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Don’t Mess with the Book of Revelation
Rapture Ready ^ | 9/10/22 | Jonathan Brentner

Posted on 09/11/2022 5:05:02 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

Revelation begins with these words: “The revelation of Jesus Christ.” The book is all about Jesus’ magnificence and power. From beginning to end, Revelation glorifies our Lord Jesus Christ.

Revelation is more relevant than ever before as we watch a great many of its prophecies come into sharper focus. Conditions are all in place for the four “horsemen of the apocalypse” to begin their trek through the world. Never before in history has the technology existed for one man to control the buying and selling worldwide.

Unfortunately, the number of those disputing the message of the book of Revelation continues to rapidly grow, even in churches that claim to believe in the inerrancy and inspiration of Scripture. Although the signs of the nearing fulfillment of Revelation 6:1-8 multiply by the day, many pastors deny its relevance for the church today.

Revelation comes with both a promised blessing for those who read it (1:3) and a severe warning for those who revise the meaning of its words (22:8-19).

The Blessing: Jesus’ Exaltation Is Also Our Victory

The Blessing for those who read the last book of the Bible comes from its exaltation of Jesus. It magnifies Christ from beginning to end.

Jesus as the Head of His Church Chapters 1-3 of Revelation display Jesus as head over His church. These chapters show the Lord in charge of His people, just as Paul described in Ephesians 1:22-23.

Revelation 3:10-11a contains a promise of the Rapture through which Jesus will take us out of the world before the wrath of the day of the Lord descends upon “those that dwell on the earth.”

Chapters 4 and 5 exalt the Lamb as the only One worthy to open the seals binding the title deed to this world. The ensuing seal judgments begin the process of the coming King setting up His kingdom on earth.

The Lord Judges the Earth in Preparation for His Kingdom Chapter 6-18 proclaims the Lord’s supreme power and sovereignty over the kings of the earth, nature, and all the forces that now rebel against Him. He will prove the righteousness of His Name as He destroys the kingdom of the antichrist along with its lawlessness, deception, and exceedingly great wickedness and lawlessness. Heaven will roar with praise for the Lord Jesus as He celebrates His marriage to the church and prepares to return with us to the earth.

The day of the Lord judgments in Revelation will tear the kingdom of this world away from Satan and usher in the one-thousand-year reign of Jesus.

Jesus Will Reign for a Thousand Years and Then Forever Jesus’ ultimate display of glory to the earth happens at His Second Coming. He will then destroy the armies of the world gathered against Jerusalem, lock up Satan, and establish His rule upon the earth (19:11-20:6). After putting down a final rebellion, He will judge the world and forever eliminate death and sin (20:7-15).

Revelation 21-22 describes the glorious eternal state of the new earth and the New Jerusalem. Jesus’ last words to us, His church, are these, “Surely I am coming quickly!”

The exaltation of Jesus finds its fullest expression in all of the events recorded in the book of Revelation. Someday we will fill heaven with praise for our Redeemer (Revelation 19:1-5). We will return with Him and watch as He wrests control of the world away from Satan, sets up His kingdom, and takes His rightful place on the throne of David. Jesus will forever destroy sin and death and usher in a glorious eternity.

The Warning: Don’t Mess with the Message!

You’ve likely heard the phrase, “Don’t mess with Texas!” The consequences of that are nothing compared to messing with the message of the book of Revelation.

No other book in the Bible contains such a warning in its last chapter:

“I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book” (Revelation 22:18-19).

I believe that these words of caution occur because Revelation…

exalts the Person of Jesus. describes the Lord’s final victory over sin and death. Provides immeasurable comfort to believers with its description of how God will deal with this wicked world and bring in a joyous eternal state, including a New Jerusalem. I believe that those who discredit the message of Revelation for us today tread on dangerous ground. Yet so many scoff at its message to their own peril.

