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Cleopatra Killed by Drug Cocktail?
Discovery News ^ | Thursday, July 1, 2010 | Rossella Lorenzi

Posted on 07/02/2010 6:04:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Cleopatra, the last queen of Egypt, died from swallowing a lethal drug cocktail and not from a snake bite, a new study claims. According to Christoph Schäfer, a German historian and professor at the University of Trier, the legendary beauty queen was unlikely to have committed suicide by letting an asp -- an Egyptian cobra -- sink into her flesh... "The Roman historian Cassius Dio, writing about 200 years after Cleopatra's demise, stated that she died a quiet and pain-free death, which is not compatible with a cobra bite. Indeed, the snake's venom would have caused a painful and disfiguring death," Schäfer said. According to German toxicologist Dietrich Mebs, a poison specialist taking part in the study, the symptoms occurring after an asp bite are very unpleasant, and include vomiting, diarrhea and respiratory failure.... Ancient texts also record that Cleopatra's two handmaidens died with her -- something very unlikely if she had died of a snake bite, said Schäfer... Schaefer and Mebs believe that Cleopatra chose a drug cocktail made of opium, aconitum (also known as wolfsbane) and hemlock, a highly poisonous plant from the parsley family that is believed to have been used to poison Socrates.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: cleopatra; egypt; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; juliuscaesar; markantony; romanempire
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1 posted on 07/02/2010 6:04:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 07/02/2010 6:04:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv
a drug cocktail made of opium, aconitum (also known as wolfsbane) and hemlock

Wait a minute, aren't those the ingredients of the ancient drink known as "a snake bite?"

3 posted on 07/02/2010 6:39:13 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Obama suffers from decision-deficit disorder." Oliver North 6/25/10)
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To: SunkenCiv

4 posted on 07/02/2010 6:54:33 PM PDT by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Finally, the money shot

"I believe finding her body and applying forensic methods of analysis would be the only way to solve the mystery of her death."

I can go along with this theory: Cleopatra narrows it down to two choices. Then she says "you, slave, and you, slave" and observes them die. Then she picks.

Can I have that grant now?

5 posted on 07/02/2010 7:28:30 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: SunkenCiv


6 posted on 07/02/2010 8:59:15 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: SunkenCiv

Is there some reason why anyone care about this?


7 posted on 07/02/2010 9:08:09 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: fortheDeclaration

I find it interesting. But then, I really dig the History Channel and stuff like that.


8 posted on 07/02/2010 10:02:09 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: fortheDeclaration

you did.


9 posted on 07/02/2010 10:28:22 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: TNdandelion
I enjoy history also, but what relevance is this to anything?

I had heard that the reason she chose the bite of the asp was because it was painless.

She had tried various poisons out on animals and slaves and saw that this one was the quickest and most painless.

10 posted on 07/02/2010 11:49:46 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: TNdandelion

“The truth of the matter no one knows” (Plutarch, LXXXVI.2).


11 posted on 07/02/2010 11:59:21 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: JoeProBono

Mark Antony just had quite enough of her $hit.


12 posted on 07/03/2010 1:39:39 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: bigheadfred

Wow, great! Of course, the slaves at the crime scene died after their queen, because they had to make sure her body looked just right. But testing the poisons that way would have been the preferred method.


13 posted on 07/03/2010 5:51:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: TNdandelion

Thanks!


14 posted on 07/03/2010 5:53:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: bobby.223

/bingo


15 posted on 07/03/2010 5:54:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: NonValueAdded

:’D I have my doubts about the hemlock ingredient. That one is a slow, painful killer — assuming it’s the Socrates hemlock.


16 posted on 07/03/2010 5:57:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Plutarch - the Greek historian - continues to be the main source of information about the last Ptolemy. And what a source he is!

http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/AntCleo.html


17 posted on 07/03/2010 7:53:02 AM PDT by eleni121 (But now, he that has a moneybag take it; without a sword let him sell his garment, and buy one.)
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To: eleni121

Thank you for the link!


18 posted on 07/03/2010 6:06:25 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: fortheDeclaration
Apparently, the truth is a bit of a mystery and people disagree on the subject.

I don't find this subject to be so controversial that folks need to be so critical of its posting. Shoo!

19 posted on 07/03/2010 7:02:26 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: TNdandelion

Wasn’t critical of its posting, I was critical of a historian spending so much time on it.


20 posted on 07/04/2010 3:34:37 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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