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48 Hours In Hell
Gospel Tract and Bible Society ^ | 1888 | John W. Reynolds

Posted on 05/07/2014 10:00:03 PM PDT by OneVike

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To: thecodont

Your welcome.


41 posted on 05/08/2014 11:32:41 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: thecodont; the_daug; Berlin_Freeper; HiTech RedNeck; imardmd1; Chainmail; The_Media_never_lie; ...

This isn’t directed to any one persons comment, but more of a general statement as to why I posted the story, and what I believe.

First off, thanks for those who defended my attempt to point out the obvious of stating what one needs to do to be saved and how I did not mean to accuse anyone of not being a Christian, but just wanted to point out the error of our way when we think we are real good when nothing we do is good. It’s all dung to God.

I am not pinging this to fabian, because he doesn’t even believe in the same Christ as we do, by his own admittance.

I do not believe the man in the story died, even if he thinks he did. I believe the_daug said it best, by the idea the guy was probably oxygen deprived and not dead. deep sleep maybe, and I think God used a dream to wake him up, not physically, but spiritually.

God has often times used dreams to speak to us. So no, he was not dead, and I should have added this when i posted the story. For that I apologize.

I also agree that the very fact that hell exists should tell us why we should change our lives. Hell was created for Satan and the angels who fell with him, but God will send any human there if that is their choice, He would rather not and I believe it hurts Him to do so when we reject Him for such a terrible place out of ignorance.

I posted this story, just because it was a very good read.

I cannot remember his name, but there was a very good well known preacher from the 1800’s who said that if every man spent 5 seconds in hell they would never go against God.

I agree, but then we would not be choosing him off His Word, but instead off empirical evidence we see. God wants us to chose Him on faith and without human verifiable proof other than his Word.

The man in this story, was scared straight one could say. As I said, I think it was but a dream. No more than a dream I had the other day of being in a very dangerous situation that could or never take place. I am not Joseph or Daniel so I cannot interpret dreams. If this man’s dream saved his soul than it’s a great testimony.

I am sure I wrote too much, so that someone will take something I said to task. Well, so be it.

God bless each and everyone of you and thanks for your response, and I again apologize if anything I wrote insulted anyone, I did not do so with that result in mind.


42 posted on 05/08/2014 11:55:52 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike

what made me think it was a false story,,is I have trouble believing demons would speak in the king james english,,,


43 posted on 05/08/2014 12:04:17 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: OneVike

Thanks 1vike...

One point - does God actually “send” people to hell?

I think not. I think hell is simply the default for those who refuse to choose to be with God forever. He won’t force anyone into his eternal presence that doesn’t choose to do so willingly.


44 posted on 05/08/2014 12:13:14 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: fabian
They are one in intent and spirit.

The Mormons post that lie, too.

Jesus didn't say they were one in intent and spirit.

HE said they were one. Period.

45 posted on 05/08/2014 12:13:34 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: MrB

Ever read about the final judgement?


46 posted on 05/08/2014 12:36:21 PM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: MrB

We are in agreement.

He gives us a choice, but we are the ones who choose.


47 posted on 05/08/2014 1:00:31 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike

I could give you much more conclusive scriptures that show that Jesus himself never claimed to be God. He is the son and savior, but Satan had to convince the gullible that he is more. Sad. But that is the apostasy that was foretold.


48 posted on 05/08/2014 1:39:13 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: metmom

Not everything said is direct translation, nor literal. You guys just do not get it. And I believe in the savior, you guys believe in our savior as God...yet even in the bible it says no man has seen God. Jesus is OBVIOUSLY the son and their is obviously only one God as stated throughout the bible. I am sorry to write this, but you guys are pathetic in your willful ignorance.


49 posted on 05/08/2014 1:49:52 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: OneVike

Please do not pray for me because He needs real Christians to serve Him...not gullible and brainwashable people that try and convince others that our dear savior is a God! Shame on you.


50 posted on 05/08/2014 2:10:18 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: fabian

You want we should discuss original intent by discussing it in the original language?

I know enough about Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koinonia Greek the Bible was originally written in..