Teachers, pastors, and scholars mess with the message of Revelation in the following ways:

Allegory Many regard the book of Revelation as allegory, or just symbolism, rather than an eyewitness account of what John saw and heard. This is the most popular way that the scoffers take away from its message of victory and hope.

Allegory began long ago as a way to combine pagan Greek philosophy with Christianity, especially that of the pagan philosopher Plato who believed that only the spiritual realm was good. He believed that the material world was inherently evil.

Augustine, the one who firmly established allegory as the way to approach biblical prophecy, said the idea of a millennium “would not be objectionable” if somehow “the nature of the millennial kingdom was a ‘spiritual one’ rather than a physical one.” [i] Augustine thus modified his beliefs regarding Jesus’ future thousand-year reign on the earth in order to make them comply with the teachings of Plato.

His hatred of the Jewish people also factored into his theology of dismissing the biblical promises regarding the future restoration of Israel.

There are many reasons to reject the allegorical approach to the book of Revelation:

Revelation repeatedly identifies itself as a book of prophecy (1:3; 22:7, 10, 18-19). The allegorical approach elevates the human wisdom of the interpreter above the inspired words of the text. Words matter very little to those who employ. John’s language negates the allegorical approach to the book of Revelation. The apostle uses the word “saw” forty-four times by itself and twelve times with the word “looked.” He uses “heard” thirty times; he was not telling us a story but rather writing down words as he listened to the angels and the Lord speak. Those who use symbolism to interpret the book of Revelation do not agree among themselves about what is allegorical and literal. Those who use allegory claim to have a special “lens” by which they know the meaning of a passage that, more often than not, has nothing at all to do with the actual words of the text. Allegory turns Christ’s triumphal victory over Satan’s world system into something that fails to glorify Him or comfort us in any way. It’s Apocalyptic One pastor told me that the book of Revelation was “apocalyptic,” thereby suggesting that this gave him license to interpret passages other than the way that the Lord inspired them. It came as no surprise to me that he had a unique view of biblical prophecy and the future of Israel, one I had never heard of before despite all my years of study on this matter. It was most certainly not biblical.

The word “apocalyptic” is translated “revelation” in verse one of Revelation. Contrary to how we regard the English equivalent of the word, in the Greek it signifies an unveiling or revealing. In other words, this term introduces the final book of the Bible as the unveiling of Jesus and His glory.

It’s Past History The preterists tell us that John wrote the book in AD 65 and that the Lord fulfilled all or most of the words of the book of Revelation in AD 70.

There are many problems with this errant approach:

Church history assigns the time of the writing of Revelation to about AD 95.

Irenaeus, who grew up in the church at Smyrna in the second century AD, tells us that John wrote the book of Revelation at this time. If anyone would know when the book first arrived at the church in Smyrna, it would be someone who grew up in that church and received his training in the faith from Polycarp, whom the apostle John discipled.

It’s readily apparent that the prophetic events described in Revelation have not yet happened. John describes Jesus’ Second Coming as a time when “every eye will see him” (1:7). This was most certainly not a first century AD event.

The problems Jesus addressed in the church at Ephesus (2:1-7) differ significantly from what Paul wrote about in 2 Timothy as he addressed his prodigy who served as the pastor of this church. The apostle wrote his final book in about AD 67-68.

Many believe that the church at Smyrna did not exist until after the martyrdom of the apostle Paul in about AD 68.

An earthquake caused considerable damage to the city of Laodicea in about AD 65. They would not have regarded themselves as “rich” at this time.

Again, Revelation repeatedly identifies itself as a book of prophecy (1:3; 22:7, 10, 18-19).

Even if John wrote Revelation in AD 65, it’s doubtful all seven churches would have received the book, read it aloud in all the house gatherings, and possibly made a copy of it by AD 70. For sure, no other church at the time would have seen its prophecies concerning the Lord’s return.

The preterist approach makes the book of Revelation all about the church with prophecies that would have happened long before the majority of believers would have seen the book or known about it. It exalts the church above its Head.

