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Alpine melt reveals ancient life [ Schnidejoch glacier ]
BBC News ^ | Sunday, August 24, 2008 | Imogen Foulkes

Posted on 08/26/2008 5:51:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Melting alpine glaciers are revealing fascinating clues to Neolithic life in the high mountains...

Everyone knows the story of Oetzi the Ice Man, found in an Austrian glacier in 1991. Oetzi was discovered at an altitude of over 3,000m. He lived in about 3,300 BC, leading to speculation that the Alps may have had more human habitation than previously suspected. Now, more dramatic findings from the 2,756m Schnidejoch glacier in Switzerland have confirmed the theory. It all started at the end of the long hot summer of 2003, when a Swiss couple, hiking across a melting Schnidejoch, came across a piece of wood that aroused their curiosity...

careful examination and carbon dating revealed the piece of wood to be an arrow quiver made of birch bark, dating from about 3000 BC...

At first, the news of the find was kept quiet; historians feared treasure hunters on the Schnidejoch as the ice melted. But teams of archaeologists went up, and more and more artefacts were discovered...

Some of the leather found, and a fragment of a wooden bowl, date from 4500 BC, older even than Oetzi, making them the oldest objects ever found in the Alps. And from later periods, a Bronze Age pin has been discovered, as well as Roman coins and a fibula, and items dating from the early Middle Ages.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: bronzeage; catastrophism; climatechange; environment; glacier; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs; goodnews; neolithic; paleoclimatology; romanempire; schnidejoch; switzerland
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Bit by bit, the Neolithic way of life is being revealed A reconstruction of the shoes these mountain people used to wear
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1 posted on 08/26/2008 5:51:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 08/26/2008 5:52:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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3 posted on 08/26/2008 5:53:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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Now they’ll most certainly find a Yeti!
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4 posted on 08/26/2008 5:57:27 PM PDT by brytlea (Obama--Jimmy Carter's Second Term)
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To: SunkenCiv
Interestingly, one of the Earth's chillier periods coincides with the decline of the Roman empire.

But...but...I thought global warming was supposed to destroy all of humanity! /sarc

5 posted on 08/26/2008 5:58:59 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Don't steal. John McCain and Barack Obama hate competition.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Gee, what are the odds that a backwoods caveman would have eating utensil artifacts which were over 1500 years old from his age, in his possession and using them in his same abode when he was frozen for another 3000 years?

..and to think we only have ‘antiques’ that are 20-200 years old in our proximity, and generally not as closer guarded as this poor fellow must have regarded them. IMHO 1500 years is quite a long time for a family to keep a bowl around.

Maybe the dating methods reveal more about their theories than any evidence they have found.


6 posted on 08/26/2008 6:00:15 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wow! That means there was a time the area wasn’t buried in ice...maybe this “Global Warming” is really the world returning to its natural state!


7 posted on 08/26/2008 6:07:35 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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Thats a nice looking knapping kit he had.


8 posted on 08/26/2008 6:33:46 PM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: SunkenCiv

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,357366,00.html

A New Alpine Melt Theory
By Hilmar Schmundt

The Alpine glaciers are shrinking, that much we know. But new research suggests that in the time of the Roman Empire, they were smaller than today. And 7,000 years ago they probably weren’t around at all. A group of climatologists have come up with a controversial new theory on how the Alps must have looked over the ages...

article dated May, 2005.


9 posted on 08/26/2008 6:37:40 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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"But what we do know is that the climate has fluctuated throughout history; in the past the driving force for the changes was the Earth's orbital pattern, now the driving force is green house gas emissions."

Martin is an ass. - Friedrich II (Rare reference to German philosopher Mendelssohn.)

10 posted on 08/26/2008 6:49:17 PM PDT by kitchen (Any day without a fair tax thread is a good day.)
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To: Cvengr

That’s not in the article.

The quiver was left somewhere up in the Alps 300 years after the Iceman croaked. The other artifacts were found in various spots, and have various ages, and none of them appear to have anything to do with the Iceman.


11 posted on 08/26/2008 6:54:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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:’D

The global warming demagogues should be strung up with piano wire, without trial. But I mean that in the nicest way. :’)


12 posted on 08/26/2008 6:56:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

My mistake,..thanks. I was mistaken,


13 posted on 08/27/2008 3:55:07 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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