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'Mitochondrial Eve': Mother of All Humans Lived 200,000 Years Ago
ScienceDaily staff ^ | August 17, 2010 | materials provided by Rice U

Posted on 09/04/2010 10:15:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

The most robust statistical examination to date of our species' genetic links to "mitochondrial Eve" -- the maternal ancestor of all living humans -- confirms that she lived about 200,000 years ago. The Rice University study was based on a side-by-side comparison of 10 human genetic models that each aim to determine when Eve lived using a very different set of assumptions about the way humans migrated, expanded and spread across Earth... "Our findings underscore the importance of taking into account the random nature of population processes like growth and extinction," said study co-author Marek Kimmel, professor of statistics at Rice. "Classical, deterministic models, including several that have previously been applied to the dating of mitochondrial Eve, do not fully account for these random processes." The quest to date mitochondrial Eve (mtEve) is an example of the way scientists probe the genetic past to learn more about mutation, selection and other genetic processes that play key roles in disease... For example, the way scientists attempt to date mtEve relies on modern genetic techniques. Genetic profiles of random blood donors are compared, and based upon the likenesses and differences between particular genes, scientists can assign a number that describes the degree to which any two donors are related to one another.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: aadehillnooossssu; adamandeve; ancestors; ancestry; creation; eden; emptydna; familytree; gardenofeden; genealogy; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; mtdna
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To: SunkenCiv

http://home.tiac.net/~cri_a/piltdown/piltdown.html


21 posted on 09/04/2010 11:16:41 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Vaduz

About incest - sort of, but I’m not sure about the blue eyes thing - it’s a geographically common trait that occurs within a wide gamut of races (Europe, Middle East, India, etc.)


22 posted on 09/04/2010 11:17:14 AM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: SunkenCiv

23 posted on 09/04/2010 11:20:03 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Omedalus
Not "died out" ~ rather the mtDNA sequence didn't get passed along. Eventually all the mtDNA sequences but one disappear since they are inherited only from the mother.

Shows the power of mathematics.

Still, all of this mtDNA analysis is under the cloud of discoveries that every now and then some mtDNA from the father gets in there and does stuff!

The Sa'ami ancestry of the Iroquois, Cherokee, Ojibway/Chippewa, Berbers, Fulbe, Yakuts/Sakha and the Sa'ami was demonstrated with such a mtDNA sequence referred to by some as "the X factor". This sequence is dated back about 9,000 years ~ at the end of the Younger Dryas. Not all Sa'ami have this sequence ~ there are others.

24 posted on 09/04/2010 11:23:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Vaduz

Given that we are all cousins to a certain extent and have common ancestors if you go back far enough then yes, we are all products of ‘incest’ depending on how you define the term. To be honest though, once you get to second or third cousin and beyond, calling these kinds of sexual relations ‘incest’ is stretching the term a bit...


25 posted on 09/04/2010 11:35:46 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

You wouldn’t be a lawyer would you?.


26 posted on 09/04/2010 11:41:02 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz

Nope, considered becoming one, but I decided the pay wasn’t for me, so I decided to work in an assistant at a coin shop and just do the lawyer stuff in my spare time as a hobby instead...


27 posted on 09/04/2010 11:50:31 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: redhead

Thanks redhead. The author has a really bad combover.


28 posted on 09/04/2010 11:59:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: SunkenCiv

Unverifiable, non-scientific, estimations, and ramblings.
Anything but the Bible, Alex, for $200.


29 posted on 09/04/2010 11:59:17 AM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: mowowie

Thanks, it’s my pleasure. :’)


30 posted on 09/04/2010 12:01:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: Radix

:’) She’s a real nowhere girl though. :’)


31 posted on 09/04/2010 12:02:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: decimon

I wonder, wonder, who, I wonder who, who wrote the book of mtdna... ;’)


32 posted on 09/04/2010 12:04:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: blam

I doubt it. They used the fragmentary DNA info from a Neandertal as a “reference” for their approach to “calculating” the rate of change, meaning this “study” is bogged down in exactly the same way as previous “studies”.


33 posted on 09/04/2010 12:04:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: muir_redwoods

This purports to show the last common female ancestor, at best.


34 posted on 09/04/2010 12:05:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: mountainlion

That’s 200-fold. Name one study that says that.


35 posted on 09/04/2010 12:07:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: twhitak

Seems reasonable.


36 posted on 09/04/2010 12:08:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Good thinking on your part good luck.


37 posted on 09/04/2010 12:10:33 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: SunkenCiv

The book traces mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosome histories, to find the original donors in our past. It is a very good book, with a lot of interesting ideas. I’ve enjoyed reading it. Not quite finished, but it’s worth a look.


38 posted on 09/04/2010 12:10:56 PM PDT by redhead (Abortion: The number one killer of human beings. Period.)
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To: SunkenCiv
"The author has a really bad combover."

Hang on, while I go look...

YIKES!! that looks worse than Bill O'Reilly or The Donald.

39 posted on 09/04/2010 12:15:01 PM PDT by redhead (Abortion: The number one killer of human beings. Period.)
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To: redhead; James C. Bennett; Vaduz; muawiyah; sinsofsolarempirefan

Thanks! Oldie related topic:

The Human Family Tree: 10 Adams and 18 Eves
NY Times | May 2, 2000 | Nicholas Wade
Posted on 10/10/2004 8:21:08 PM PDT by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1241240/posts


40 posted on 09/04/2010 12:17:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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