It’s a Secret Code for First Century Believers

Another popular approach states that John wrote the entire book of Revelation in code for the suffering saints who lived during the first century AD.

All the arguments against the errant use of symbolism apply here. John recorded future events as he saw them and wrote down the words spoken to him by the Lord and by angels.

And since Revelation was written in AD 95, the majority of believers living at the time would not have even seen the book until well into the second century AD.

Don’t Mess with Revelation

I’m convinced that the book of Revelation glorifies Jesus from beginning to end and that those who discredit its words and message do so at their own peril.

There are verses in the book of Revelation that I do not fully understand. Other passages have become clearer as the day approaches, and we see advances in technology and witness current events that point to the future.

But one thing I know for sure: Revelation fills me with hope for what is to come.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: apocalypse; endtimes; madeupfantasymyth; revelation; scripture; study
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1 posted on 09/11/2022 5:05:02 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

My book “The End Times” will be out soon.

My goal is to clear up and understand what is coming soon, to promote the Gospel of the Grace of Christ, to comfort those who know Jesus, and warn the rest to please board the Ark of Heaven, Jesus Christ who will whisk away to Heaven those who belong to him before it all comes crashing down on earth.


2 posted on 09/11/2022 5:13:36 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Because Revelation contains a lot of symbolism doesn’t mean it’s not true, or that there are no incorrect ways to interpret it. Jesus often spoke in parables, and would translate their true meaning to his disciples. The symbolic nature is there to underscore the true spiritual meaning of events rather than leave them open to reinterpretation depending on how you wanted to look at them.


3 posted on 09/11/2022 5:49:55 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Bkmk


4 posted on 09/11/2022 6:01:00 PM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

trying to interpret revelation is a fools errand


5 posted on 09/11/2022 6:02:37 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Irenaeus, who grew up in the church at Smyrna in the second century AD, tells us that John wrote the book of Revelation at this time.

The Greek is ambiguous. It could mean that Revelation was written in the AD 90s, or it could mean that John (the John who wrote Revelation) was alive in the AD 90s.

6 posted on 09/11/2022 6:10:30 PM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Rapture friend told me since the church is not mentioned after chapter 3 in Revelation, it means the church was taken out in the Rapture. I told her that Revelation wasn’t written in chapter and verse. That didn’t come about until the 16th. century when it was divided into chapter and verse.


7 posted on 09/11/2022 6:19:26 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( I make airplanes fly, what's your super power?)
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To: Jim W N

I’m on the fence, so this is not an antagonistic question: for pre-trib folks, what to say to the persecuted in the ME, China, Africa, etc? They’ve been told they will be raptured before the tribulation, yet they suffer tribulation. This is weekly convo for my mother and me. Again, not looking for fight.


8 posted on 09/11/2022 6:40:03 PM PDT by small farm girl (....)
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To: small farm girl

My belief; there is no rapture. There is only the second coming of Jesus. The rapture is a false teaching.


9 posted on 09/11/2022 7:11:49 PM PDT by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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To: SkyDancer

Ok after John hears the words “Come up here”. The church is not mentioned again.


10 posted on 09/11/2022 7:15:16 PM PDT by Rodm
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To: small farm girl

There’s a difference between experiencing tribulation here on earth, which we all experience and Jesus said we would have, and the time of the Tribulation that is the judgment of God on an unbelieving world.

One is a common noun, just troubles in general.

The Tribulation, the seven year one, is a specific time period for a specific purpose.

I can’t figure why some people insist that we’re all going to go through the Tribulation. They disbelieve that God will remove His church before he judges the world. It’s like they are gruesomely delighted with the thought of us experiencing it.


11 posted on 09/11/2022 7:19:07 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein
My belief; there is no rapture. There is only the second coming of Jesus. The rapture is a false teaching.

Why? What Scriptural support do you have for your position?

