The Neverending Story (The Christian Chronicles)

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[RobbyS]

Unbe;ivers regard all religion as "smoke and mirrors." To them all pray is futile because God is deaf to our pleas. We believe that the Church consists of all those in Christ, living and dead. If my mother loves me now, she will love me all the more when she is with God. Because of the blinders have been removed, she will have even more concern for me, especially if she sees me drifting away from the Lord. All she can do now is to petition God. You believe that she-and again I am talking about MY mother--has no power on earth. But might not God allow her to warn me or comfort me just as she did while she was here with me?

[pegleg]

LOL. These foreign words are supposed to impress you boys.

No Steven. If you want to criticize Catholics you should at least understand what you're criticizing.

[Havoc]

Now, let me make this clear: If I ask a Saint to pray for me, I am asking him to unite his prayers to God with mine - just the same as I might ask you. I do not worship or put on par ANYTHING or ANYONE with God.

It sounds so innocent, right up to the point that you either realize it's sin or realize they can't hear you and you're wasting your time, or realize that you aren't just asking for prayer. 'oh st. Etho, heal this wart on my buttocks..' It's funny; but, it's also illustrative. It's sin.

[Wordsmith]

Pride, LOL. The first bullet of the persecuted is the charge of your intent - always looks worst when you're caught and without cover. Amazing. Pride at what?

My only intention in asking you whether or not you loved the people on this forum, and were trying to love them more, was to help you. If you want to take it as me somehow trying to act superior, fine. Your choice. Here is the post that sparked my initial comment to you:

To: OLD REGGIE

Get's pretty quiet when their defense falls out from under them. All that time building up the misdirections and when the smoke blows clear, they've no more defense other than they have decided to beleive what men taught them rather than what scripture states. That isn't Christianity - that is philosophy and paganism.

1717 posted on 4/6/02 1:03 PM Pacific by Havoc

This despite the fact that RobbyS had posted on the topic an hour earlier on a Saturday afternoon. I don't see how you were “defending Scripture” with this post. IMO, the room got quiet and you drew a conclusion about why. IMO, the conclusion you drew doesn’t speak well about the state of your judgement at the time you posted. I posted to you later that evening to try to help you see this. You don’t agree. Fine. Personally, I struggle against the sin of pride and lack of love every single hour every single day and appreciate it when God through others brings it to my attention. If you are not afflicted with the same sin, then I’m grateful to God.

I don’t see where my posting about this anymore is profitable for either of us, so I’ll drop the subject. If you want to have the last word, go right ahead.

[biblewonk]

The Litany of the Blessed Virgin Mary

Lord, have mercy Chrlst, have mercy Lord, have mercy	Lord, have mercy Christ have mercy Lord, have mercy
God our Father ln Heaven God the Son, Redeemer of the world God the Holy Spirit Holy Trinity, one God	have mercy on us have mercy on us have mercy on us have mercy on us
Holy Mary Holy Mother of God Most honored of virgins Mother of Christ Mother of the Church Mother of divine grace Mother most pure Mother of chaste love Mother and virgin Sinless Mother Dearest of Mothers Model of motherhood Mother of good counsel Mother of our Creator Mother of our Savior	pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us
Virgin most wise Virgin rightly praised Virgin rightly renowned Virgin most powerful Virgin gentle in mercy Faithful Virgin	pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us
Mirror of justice Throne of wisdom Cause of our joy	pray for us pray for us pray for us
Shrine of the Spirit Glory of Israel Vessel of selfless devotion Mystical Rose Tower of David Tower of ivory House of gold Ark of the covenant Gate of heaven Morning star Health of the sick Refuge of sinners Comfort of the troubled Help of Christians	pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us
Queen of angels Queen of patriarchs and prophets Queen of apostles and martyrs Queen of confessors and virgins Queen of all saints Queen conceived without sin Queen assumed in to heaven Queen of the rosary Queen of families Queen of peace	pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us pray for us
Blessed be the name of the Virgin Mary	now and forever

Thanks for helping me post this newgeezer. I'm sure many will just love it.

[Havoc]

What was the most universal language of the time?

That's easy - The trade language: Greek. The largest Empire on Earth was Egypt prior to it's conquer by Rome. But even the Egyptians learned to deal in Greek. It was the trade language of the world. Today it's equivalent is English.

[OLD REGGIE]

Got my new T1 internet connection at work. Pages load almost instantaneously (I've seen it up to 67Kbs, or about five times faster than our old ISDN, and 12-14 times faster than dialup). Its a beautiful day! :o)

I live in an area which can't recieve DSL, (country hick) and my only real options are dial up or Cable. My cable company, Adelphia, is pushing a product called Powerlink and I was interested. I called the local office and told them I would come in for a demo. The answer was; "oh we don't run it, why don't you just sign on to Powerlink.com and learn for yourself". Powerlink.com is never up and the local office doesn't even use it themselves. Great testimonial. I am still using my barely satisfactory dial up. No, I won't consider sattelite. It is too expensive for my taste.

[OLD REGGIE]

One other humurous thing from that generally unhumurous night: When my daughter saw a reflection of her face she saw all her bruises and scratches. She noticed both of her lips were fat now and she said, "Oh great, now I have Julia Roberts lips." ;^)

I like your kids. They have their heads on straight.

[pegleg]

I'm sure many will just love it.

Beautiful. Wonk you’re a mind reader.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

No Steven. If you want to criticize Catholics you should at least understand what you're criticizing.

I understood enough to know I needed to leave. Thanx for listening.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

No Steven. If you want to criticize Catholics you should at least understand what you're criticizing.

I can't judge and now I can't critisize. What can I do oh great one? Lick your boots?

