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Goths vs. Greeks: Epic Ancient Battle Revealed in Newfound Text [3rd c AD, Thermopylae]
LiveScience (via CachedView.com) ^ | March 18, 2016 | Owen Jarus

Posted on 03/20/2016 5:08:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Fragments of an ancient Greek text telling of an invasion of Greece by the Goths during the third century A.D. have been discovered in the Austrian National Library. The text includes a battle fought at the pass of Thermopylae.

Researchers used spectral imaging to enhance the fragments, making it possible to read them. The analysis suggests the fragments were copied in the 11th century A.D. and are from a text that was written in the third-century A.D. by an Athens writer named Dexippus.

During Dexippus' life, Greece (part of the Roman Empire) and Rome struggled to repel a series of Gothic invasions...

In the text, Dexippus said the commander of the Greek force, a general named Marianus, tried to raise morale by reminding the Greeks of the battles their ancestors had fought at Thermopylae in the past, including the famous fifth-century B.C. battle between the Persians and a Spartan-led force...

The Thermopylae fragment is one of several written by Dexippus, discovered in the Austrian National Library book, that discuss the invasion of Greece by the Goths. The Thermopylae battle fragment was first published in 2014 in German in the journal Wiener Studies by Gunther Martin and Jana Grusková, researchers at the University of Bern and Comenius University in Bratislava, respectively.

Martin and Grusková have published several articles in German and English on the other fragments. Some of the fragments tell of an attempt by the Roman Emperor Decius (who lived A.D. 201-251) to stop the Gothic forces, as described by Martin and Grusková in 2014 in the journal Greek, Roman and Byzantine Studies. In those fragments, Dexippus wrote that Emperor Decius suffered a series of setbacks, losing territory and men.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: battle; decius; dexippus; godsgravesglyphs; goths; gothsgravesglyphs; gothsgravesgreeks; greece; greeks; gunthermartin; janagruskova; marianus; romanempire; thermopylae
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Researchers used spectral imaging to read the writing on this fragment, which details the third-century Thermopylae battle. Credit: Vienna, Austrian National Library, manuscript Hist. gr. 73, fol. 193r lower text. Spectral imaging by the Early Manuscripts Electronic Library. Processed image by David Kelbe. © Project FWF P 24523-G19

Researchers used spectral imaging to read the writing on this fragment, which details the third-century Thermopylae battle. Credit: Vienna, Austrian National Library, manuscript Hist. gr. 73, fol. 193r lower text. Spectral imaging by the Early Manuscripts Electronic Library. Processed image by David Kelbe. © Project FWF P 24523-G19

1 posted on 03/20/2016 5:08:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

2 posted on 03/20/2016 5:10:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Another Thermopylae battle? This is madness!


3 posted on 03/20/2016 5:10:50 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("A Bill of Rights that means what the majority wants it to meand over an is worthless." - Scalia)
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To: SunkenCiv
I'd find a way to make peace.


4 posted on 03/20/2016 5:12:54 PM PDT by ghosthost
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To: Pollster1
Another Thermopylae battle? This is madness!

I see what you did there.

5 posted on 03/20/2016 5:14:23 PM PDT by Samwell Tarly
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To: SunkenCiv

Patton was undoubtedly there.


6 posted on 03/20/2016 5:14:30 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Buchanan: A note of caution: This establishment is not going quietly.)
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To: ghosthost
yup, at first i thought it said Goths vs GEEKS, now that woulda been a fun fight to watch
7 posted on 03/20/2016 5:20:13 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: ghosthost

There are some things WORTH FIGHTING FOR...unless you live under ‘no-fault divorce’.


8 posted on 03/20/2016 5:28:11 PM PDT by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: BobL

All of America is under no fzult divorce.


9 posted on 03/20/2016 5:30:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Sparta-Athens war of 400 BC had an Athenian naval victory, the aftermath of which saw the arrival of a bad storm that prevented reclaiming from the waters bodies of the killed.

The upshot was that the Athenian Assembly, the only democracy in the world, ended up, despite the pleading of Socrates, executing half a dozen of the generals responsible for the victory, but also of not retrieving the bodies of the fallen.

The Spartans with their experienced commanders then defeated the inexperienced Athenians easily. After a year under siege, Athens surrendered to Sparta and democracy was put to death.

The will of the people is no guarantee of anything.


10 posted on 03/20/2016 5:31:26 PM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: BobL
we've got to put an end to this war. Tear down the walls and embrace the goth peoples. But mainly the chicks


11 posted on 03/20/2016 5:31:48 PM PDT by ghosthost
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To: SunkenCiv

And now the Greeks can’t even defeat an invasion of unarmed Muslims


12 posted on 03/20/2016 5:34:00 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: ghosthost

Hey !

She Owes Me Money !


13 posted on 03/20/2016 5:47:30 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Not back then.


14 posted on 03/20/2016 5:50:22 PM PDT by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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15 posted on 03/20/2016 6:01:33 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ghosthost

LOL!


16 posted on 03/20/2016 8:15:29 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Vote Tom Hoefling 2016 to restore our God given unalienable rights and Liberty's)
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To: ghosthost

A Goth who works with geeks.

17 posted on 03/20/2016 11:27:27 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("A Bill of Rights that means what the majority wants it to meand over an is worthless." - Scalia)
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To: Chode; ghosthost

18 posted on 03/21/2016 12:52:13 AM PDT by shibumi (Vampire Outlaw of the Milky Way)
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To: sparklite2

[[The will of the people is no guarantee of anything.]]

The will of the people guarantees socialism.


19 posted on 03/21/2016 2:29:36 AM PDT by heye2monn
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To: ghosthost
this is the big picture


20 posted on 03/21/2016 4:25:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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