We can discuss it in the original language, and I will prove to you that you are wrong, because Jesus is God.

I would love to, because it’s a lot easier explaining it in the original language.

It’s english that allows heretics like your false teacher to confuse ignorant untrained lost souls and lazy Christians who fail to read the Bible on a daily basis to believe that crap.

So go ahead, ask me anything, Sound fair?


51 posted on 05/08/2014 2:21:28 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike

“Father, if it is possible, take this cup from me. Either way, your will be done.” “no one comes to the Father but by me.” sorry for the paraphrase...”no man has seen the father.” !
You guys twist and turn to try and make him lot to be God. But clearly his own words throughout scriptures prove out that he only did his Fathers will. You can try and point to other scriptures to uphold your misvotten belief, but Jesus himself proves you very wrong. Period. And all your stuffed knowledge in the world will not change that...only gets in your way.


52 posted on 05/08/2014 2:33:08 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: fabian

Then you’re in violation of Exodus 20:2-3 where God says that we are to have no other gods before Him.

If Jesus is not God, then going through Him to get to God is putting another god before Him, breaking the first commandment.

If Jesus is God, then it’s not an issue.

Jesus made it VERY clear that He was God. He said so in so many words and the religious leaders understood that claim very well, too. THAT is why they kept trying to have Him crucified.

Satan loves to impugn the deity of Christ. He doesn’t want us to believe in Immanuel - God with Us.


53 posted on 05/08/2014 2:33:26 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

Actually, you are very confused. That scripture refers to make no other gods before the one and only...which you guys are violating. Going through the love of Jesus to God is not making Jesus God at all...very illogical thinking on your part.
And as I wrote earlier, Jesus made it clear that he does his father’s will. God does not do anyone’s will.
.he is THE will! Daaaa!


54 posted on 05/08/2014 2:38:05 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: metmom

for being supposed Christians, I can’t believe how ignorant you guys are about the obvious! Very sad...that you will probably never admit to your gullibility.


55 posted on 05/08/2014 2:40:22 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: fabian
Bible Verses About Jesus Is God

John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14 - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John 10:30 - I and [my] Father are one.

Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

John 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Hebrews 1:8 - But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Titus 2:13 - Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Colossians 1:16 - For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Matthew 1:23 - Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Revelation 1:8 - I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

1 John 5:20 - And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Colossians 2:9 - For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

2 Corinthians 4:4 - In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

John 1:3 - All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Isaiah 44:24 - Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I [am] the LORD that maketh all [things]; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

Isaiah 7:14 - Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

1 Timothy 2:5 - For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

John 1:18 - No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him].

Matthew 28:9 - And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.

Isaiah 43:11 - I, [even] I, [am] the LORD; and beside me [there is] no saviour.

Isaiah 42:8 - I [am] the LORD: that [is] my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

Exodus 3:14 - And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Hebrews 13:8 - Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Hebrews 1:3 - Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Hebrews 1:1-3 - God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,   (Read More...)

1 Timothy 3:16 - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Acts 20:28 - Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

John 14:10 - Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

John 14:9 - Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father?

John 8:28 - Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am [he], and [that] I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

John 5:18 - Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

John 4:24 - God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

Mark 12:29 - And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Matthew 4:10 - Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Matthew 3:16-17 - And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:   (Read More...)

Isaiah 44:6 - Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me [there is] no God.

Isaiah 43:10 - Ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I [am] he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

Proverbs 30:4 - Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what [is] his name, and what [is] his son's name, if thou canst tell?

Genesis 1:1 - In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Revelation 19:10-11 - And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See [thou do it] not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.   (Read More...)

Revelation 1:17-18 - And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:   (Read More...)

1 John 5:7 - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

2 Peter 1:1 - Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

James 2:19 - Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Hebrews 2:14 - Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Hebrews 1:10 - And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

Philippians 2:10 - That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things] under the earth;

2 Corinthians 5:19 - To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Romans 9:5 - Whose [are] the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ [came], who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

Romans 1:20 - For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Acts 7:59 - And they stoned Stephen, calling upon [God], and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.

Acts 2:22 - Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

John 20:31 - But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

John 17:3 - And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

John 14:16 - And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

John 5:22-23 - For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:   (Read More...)

