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'Dutch' Batavians more Roman than thought
AlphaGalileo ^ | October 22, 2009 | Netherlands Organization for Scientific Research

Posted on 10/23/2009 8:23:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

The Batavians, who lived in the Netherlands at the start of the Christian era were far more Roman than was previously thought. After just a few decades of Roman occupation, the Batavians had become so integrated that they cooked, built and bathed in a Roman manner. Dutch researcher Stijn Heeren... studied excavated artefacts and traces of settlements and burial fields in the neighbourhood of Tiel. In Dutch history, the Batavians are often presented as a brave people who resisted a cruel oppressor. But Stijn Heeren has now demonstrated that these 'simple people' also adopted a lot of Roman customs. According to him the small farming communities changed into villages where Roman practices made their entrance... By studying the chronology of the excavation site and by analysing several specific categories of finds, Heeren could show how and when the locals started to participate in the economic, military and cultural structures of the Roman Empire. The archaeologist discovered that within a few decades of Roman occupation, the Batavians used Roman ingredients in their cooking, that the farmers used makeup and oil in the same way as the Romans in their baths and that they built their farms according to the Roman style.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: batavians; dietandcuisine; godsgravesglyphs; history; hypercaust; hypocaust; netherlands; romanbaths; romanempire; science

1 posted on 10/23/2009 8:23:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting.


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3 posted on 10/23/2009 8:27:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting...


4 posted on 10/23/2009 8:28:00 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SunkenCiv

Batavian Auxilliaries were akey factor in the success of the Claudian invasion of Britain, especially in the river crossing battles.


5 posted on 10/23/2009 8:28:54 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: ErnBatavia; SunkenCiv

PINGVS MAXIMVS


6 posted on 10/23/2009 8:51:26 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: SunkenCiv

En tochus, niet omnia via naar Romam leidit.


7 posted on 10/23/2009 8:58:16 PM PDT by cornelis
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The Romans in Ireland
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8 posted on 10/23/2009 9:06:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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9 posted on 10/23/2009 9:06:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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10 posted on 10/23/2009 9:12:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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11 posted on 10/23/2009 9:15:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: FrdmLvr; Tennessee Nana; PzLdr; martin_fierro

Thanks!


12 posted on 10/23/2009 9:16:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: PzLdr

Batavian auxiliaries were highly valued in the Roman Army for their ability to swim themselves and their horses across rivers, leading to unpleasant surprises among the forces opposing Roman Armies at fords.


13 posted on 10/24/2009 2:23:36 PM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: SunkenCiv

It would be interesting to see how they adapted the Roman building style to a cool and damp climate. I’ve heard their buildings were more enclosed than typical Roman homes and shops.


14 posted on 10/24/2009 3:36:33 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Mr. Flyingsaucerballoonboymediawhoreman - this Bud's for you!)
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To: colorado tanker

The hypercaust originated to deal with some of the cooler weather in some of the early conquests, and really came into its own in places with (what the Romans must have considered) real winter weather.


15 posted on 10/25/2009 5:42:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

It seems that the folks in northern and western Europe, after a few decades being brought into submission thought that the Roman Way of Living was the best thing since sliced bread. Even people not under Roman rule adopted it as far as they could. The eastern part of the Empire, formerly part of the Hellenistic world, was not so fond of Roman culture but admired their abilities in construction and in stable pubic administration (except for the Jews, of course).


16 posted on 10/25/2009 6:11:40 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (He said red, yellow, black or white, All are equal in his sight, Mmm, mmm, mm!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
stable pubic administration
What kind??? ;')
(except for the Jews, of course)
Yeah, one might say the Romans mishandled that situation. /understatement

There were so many Jews still living under Parthian rule in Babylon and points east, and so many commercial connections among them (and to points east), it clearly would have made a bunch of sense for the Romans to work *with* the Jews (who, at their peak, comprised up to 15 per cent of the entire population of the Empire) to take a "peace through commerce" approach to entice the Parthians into peaceful coexistence. The Hellenistic influence throughout the old Persian imperial territory would also have been a benefit.
17 posted on 10/25/2009 6:37:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

I do not think that the Parthians OR the Romans were really into balance of power type relationships. Submit or die was their approach to powerful neighbors.


18 posted on 10/25/2009 7:02:05 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (He said red, yellow, black or white, All are equal in his sight, Mmm, mmm, mm!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

:’)


19 posted on 10/25/2009 7:43:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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