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Prayer to Mary, Mother of Grace It becomes you to be mindful of us, as you stand near him who granted you all graces, for you are the Mother of God and our Queen. Help us for the sake of the King, the Lord God and Master who was born of you. For this reason, you are called full of grace. Remember us, most holy Virgin, and bestow on us gifts from the riches of your graces, Virgin full of graces.
St Athanasius, Bishop and Doctor

Sorry, but I can't give you a pass on this.

You have been telling us over and over that you only ask Mary to pray for you when you pray to her.

This prayer asks Mary to bestow gifts on you. How can this not be asking for more that for Mary to pray for you. Your silence is speaking volumes. The "love" answer doesn't float Robby.

Becky

[pegleg]

I can't judge and now I can't critisize.

You can do anything you want. Remember, we all have free will. All I said was if you want to criticize Catholics you should understand what you’re criticizing. Based on your responses, you still don’t know.

What can I do oh great one? Lick your boots?

What you can do is grow up.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

You can do anything you want. Remember, we all have free will. All I said was if you want to criticize Catholics you should understand what you’re criticizing. Based on your responses, you still don’t know.

I understand what I critcize. You're just programmed for arrogance.

What you can do is grow up.

Likewise.

[nate4one]

So what's the solution to the Middle East mayhem? Well, frankly, I don't think there is a man-made solution to the violence. But, if there is one, it needs to begin with truth. Pretending will only lead to more chaos. Treating a 5,000-year-old birthright backed by overwhelming historical and archaeological evidence equally with illegitimate claims, wishes and wants gives diplomacy and peacekeeping a bad name.

Extremely interesting I assure you. But again, let's take a look at what this means.

America MUST give back this land to the natives. They can form as many states as they wish named after their different tribal names and we MUST become citizens of their land or get out!

Now, I refered to Palestine as the "type" of the American Indians. But we can also see Israel in this light.

We have to move on. What now?

Nations cannot use 5000 year old birthrights to reclaim land in these days. Land is won through war. Let Israel fight their war with these rogue, false nations until it is done!!

Palestinians, even when they were Jordanian or anything else, still lived there before 1948. Since Israel reclaimed the land through war, they have the right to either defend it all, forfeit some, or continue to listen to our Presidents interference and perpetually suffer from terrorism for the rest of Muslim and Judaism history!

[al_c]

Good afternoon, everyone. I, for one, am glad it's Monday. What a weekend ... got only a portion of my yardwork done before the great flood set in. I sure wish it would do that during the week so I can have my weekends back. More rain in the forecast for this coming weekend. :o(

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How can I trust God so completely? What if he won't come through for me?

Thoughts like these, so familiar to us, may have been running through the mind of King Ahaz when Isaiah told him: "Ask a sign of the Lord your God" (Isaiah 7:11).

Monday, April 8, 2002

First Reading: Responsorial Psalm: Second Reading: Gospel:

Isaiah 7:10-14 Psalms 40:7-11 Hebrews 10:4-10  Luke 1:26-38 It is better for a man to be silent and be [a Christian], than to talk and not to be one. It is good to teach, if he who speaks also acts. There is then one Teacher, who spake and it was done; while even those things which He did in silence are worthy of the Father. He who possesses the word of Jesus, is truly able to hear even His very silence, that he may be perfect, and may both act as he speaks, and be recognized by his silence.   -- St. Ignatius

On the surface, Ahaz's response seemed humble: He didn't want to test God. But Ahaz's refusal to ask for a sign revealed not humility but a reluctance to place his fate and the fate of his people in the hands of the Lord. Powerful armies stood poised to attack Jerusalem, and Ahaz was afraid. He was contemplating making alliances with Babylon or Egypt to help defeat these foes, but Isaiah told him that God would do the fighting and that alliances with unbelieving nations would fail.

Isaiah also told the king that he could ask for any sign he chose, as a guarantee. But Ahaz resisted. To ask for a sign would obligate him to God and call for an end to negotiations with other countries. What an affront! God had been so good to Jerusalem for so long, and still Ahaz couldn't bring himself to trust in him! God gave Ahaz a sign anyway, a sign that received its ultimate fulfillment when the angel Gabriel visited Mary: A young woman would bear a son (Isaiah 7:14).

God doesn't want us to trudge along on our own power. He loves us too much to watch us languishing, resigned to our fate as we try to solve our problems on our own. That's why he sent his Son to us in the first place: to raise us up to a new life. Let's not be like Ahaz, resigned to the status quo, assuming that we are destined forever to struggle with sin or to groan at painful memories. Jesus wants to transform every area of our lives! So let's surrender ourselves to him, believing that he has come to be born in our hearts.

"Lord, your love takes my breath away! I believe that you really do hear my prayers and see my need. Thank you for sending your Son into the world for me."

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Have a great day, everyone!

AC

[malakhi]

My cable company, Adelphia, is pushing a product called Powerlink and I was interested. I called the local office and told them I would come in for a demo. The answer was; "oh we don't run it, why don't you just sign on to Powerlink.com and learn for yourself".

I know some of the cable companies have had bad problems with their cable modem service. My brother has cable modem access at home, and has been happy with it. In Wisconsin, deregulation is forcing the cable companies to share their lines the same way the phone company does, and you can now get cable modem service through a provider other than the local cable monopoly. Another good alternative is ISDN. Its not as fast as cable, but a good deal faster than dialup, and probably costs around the same as cable service. And its much more available than DSL.

[malakhi]

"Glory of Israel"? "Tower of David" (what does that even mean?) "Ark of the covenant"?

I don't think so.

[malakhi]

Land is won through war. Let Israel fight their war with these rogue, false nations until it is done!!

I agree.

[malakhi]

Hey, look at this!!!

A young woman would bear a son (Isaiah 7:14).