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Ted Cruz Positions on “Anchor Babies” and “Birthright Citizenship”…
theconservativetreehouse.com ^ | February 4, 2016 | sundance

Posted on 02/04/2016 7:52:23 PM PST by 867V309

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To: WENDLE
Tell us the one he will absolutely win? Just one.

We'll start this week with New Hampshire. After that South Carolina.

I used to like Cruz until all the Trumpettes convinced me he was evil. I used to like Trump until Trump convinced me he was evil.

I don't think I'm alone.

This nomination is going to be won by a moderate. We all cry that we want a conservative, but then the conservatives are too busy killing each other off to focus on the goal. If the goal is to elect a conservative, both Trump and Cruz are running in the wrong direction.

21 posted on 02/04/2016 8:16:53 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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To: 867V309

Wrong, he was 100% consistent. Nothing in the videos shows otherwise. He was against birthright citizenship and says it will probably take a constitutional amendment to change it.


22 posted on 02/04/2016 8:16:53 PM PST by JediJones (Marco Rubio: When the Establishment Says Jump, He Asks How High?)
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To: 867V309
I feel like we're getting backed into a constitutional corner by Cruz and Rubio here whereby we will have to accept that foreign born children (like Cruz) are natural born citizens and can be President of the United States or that anchor babies (like Rubio) are natural born citizens and can be POTUS.

If you accept that Obama's birth certificate was real, there has never been an openly foreign born POTUS or a POTUS born of two unnaturalized immigrants. but here we are.

It seems that, slowly, over the course of several elections, via precedents like this, the power of the Presidency will descend into the hands of foreigner powers or, at the very least, the opportunity will be created whereby such an event will become increasingly possible, if not probable.

American sovereignty is resented throughout the world. The world wants to take it away from us and they will never stop trying to do so.

This is exactly what article II, section I, clause 5 sought to prevent.

23 posted on 02/04/2016 8:17:20 PM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: P-Marlowe

Cthulhu!

LOL!

Ahhh that was funny :D


24 posted on 02/04/2016 8:18:45 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: 867V309

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No. Blog pimps can go to hell.


25 posted on 02/04/2016 8:19:06 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: P-Marlowe

Yes, it goes to the sign of the times that we live in. However, we can still hope can’t we?


26 posted on 02/04/2016 8:21:19 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: P-Marlowe
"I used to like Cruz until all the Trumpettes convinced me he was evil. I used to like Trump until Trump convinced me he was evil."

Trump convinced me he is evil, so I am with you there. But the only one that you should allow to convince you Cruz is evil is Cruz. Trumpetts, Trumpaholics, Establishment, media - close your ears. As with Trump, only Cruz should be the one to convince you one way or the other.

27 posted on 02/04/2016 8:23:17 PM PST by inpajamas (Texas Akbar!!!!!!!)
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To: P-Marlowe
"I used to like Cruz until all the Trumpettes convinced me he was evil. I used to like Trump until Trump convinced me he was evil."

Trump convinced me he is evil, so I am with you there. But the only one that you should allow to convince you Cruz is evil is Cruz. Trumpetts, Trumpaholics, Establishment, media - close your ears. As with Trump, only Cruz should be the one to convince you one way or the other.

28 posted on 02/04/2016 8:26:20 PM PST by inpajamas (Texas Akbar!!!!!!!)
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To: 867V309

Has Ted ever applied for American citizenship?


29 posted on 02/04/2016 8:26:24 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: logitech
Be more specific. How do you see the two? Birthright citizenship confers automatically US citizenship to anyone born on our soil, i.e., jus solis. It matters not whether the parents of the child are illegal aliens, tourists, foreign students, etc. The only exception being the children of accredited diplomats.

Anchor babies is a term referring to the children of illegal aliens. The parents use the amcit children as a way for them to stay here, hence the term anchor baby.

30 posted on 02/04/2016 8:26:33 PM PST by kabar
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To: inpajamas

ooops


31 posted on 02/04/2016 8:26:42 PM PST by inpajamas (Texas Akbar!!!!!!!)
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To: JediJones
Wrong, he was 100% consistent

He was 100% weasel talker.


32 posted on 02/04/2016 8:26:57 PM PST by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: 867V309

This is like the crap Micheal Moore puts out. Highlight what he wants you to think Cruz said and ignore what Cruz really said. I don’t know how a real Freeper can post this crap without a barf alert, let alone believe that Cruz said what he didn’t say.