12 posted on 09/11/2022 7:20:54 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: small farm girl
for pre-trib folks, what to say to the persecuted in the ME, China, Africa, etc?

Fair question.

Jesus told us, "In the world you will have tribulation but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world" (John 16:33). Paul said of his life and our lives, "We will suffer tribulation" (1 Thessalonians 3:4) and "[W]e glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation works patience" (Romans 5:3). There are many other scriptures also about the glories we have inherited because of Christ in us and us in Christ, coupled with tribulations, mainly because the world, the flesh, and the devil is where we live until we go to Heaven to be with Jesus.

The 70th Week of Daniel (Daniel 9:24-27) AKA the 7-yeqar tribulation is, as Forrest Gump would say, "Is whole other country." The seven year "tribulation" and "great tribulation" is God's wrath poured out upon an unrepentant world. God's children are not appointed to God's wrath (1 Thessalonians 5:9). We are God's children through Christ who he loves us. The persecutions of Christians around the world now are because Satan hates God and hates God's people. It's Satan's wrath, not God's wrath. God will never be angry with us because Jesus bore all of God's wrath on his body 2000 years ago. God loves his own and has a special place for those who endure tribulation and suffering.

God's people need to understand that the "Rapture" or the "Great Catching Up" of the saints into Heaven (1 Thessalonians 4:17) will actually launch Daniel's 70th Week AKA the seven-year tribulation on earth which will be more horrific than anyone can imagine (don't be afraid, you'll be in heaven with Jesus). Before the first 3 1/2 years are over, half the world will have been killed. By the end of the seven years the whole world will have been slaughtered except for a tiny remnant of Jews hiding in the mountains of Jordan.

Anyone who talks about "mid-trib" or "post trib" hasn't paid attention to or doesn't understand the details of what unimaginably horrific events happen during that seven years and haven't read or understood scriptures that says those seven years are the Wrath of the Lamb and that we, his children, are not appointed to God's wrath but to his love and salvation (1 Thessalonians 5:9).

Hope that helps. Read the refenced scriptures carefully and prayerfully and ask God for wisdom and understanding.

God bless.

13 posted on 09/11/2022 7:25:50 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: small farm girl

“They’ve been told they will be raptured before the tribulation, yet they suffer tribulation.”

Indeed. Many scriptures support the necessity for believers to go through trials, tribulations, persecutions, and adversities. The debate has been made over whether Church-age believers will go through the time period known as the Great Tribulation. I’m of the opinion that, yes, they (or we, if we survive until the rapture) will go through the Great Tribulation. Other Bible-believing Christians hold differing views.

Acts 14:22 (NKJV)
[They were] strengthening the souls of the disciples, exhorting them to continue in the faith, and saying, “We must through many tribulations enter the kingdom of God.”

I was persuaded many years ago to believe in what is commonly called the pre-wrath rapture.

At the heart of this view is the distinction between the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord.

There are many reasons I find this more persuasive than other views of the timing of the rapture. One example is that the sign of the sun and moon being darkened (apparently simultaneously) occurs AFTER the Great Tribulation but BEFORE the Day of the Lord.

Matthew 24:29 (NKJV)
Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

Acts 2:20 (NKJV)
The sun shall be turned into darkness,
And the moon into blood,
Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.


14 posted on 09/11/2022 7:27:36 PM PDT by unlearner ( Si vis pacem, para bellum. Let him who desires peace prepare for war.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Martin Luther’s Preface to the Revelation of St. John (1522)​

About this Book of the Revelation of John, I leave everyone free to hold his own opinions. I would not have anyone bound to my opinion or judgment. I say what I feel. I miss more than one thing in this book, and it makes me consider it to be neither apostolic nor prophetic.

