOCKHRSE (God Bless and keep our Commander In Chief....We are expendable...)
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To: Maximum Leader
Does it requires 50 votes, or a majority of the senators present and voting? And since the Dems would be the ones challenging the ruling, wouldn't they have to come up with a majority, not the Republicans?
27 posted on 04/03/2003 10:28:04 AM PST by CA Conservative
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To: denydenydeny
AGREED!!!! Push hard NOW>>>>>
28 posted on 04/03/2003 11:06:55 AM PST by Amalie (pray for our troops)
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To: CA Conservative
You've got me, I really don't know. I think Senate rules votes requires 50% plus 1 of the entire Senate, but I really don't know.

And your other point is correct, Cheney's vote would stand unless the Democrats can get the votes to override it. Since Cheney isn't going to break a tie against his own ruling, the Dems would have to come up with 51 votes.

The big part is for the GOP Senate caucus to be willing to piss over the Democrats to no end.
29 posted on 04/03/2003 11:15:05 AM PST by Maximum Leader (run from a knife, close on a gun)
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To: Maximum Leader
The big part is for the GOP Senate caucus to be willing to piss over the Democrats to no end.

This statement is a bit confusing. It sounds like you are saying the GOP would piss off the Dems for no real purpose ("to no end"). Of course, another interpretation could be that the GOP would piss off the Dems unendingly.

Regardless, I agree that the Dems would be pissed off, but so what? Can they do more to frustrate the conservative cause that what they are doing now? They are pursing gridlock wherever they can right now. If we can eliminate some of that, I say go for it.

30 posted on 04/03/2003 11:24:54 AM PST by CA Conservative
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To: STOCKHRSE; backhoe; Bennett46; betsyross60; BlessedBeGod; Brad's Gramma; DeweyCA; ...
THANKS!

So if one puts to flight a thousand and 2 10,000

just the two of us ought to be able to have SOME prayer clout over 48? idiots?

Please join in, prayer warriors!
31 posted on 04/03/2003 11:49:28 AM PST by Quix (QUALITY RESRCH STDY BTWN BK WAR N PEACE VS BIBLE RE BIBLE CODES AT MAR BIBLECODESDIGEST.COM)
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To: Quix
Count me in, Quix. Let God handle these weasels. M
32 posted on 04/03/2003 12:17:03 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: CA Conservative
By "to no end" I meant unendingly.

I agree with you that the GOP should do this yesterday. I'm just afraid that some of our guys are too chummy with the Democrat senators.
33 posted on 04/03/2003 12:21:30 PM PST by Maximum Leader (run from a knife, close on a gun)
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To: Marysecretary
HE'S THE ONLY ONE WITH THE PROPER CLOUT.

And, He's the only one who can touch them without getting His hands dirty.

YEA GOD!
34 posted on 04/03/2003 12:24:14 PM PST by Quix (QUALITY RESRCH STDY BTWN BK WAR N PEACE VS BIBLE RE BIBLE CODES AT MAR BIBLECODESDIGEST.COM)
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To: STOCKHRSE
Sounds like the Mother of all plans....destined for failure
35 posted on 04/03/2003 12:25:40 PM PST by 1Old Pro (The Dems are self-destructing before our eyes, How Great is That !)
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To: Quix
You got that right, Quix! He sits in the heavens and laughs at the puny efforts of man to thwart His plans. Love, Mxxx
36 posted on 04/03/2003 12:38:18 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: Marysecretary
On occasion,

I have flashes of an impression that WE will look back with HIM on

all

this--earthly boot camp . . .

and laugh robustly

at all of it . . .

much as Navy sailors would look back at their boot camp and

laugh at ALL of it.

Seems crazy from this perspective.

But from the perspective of eternal Heaven?

We shall see!
37 posted on 04/03/2003 12:45:17 PM PST by Quix (QUALITY RESRCH STDY BTWN BK WAR N PEACE VS BIBLE RE BIBLE CODES AT MAR BIBLECODESDIGEST.COM)
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To: 1Old Pro
"Sounds like the Mother of all plans....destined for failure"

We have to see to it...I think...

38 posted on 04/03/2003 4:18:44 PM PST by STOCKHRSE (God Bless and keep our Commander In Chief....We are expendable...)
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To: CA Conservative
" One idea floated that has merit would be to have a Republican senator raise a point of order during the debate on Estrada, challenging the use of the filibuster against judges on Constitutional grounds. With Cheney sitting as president of the Senate, he could then rule that a filibuster on judicial nominees was out of order, and proceed to an up or down vote.

Wish they would just do it....Guess timing is everything...It seems like the longer they wait the "behinder" they get....IMHO.

I get the distinct impression the LEADERSHIP is skiddish on some important issues...Maybe it's just me...

39 posted on 04/03/2003 4:35:45 PM PST by STOCKHRSE (God Bless and keep our Commander In Chief....We are expendable...)
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To: STOCKHRSE
Meanwhile, those seats go unfilled, right? Maybe it's time to try to simplify this problem and make an advertisement to inform the public. ( Is that not allowed? Have they blocked free speech yet? I can't remember.) How about a showing a bunch of empty seats and then the smiling faces of Levin and Stabenow? "The courts are clogged. They like it this way."

Don't forget what they do when it comes to U.S. Attorneys. If memory serves, the Fat-Hipped Rapist fired every U.S. Attorney in the country at one time. I might be mistaken about that, but I know one thing: there was this city with a corrupt mayor, see. That mayor was one small part of the machine which backed Clinton. So of course he delivered the votes to the Clintster. Before and during Clinton's first presidential election, this mayor was being investigated by the U.S. Attorney. Some convictions of his cronies had been won. Just in time, the Clintster got elected, and proceeded to get rid of the U.S. Attorney. The investigation was dead. Saved the mayor's corrupt butt in the nick of time.
40 posted on 04/03/2003 9:49:11 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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