33 posted on 02/04/2016 8:28:03 PM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: tumblindice

No need for an American citizen to apply for citizenship.


34 posted on 02/04/2016 8:28:30 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: patlin
There's 350 million people in this country. Among them are Medal of Honor Winners, geniuses, Nobel prize winners, War heroes, Military strategists... and we end up with this motley crew.

Frankly we could have gotten a better and more balanced set of candidates if we had just picked names at random out of the phone book.

If you truly understand Daniel 4:17 it would be totally out of the ordinary if we ever elected another Washington, Lincoln or Reagan. Instead we are left with the "basest of men."

35 posted on 02/04/2016 8:29:20 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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To: lonestar67
What is trumps position on this?

Trump wants to end it period. He believes all it will take is an act of Congress, not a Constitutional amendment.

Cruz has a strong position on this and Texas — the state he represents has enacted powerful restrictions on this here.

Not a state decision. The state can take various actions in terms of issuing birth certificates, but as long as someone can prove they were born here, they are citizens per US code.

36 posted on 02/04/2016 8:31:17 PM PST by kabar
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To: RC one

“This is exactly what article II, section I, clause 5 sought to prevent. “

It sought to prevent those of strong British heritage, the propensity of which did not fight on the side of the Colonists in the Revolutionary War, from being able to assume the most powerful position under the new Constitution that the Founding Fathers worked so hard to develop.


37 posted on 02/04/2016 8:31:48 PM PST by doldrumsforgop
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To: tumblindice

It is my understanding Cruz did not have to go through the nationalization process, he was born a US citizen. There would be paperwork for the record. You do have to apply to have it put it on the record. If you are US citizen born here you have to have it recorded for evidence.


38 posted on 02/04/2016 8:32:36 PM PST by inpajamas (Texas Akbar!!!!!!!)
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To: Elyse
It was argued at the Supreme Court in 1874 & ten years later in 1884, both of which were within 2 decades of the 14th being ratified and BOTH times the SCOTUS rejected ‘birthright’ (a.k.a. feudal) citizenship.

Excerpts from those SCOTUS rulings:

Elk v Wilkins (1884)

The distinction between citizenship by birth and citizenship by naturalization is clearly marked in the provisions of the Constitution, by which

“No person, except a natural born citizen or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the office of President,” and “The Congress shall have power to establish an uniform rule of naturalization.” Constitution, Article II, Section 1; Article I, Section 8. By the Thirteenth Amendment of the Constitution, slavery was prohibited. The main object of the opening sentence of the Fourteenth Amendment was to settle the question, upon which there had been a difference of opinion throughout the country and in this Court, as to the citizenship of free negroes ( 60 U. S. 73; Strauder v. West Virginia,@ 100 U. S. 303, 100 U. S. 306.) ...

This section contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two sources only: birth and naturalization. The persons declared to be citizens are “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”; The evident meaning of these last words is not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance. And the words relate to the time of birth in the one case, as they do to the time of naturalization in the other. Persons not thus subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of birth cannot become so afterwards except by being naturalized. ...

“[t]he phrase, ‘subject to its jurisdiction’ was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States.”…Justice Steven Field, joined by Chief Justice Chase and Justices Swayne and Brad­ley in dissent from the principal holding of the case, likewise acknowledged that the clause was designed to remove any doubts about the constitu­tionality of the 1866 Civil Rights Act, which pro­vided that all persons born in the United States were as a result citizens both of the United States and of the state in which they resided, provided they were not at the time subjects of any foreign power. ...

Indians born within the territorial limits of the United States, members of and owing immediate allegiance to one of the Indiana tribes (an alien though dependent power), although in a geographical sense born in the United States, are no more “born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” within the meaning of the first section of the Fourteenth Amendment, than the children of subjects of any foreign government born within the domain of that government, or the children born within the United States of ambassadors or other public ministers of foreign nations.

Minor v Happersett (1874).

Additions might always be made to the citizenship of the United States in two ways: first, by birth, and second, by naturalization…and that Congress shall have power “to establish a uniform rule of naturalization.” ...

At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners…It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens. The words “all children” are certainly as comprehensive, when used in this connection, as “all persons,”

39 posted on 02/04/2016 8:34:28 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: kabar

“Birthright citizenship confers automatically US citizenship to anyone born on our soil, “

That is also conferred if the parents are American citizens, regardless of where they are in the world when the child is born/


40 posted on 02/04/2016 8:35:47 PM PST by doldrumsforgop
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