First and foremost, the apostles do not deal with visions, but prophesy in clear and plain words, as do Peter and Paul, and Christ in the gospel. For it befits the apostolic office to speak clearly of Christ and his deeds, without images and visions. Moreover there is no prophet in the Old Testament, to say nothing of the New, who deals so exclusively with visions and images. For myself, I think it approximates the Fourth Book of Esdras; I can in no way detect that the Holy Spirit produced it.

Moreover he seems to me to be going much too far when he commends his own book so highly [Revelation 22]—indeed, more than any of the other sacred books do, though they are much more important—and threatens that if anyone takes away anything from it, God will take away from him, etc. Again, they are supposed to be blessed who keep what is written in this book; and yet no one knows what that is, to say nothing of keeping it. This is just the same as if we did not have the book at all. And there are many far better books available for us to keep.

Many of the fathers also rejected this book a long time ago; although St. Jerome, to be sure, refers to it in exalted terms and says that it is above all praise and that there are as many mysteries in it as words. Still, Jerome cannot prove this at all, and his praise at numerous places is too generous.

Finally, let everyone think of it as his own spirit leads him. My spirit cannot accommodate itself to this book. For me this is reason enough not to think highly of it: Christ is neither taught nor known in it. But to teach Christ, this is the thing which an apostle is bound above all else to do; as Christ says in Acts 1[:8], “You shall be my witnesses.” Therefore I stick to the books which present Christ to me clearly and purely.


15 posted on 09/11/2022 7:50:26 PM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

Luther had no right to reject any of the New Testament books.


16 posted on 09/11/2022 7:54:17 PM PDT by Trump_Triumphant
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To: small farm girl

Christian persecution has been here since the church began. So the rapture is not about avoiding persecution but it is Christ taking His bride (the believers) home before the Lamb’s wrath is released on God hating world in the tribulation. During this time God uses the two witness and the 144 thousand sealed Jewish believers to proclaim gospel and the coming Kingdom of Christ. There will be intense persecution as Satan, the antichrist and false prophet work to destroy all Jews and all believers in Jesus.


17 posted on 09/11/2022 8:05:39 PM PDT by Rodm
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To: metmom; FroedrickVonFreepenstein

And please, in your response to metmom, don’t even try to say it was Darby and Margaret Macdonald.


18 posted on 09/11/2022 9:06:14 PM PDT by GMThrust
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To: All

We can only know for sure after the fact but we could be in the tribulation already. So many things about the present situation resemble end time prophecy but there are many who say “these are just foreshadowing for worse things that will happen later.” Will people keep saying this as the world descends further into sin, chaos and despair? At what point do you reach the “real” end time? This is perhaps why nobody knows the date, not from a lack of signs, but this continual ebb and flow — you could have certainly made a case for the approach of the end time from 1939 to 1945 yet as far as we know, Jesus did not return after that and certainly there was no event like “every eye shall see him,” he could only have returned in secret.

Personally I think it quite possible that all signs are being verified which perhaps makes this a rather soft tribulation but evidently one without a rapture since here we all are.


19 posted on 09/11/2022 10:35:32 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Cultural elder -- problem is, that only counts for every other culture)
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To: small farm girl

I fall into the camp that the Book of Revelation is a book that covers the past, present and future. Both when it was written, and for today (and tomorrow).

Believers were being persecuted back when the scripture was written - and it was a message of hope for them. God wins!

It is also a message of hope for the persecuted Church today, and tomorrow. Yes it looks bad - but God wins. He already HAS won.

At the moment, I don’t believe in the rapture, but that isn’t a huge thing to me. Maybe Christians will, but there are a lot of situations where God has left His believers in bad situations. Imprisonment in Egypt for generations, wandering in the desert for 40 years, exile to Babylon, persecution by the Romans, etc. I believe that today we are supposed to help point folks to Christ, and will be there to the very end doing it as well. I know of some churches in Africa that despite the persecution are shining a light on Jesus and His Grace. Hutus and Tuttsi’s that worship God together, even though their parents and families had been murdered by those same people!


20 posted on 09/11/2022 10:56:22 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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