Bill would keep U.S. out of world court

WND ^ | 4/12/02 | Jon Dougherty

[poet]

It really is not difficult to understand. They have a double standard and are duplicitous. They use dialectic reasoning, which is the say, peace means that you agree with them and war means that you are in disagreement with their position.

[patriciaruth]

Bump.

[MissAmericanPie]

I hope your right Tonkin, all U.N. treaties supercede US laws, even the Supreme Court of the USofA is studying U.N. laws so they will know how to rule.

When our Senate informed the U.N. that even though Clinton signed the treaty, it still was not effective until and unless the Senate ratified it. The U.N. informed the Senate "Your president signed it, your in".

Very bold talk from a one armed man, but the U.N. foresees power for itself that will over ride every nation on earth, that is it's declared goal. When interviewed about their co-control over US government land, the statement was made, "Americans have forfeited their right to control their own resources, due to their urban sprawl and SUV's, someone had to take over."

They are feeling very brazen, and now want their own global tax so they can be self supporting and tell the US to stuff it and that we have lost our veto power, once they have that ability to be self perpetuating there will be no stopping this entity, because the next thing on their wish list is their own global military outfitted with the best weapons that the USofA can supply, and they will attain it.

The U.N. meeting in Mexico was to accomplish this global tax system and there is no word, not one that I have heard about that says if they were successful or what Bush's position was on it, because he repeatedly refused to say before he left for the meeting, even though he had 4,000 letter's before him from concerned political action committees who had contacted the press to try to force an answer from him.

[MistyCA]

Thanks for pinging me to this Tonk. Thanks also for your comments.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"all U.N. treaties supercede US laws"

I'm a bit confused on this part of your post.
The US Constitution was written long before the UN ever existed.
Could you please clarify this point?
Thanks

[MissAmericanPie]

Sure, our Fore Father's warned us about becoming involved in entangling treaties with other nations and entities, this is the easiest way to lose our freedom, and yet we can't seem to keep that pen in our pocket where the U.N. is concerned.

We could not get out of NAFTA or GATT tomorrow if we wanted to. Mexico is considering suing us through a U.N. agency for the right of Mexican workers to get back pay if they are fired, and they have sued because we won't just open up our borders to their trucks.

Even though the U.N. has ruled in Mexico's favor they don't have the power at present to force us to let them in, but they do have the power to levy heavy fines on us until we agree. They will eventually have the power to place on the USofA the same kind of sanctions that are on Iraq, Cuba, and South Africa.

The U.N. has joint control of 75% of our government held land, they have to be consulted as to when, if, and how it can be used.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Thanks for the reply.
From what I understand this "court" treaty has no impact UNLESS it is ratified by the US Senate.
So until it is voted upon the UN and it's "court" are a moot point regardless what the UN says.
Without the US and US money they become even more worthless.
So let them continue to try their commie peer, I'm sure not going to worry about a commie in a commie court.

Sign this PETITION for the U.S. to get out of the U.N.

[xm177e2]

the world body's "charter gives neither the U.N. General Assembly nor any other U.N. agency lawmaking authority."

Strict constructionists are always making fascists mad...

[A Navy Vet]

President Bush was VERY clear in a speech that he won't support any kind of UN tax. I'll see if I can find it.

[A Navy Vet]

"The U.N. has joint control of 75% of our government held land, they have to be consulted as to when, if, and how it can be used."

Please show me where the UN has joint "control" over ANY American land.

[Nitro]

This court isn't for the average citizen, it's so some pissant country can charge high level officials when things don't break their way!!

[VA Advogado]

Ron Paul got his head handed to him the other night on Hannity & Combs. He came off as a defender of the PLO and Arafat. Disgusting. This guy is a clown who should be booted out of congress. We've never ratified this world court treaty so his bill is just a joke. He's as bad as that clown Cynthia McKinney and her conspiracies.

[VA Advogado]

I might add that I am concerned for Israel also. I just hope we don't betray them.

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Calls begin for war crimes trial for Israelis

Didnt take the evil ones very long, did it?

[VA Advogado]

The U.N. meeting in Mexico was to accomplish this global tax system and there is no word, not one that I have heard about that says if they were successful or what Bush's position was on it, because he repeatedly refused to say before he left for the meeting, even though he had 4,000 letter's before him from concerned political action committees who had contacted the press to try to force an answer from him.

This is another one of your complete lies. Bush has come out strongly AGAINST the global tax. You're just a dishonest Bush basher. I kept searching your post for the sentence where you gave Bush credit for withdrawing Clinton's agreement that we join this world court. Couldn't find it.

[VA Advogado]

The U.N. has joint control of 75% of our government held land, they have to be consulted as to when, if, and how it can be used.

You're on drugs. Put down the peyote pipe.

[VA Advogado]

From what I understand this "court" treaty has no impact UNLESS it is ratified by the US Senate. So until it is voted upon the UN and it's "court" are a moot point regardless what the UN says.

You're right, MissAmericanLIE is completely wrong. By the way, NAFTA and GATT are not treaties. They are trade agreements that were enacted by law. If you recall, they were voted on by BOTH Houses of congress. Treaties are ratified only by 2/3 of the Senate. MAP is wrong again.

[VA Advogado]

President Bush was VERY clear in a speech that he won't support any kind of UN tax. I'll see if I can find it.

Don't you know? If MAP doesn't know Bush's position, then he must be on the evil side. Please don't throw facts in her path, they get in the way of her Bush bashing. What a propagandist.

[RushLake]

Good idea about sending it to the Senate floor. I can almost guarantee the Carl Lenin and Little Debby Stabenow of Michigan would vote in favor of it. They have never met a plan to control the citizens that they couldn't abide.

[Publius6961]

Seems to me that national sovereignty is the central pillar of the UN charter.
The "self determination" clause was a hand grenade introduced late in the formation of the UN by mischief makers...
Will have to do a little research to remember how...

Everybody was against it at the time, but it "seemed" harmless enough.

[Publius6961]

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