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The Birth of Jesus and the Day of Trumpets... Jesus Born on September 11th
Associates for Scriptural Knowledge ^ | 2017 | A.S.K

Posted on 09/10/2018 10:03:09 PM PDT by Sontagged

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To: amorphous

Thanks, the Spirit must have been at work when I wrote it.


41 posted on 09/11/2018 5:43:06 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: amorphous; UriÂ’el-2012

Yes thank you for your posts back! Merry Christmas!


42 posted on 09/11/2018 5:44:36 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: chuckles

Revelation 12:1 sign is not a Tabernacles sign.
It is a New Moon sign.

First day of a month.
It will happen again in the next new moon.. the woman will be clothed with the sun and the moon will be under her feet.

I first saw it in September 2014.
A sign of a new moon..

The moon would be on the other side of the world if it was Tabernacles.
Interestingly,that sign in Revelation 12 can be shown at the start of the Father’s 7th or 8th months today.
About 2,000 years ago, that sign would have been experienced in the Father’s 6th or 7th months, depending on the year.

I actually feel His Word hints the birth was on the first day of the Father’s 6th month- 40 days from Day of Atonement.

Which is why the prophetess was fasting and praying ‘ night and day’ when He was presented in the temple. ( That is done on the Day of Atonement)

The baptism is also hinted to be on the same day, 30 years later. When He began His ministry He was 30 years and 40 days old.
He was in the wilderness for 40 days after being baptized on His 30th birthday.
That is why Israel was called to fast and afflict themselves on the 9th in evening to 10th in evening the 7th month.
Israel was to fast the last day while their Messiah fasted all those 40 days.

The Messiah of Israel fasted for those same 40 days between His birth and baptism date and the Day of Atonement, a day He began His ministry.

And then 3 1/2 years later, ended His Work as the Lamb on Passover.

All of those dates are His.
Wait till people understand that. Lots of what we have been taught is in error.
But the Word really did become flesh.
Christianity may have to understand that first,so they can teach Islam and Judaism..

The moon was sighted last night, a sign that today is the New Moon Day/Feast of Trumpets..
And yet, the calendar mistakenly says yesterday was the day..

The calendar is wrong and because of it, so is Yom Kippur. Missed by a day.
Missed because many who strive to worship the Father don’t have the Son.
If they had the Son,they would have the Father.

And everything they were taught to do would point to the Son..

He still Tabernacled with His people. As a 45 day old babe, after being presented in the temple on Yom Kippur ,as a 40 day old babe.

For His Glory!


43 posted on 09/11/2018 7:00:55 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Sontagged

There is a fascination within Freemasonry, not so much of islam, but within arab imagery. I’ve seen some old programs from events that are more akin to Laurel and Hardy’s “Sons Of The Desert”.


44 posted on 09/11/2018 8:01:13 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Ya, I was just telling someone last night about the Arab/Freemason/Nazi axis... where there was some weird killing of Jews during the war at... wait for it... Benghazi. 1942, I believe.


45 posted on 09/11/2018 8:57:46 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: Rashputin
Christmas is NOT Christian. It's pagan. So is Easter. Jesus was born on Tabernacles and died on Passover, buried of Unleavened Bread, and rose on First Fruits. God does nothing on pagan days. He gave us His Feasts in Leviticus 23. Jesus observed them all.

Satan has confused the calendar so you would not observe the correct days. The new calendar was given to us by Rome. The days were named after pagan gods. The months were named after pagan gods. Even the Sabbath was changed to Sunday instead of the 7th Day. Sunday was the day Rome worshiped their sun god. God told us to keep the Sabbath holy in the 10 Commandments. Is it ok to murder now? Oh yeah, abortion. Is it ok to worship idols now? Oh yeah, statues of Mary and other men. The same people that changed the calendar changed the Sabbath.

46 posted on 09/12/2018 12:02:49 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: vpintheak
From what I have learned in the past, BCE is what atheist use instead of BC. To them, BCE means Before Common Era.

Not just atheists. Devout Jews also use it, for obvious reasons.

The Jews have their own calendar which is dated from the creation of Adam and Eve on the Sixth Day. That is obviously the best chronology.

47 posted on 09/12/2018 6:50:39 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Conservatism" without G-d is just another form of Communism.)
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To: chuckles
I understand.

You're lost among those who preach that salvation is only through recognizing Christ as our Savior unless salvation is only through denying Christ as our Savior.

I realize the pagans and others who deny the New Testament is the Word of God don't like anyone celebrating the birth of Christ but hey, whether it's historically correct is a moot point for you, the pagans, the Satan worshipers, the Jews, and everyone else who denies Christ. The real issue is that such folks hate the very idea of any holiday celebrating the birth of Christ.

Which, of course, is why the argument over the proper day to celebrate Easter starts every year the same way the "argument" over when the celebrate starts every year. Those who deny Christ hate anything that puts Him front and center even if it's a minority who actually celebrate His birth and His crucifixion rather than just taking a day off to party or.

Christmas is the day we celebrate the birth of Christ.