John 3:13 - And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of man which is in heaven.

Luke 2:11 - For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

Mark 2:7 - Why doth this [man] thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?

Matthew 14:33 - Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

Matthew 14:25 - And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea.

Matthew 1:21 - And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Zechariah 14:9 - And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

Micah 5:2 - But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, [though] thou be little among the thousands of Judah, [yet] out of thee shall he come forth unto me [that is] to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth [have been] from of old, from everlasting.

Hosea 13:4 - Yet I [am] the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for [there is] no saviour beside me.

Isaiah 63:16 - Doubtless thou [art] our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O LORD, [art] our father, our redeemer; thy name [is] from everlasting.

Isaiah 45:18 - For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I [am] the LORD; and [there is] none else.

Isaiah 44:8 - Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared [it]? ye [are] even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, [there is] no God; I know not [any].

Isaiah 43:10-11 - Ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I [am] he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.   (Read More...)

Psalms 110:1 - (A Psalm of David.) The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Psalms 100:3-4 - Know ye that the LORD he [is] God: [it is] he [that] hath made us, and not we ourselves; [we are] his people, and the sheep of his pasture.   (Read More...)

Psalms 2:12 - Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish [from] the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed [are] all they that put their trust in him.

Psalms 2:2 - The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying],

Revelation 19:1 - And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:

Revelation 17:14 - These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him [are] called, and chosen, and faithful.

Revelation 4:2 - And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and [one] sat on the throne.

Jude 1:25 - To the only wise God our Saviour, [be] glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

1 John 3:16 - Hereby perceive we the love [of God], because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down [our] lives for the brethren.

Hebrews 2:9 - But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Hebrews 1:6 - And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Hebrews 1:1-14 - God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,   (Read More...)

Titus 1:2 - In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

1 Timothy 6:16 - Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom [be] honour and power everlasting. Amen.

1 Thessalonians 3:13 - To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.

Colossians 1:19 - For it pleased [the Father] that in him should all fulness dwell;

Philippians 2:6-7 - Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:   (Read More...)

Ephesians 4:5 - One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Ephesians 1:3 - Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly [places] in Christ:

Galatians 3:20 - Now a mediator is not [a mediator] of one, but God is one.

2 Corinthians 13:14 - The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, [be] with you all. Amen. ([The second [epistle] to the Corinthians was written from Philippi, [a city] of Macedonia, by Titus and Lucas.])

2 Corinthians 11:31 - The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.

1 Corinthians 10:4 - And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

1 Corinthians 8:6 - But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him.

Romans 15:6 - That ye may with one mind [and] one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Romans 3:30 - Seeing [it is] one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Acts 9:5 - And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: [it is] hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

Some scripture references/categories courtesy of Open Bible .info under CC BY 3.0

 


56 posted on 05/08/2014 3:12:49 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: imardmd1

Well put. I was thinking the same thing, that this was a fictional story from a creative mind. What that makes me wonder is, “Can a person come to the saving knowledge of Jesus through a lie?”


57 posted on 05/08/2014 4:07:16 PM PDT by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: OneVike

Those Scriptures gave me a lift. Thanks.


58 posted on 05/08/2014 4:23:56 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: ScubieNuc
“Can a person come to the saving knowledge of Jesus through a lie?”

I think you've made your point. This rhetorical question is one which demands the answer, "No."

59 posted on 05/08/2014 4:29:18 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: ScubieNuc

What others mean for evil, God can and has used for good.

It matters not how they come to believe, because if they truly believe then soon their eyes will open to the truth and see the lie of those who are wrong.

I know a gentleman who gave his life to Christ in a cult. Within a couple of Months he began questioning the things he was hearing. He looked into it and soon left the church and joined one that was biblical based.

Many have come to know God without learning the truth, but once they do, God begins speaking to them. God wants His children to follow Him, and will give them the tools and teachers to follow if they are truly born again.

That is because salvation is a heart thing. Not a building or denomination thing. God calls us all, but only His sheep hear His voice.


60 posted on 05/08/2014 4:29:25 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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