If you don't believe Christ is our only way to Salvation, don't celebrate His birth or His death. You go blow a ram or whatever you do on some special day and we'll just continue to remember His birth and thank Him for coming to save us from sin and damnation.

48 posted on 09/12/2018 7:07:00 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Alright. Thanks


49 posted on 09/12/2018 11:36:18 AM PDT by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: Rashputin
....Christmas is the day we celebrate the birth of Christ."....

Yeah but, He wasn't born on Dec 25th. Apparently you haven't read your Bible before reacting. That was the biggest collection of confusion I think I've read in a while.

50 posted on 09/12/2018 11:45:50 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

ROTFLMAO


51 posted on 09/12/2018 1:13:19 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Sontagged
The Hebrew calendar is a lunar calendar...

25 Kislev 3756 - Chanukah / Conception of Yeshua

15 Tishri 3757 - Sukkot / Birth of Yeshua
September 14, -4

15 Nisan 3790 - (30 C.E.) Pesach / Crucifixion of Yeshua

Go to the website Your Sky and generate the view from Jerusalem for Passover 30 C.E. The full moon passes right through Virgo (Betulah in Hebrew) literally a birth of the new covenant.

Calendar converter
http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/calendar/

Your Sky
http://www.fourmilab.ch/yoursky/

52 posted on 09/13/2018 4:42:38 PM PDT by Tzaphon (EL CHIIM)
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To: Sontagged
Also, since the weather in Israel is pretty much the same for places on the same latitude around the Earth, there would be no way Joseph and Mary would have been comfortable traveling in the depths of winter to Bethlehem. Too cold. But in late Summer... you betcha.

Throughout the month of December daytime temperatures will generally reach highs of around 14°C that's about 57°F. At night the average minimum temperature drops down to around 6°C, that's 42°F.

Given that there is no definitive evidence in the New Testament to set a date for Jesus' birth, why bother to try to do so now, after twenty centuries?
53 posted on 09/13/2018 8:21:37 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: chuckles

IDK if you are an Adventist, but I agree with what you are saying about Satan changing the calendar.

With the Paul-ine exception that we are free to celebrate Sabbath under the New Covenant in stark contrast to how the Jews had to honor Sabbath under the OT Law.

In case you are an Adventist, I also take umbrage at elevating Ellen White’s words to the level of The Word, if you know what I mean.


54 posted on 09/13/2018 8:21:43 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: chuckles
Yeah but, He wasn't born on Dec 25th.

How can you prove that?
55 posted on 09/13/2018 8:22:54 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
Given that there is no definitive evidence in the New Testament to set a date for Jesus' birth, why bother to try to do so now, after twenty centuries?

I guess to give Glory to God for the infinitesimal way He confirms His Word and wants us to rejoice in the miracles upon miracles surrounding the birth of His Son?

Remember, God is not a trickster nor a tormentor, He is a straight-shooter who makes His will and His ways and His greatness plain... so even "the little children" can rejoice and appreciate.

56 posted on 09/13/2018 8:26:35 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: af_vet_1981
It's too involved to teach on this blog, but it involves going to Luke 1:5 with Zacharias in the Temple in the division of Abijah. Going to 1Chron 24:10 shows that is the 8th course. Then we have to know that all priests were in the Temple 3 times a year. Then you have to work out a calendar with the courses listed. A Jewish website can usually give you this info.

When Zacharias came home mute from his Temple service, Elizabeth got pregnant. John was conceived 6 months before Jesus was conceived. So John was born 3 months after Jesus was conceived. Jesus would be born about 6 months after John.

Back to counting the courses on the Jewish calendar puts John born at or around Passover and Jesus born around Tabernacles, assuming it was a 9 mo. pregnancy. The Fall Festivals are kinda stacked up as the Spring Feasts are, but one thing for sure, it wasn't in Dec. The shepherds were watching their flocks. Flocks aren't in the fields in Dec. To cold and the grass is dead, probably some snow.

Now we can start to look at Spiritual language used for the birth.

Luk 2:10 Then the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people.

First "great Joy" is a term used in Tabernacles celebrations. In fact God tells His people that they MUST express "Great Joy" every Tabernacles.

Deu 16:14 And you shall rejoice in your feast, you and your son and your daughter, your male servant and your female servant and the Levite, the stranger and the fatherless and the widow, who are within your gates.

Deu 16:15 Seven days you shall keep a sacred feast to the Lord your God in the place which the Lord chooses, because the Lord your God will bless you in all your produce and in all the work of your hands, so that you surely rejoice. The idea was to celebrate the Lord setting them free of bondage and He came to live with them in the wilderness in booths. Another clue here is the term "All nations". All the other Feast Days were for Jews only. Tabernacles was for the whole world.

In John 1:14, John says the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. The word "Dwelt" there is Tabernacled.( G4637 in Strong's) One main theme for the whole Bible is God living with His people.

Another clue is Jesus was wrapped in swaddling cloth. A Big theme in Tabernacles is the "Light of The World". The Jews put poles up in the courtyard of the Temple with lamps on top of them. They were very tall, maybe 70 feet or so. They had bowels on top full of olive oil and the wicks were swaddling cloth. If a Jew asked his son what those flaming poles were, their response would be "That's the Light of the World".

Jesus came into the Temple on a Tabernacles Feast and declared John 8:12.

Joh 8:12 Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life."

Joh 9:5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world."

Jesus was literally screaming to the people in the Temple that He was the point of what they were celebrating. If Jesus was the Passover Lamb and died on Passover, then Scriptures were declaring that God had come to earth to tabernacle with them.

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

Here God is saying that while He is on earth in the Last days, the world will be required to celebrate Tabernacles. Tabernacles is saying that God has come to live with His people, ergo born on that day.

I gave a 10 part, 14 hr lesson on the Feast days for my Sunday School and my home study group. The Leviticus 23 Feast days are a MUST, IMHO, for every Christian to study to understand what Scripture is telling us. Jesus said the Scriptures were written of Him. Christians are almost clueless about Jewish things. Jesus was born, lived, and died, as a Jew. this is what Paul was upset about with the Corinthians living on milk and never getting the meat. Everything in Jerusalem was a copy of what was in Heaven. So God's Kingdom resembles the Jews. They were given the oracles of God.

We have been led astray by the church of Babylon.

I could go into where Christmas and Easter came from, but most of us here already know the truth, we just can't give up our traditions. I have written many explanations here about what happened, but most don't bother even looking it up.

What people believe is a personal thing. I can't change anyone's mind. All I know is what Scriptures tell me. In Rev 18:4, God Himself tells them to come OUT of her before they are judged. The reason the church is dwindling today is because most pastors and priests can't even answer the simplest questions credibly. They may be nice people that love the Lord, but they aren't adequately trained in Scripture. For me, it's not so much that we celebrate Jesus' birthday on the wrong day, but that the day is a pagan day celebrating the birth of the Antichrist. Tammuz is the son of Nimrod that his wife said was the risen body of Nimrod. Semiramis was the "Mother of god" long before Mary and Jesus. These pagan days were incorporated into the Church Jesus started by Rome. It's not new. Go to Ezekiel 8 and read of the abomination in the Temple about Tammuz and the "Sunrise Service" with their backs turned to the Temple. IMO, God thinks its bad to venerate the wrong days and say it's for the right reasons. Your mileage may vary. Easter and Passover are almost never the same day on the Calendar. I would say it is never, but I don't know for sure since the Jewish calendar moves compared to ours, but so does Easter. Either way, Easter is named after Ishtar, Isis, or Astarte, depending on what pagan group you come from. The Leviticus 23 feast days are Rehearsals for God's days. He even says these are my days. If Passover and First Fruits are on different days than Easter, what is Easter celebrating? Every church should have a source to a Messianic Jew. Even a non Messianic Jew would be better than many Pastors teaching today. Love Israel.org, Torahclass.com, Perry Stone, Discovering the Jewish Jesus, and Gateway church in Dallas has Messianic messages there. If people rely totally on the NT and never go to the OT, there is a problem. If you hear antisemitism from the pulpit, run, don't walk, out of there. When you hear the NT changed everything so we don't need the OT, ask them what changed? Jesus came to fulfill the Tenach, not to do away with it.

What's happening today is disbelief in Scripture, taking what they want and rejecting the rest, abortion, sodomy, antisemitism, all have entered the church. This is no different than carving out a stick and falling down before it to worship a god that is not the God of the Bible. EVERYBODY will say, "That's not me!", then do exactly opposite of what Scripture says. If you don't know that the "Day no one knows" is Trumpets, how will you be "watching" for that day? The "Last Trump" only can be blown on the Feast of Trumpets, but we have people looking for the Rapture in June, May. December, ect. They don't understand the Theif in the Night is. They don't know if its pre, mid, or post Trib and can't figure out what the Bible says about it. All because they have no Jewish background or instruction.

The Jews observed Tabernacles for 3000 years before Jesus was born, but the themes of Tabernacles were fulfilled at least 9 ways by Jesus without having to figure out the courses of Abijah.

57 posted on 09/14/2018 11:12:52 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

Wow, thank you and Bookmarking because I can’t absorb it all now.

One thing, would John The Baptist have been born on Passover because of how Jews always set a place for Elijah who is to come at the Passover table?

Isn’t John the Baptist this Elijah, according to the Lord?


58 posted on 09/14/2018 10:08:54 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: chuckles
It's too involved to teach on this blog,

...

We have been led astray by the church of Babylon.

Here are two examples from scripture of truth not too involved to teach:

And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter. And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch.

...

By Silvanus, a faithful brother unto you, as I suppose, I have written briefly, exhorting, and testifying that this is the true grace of God wherein ye stand. The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son. Greet ye one another with a kiss of charity. Peace be with you all that are in Christ Jesus. Amen.


John, Catholic chapter ten, Protestant verses twenty two to twenty three,
First Peter, Catholic chapter five, Protestant verses twelve to fourteen,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

59 posted on 09/15/2018 5:42:44 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Yes, John 1:14

Excellent post.


60 posted on 09/15/2018 7:03:21 AM PDT by SheepWhisperer (not on the book of faces, but am found written in the book of life)
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