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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

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To: LucyT

Those “art” photos look like could have been taken in a cottage apartment.


6,241 posted on 11/09/2008 1:06:01 PM PST by bvw
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To: palmer; Polarik; Brown Deer; Calpernia; Kevmo; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; ...
Thanks, palmer. I'm not the expert here, but let's ping a few people who can help you.

In my experience, seals are stamped on the front side of a document.

6,242 posted on 11/09/2008 1:10:58 PM PST by LucyT
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To: palmer; LucyT
The OFFICIAL statement from an official of the Department of Health of the State of Hawaii is that "the state seal is imbedded in the certificate by machine and the back of the certificate would have the printed signature of the State Registrar. The lettering is imbedded in the seal." Your statement that the seal is stamped from the back contradicts the OFFICIAL statement from the Department of Health of the State of Hawaii. You still don't get it do you? The birth certificate is a fake!

6,243 posted on 11/09/2008 1:51:16 PM PST by Brown Deer
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To: All
who is Barry Hussein 0bomba?

The OFFICIAL statement from an official of the Department of Health of the State of Hawaii is that "the state seal is imbedded in the certificate by machine and the back of the certificate would have the printed signature of the State Registrar. The lettering is imbedded in the seal."
6,244 posted on 11/09/2008 1:58:04 PM PST by Brown Deer
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To: palmer
>>>they are backwards because the seal was stamped from the back

::smirks::

6,245 posted on 11/09/2008 2:08:58 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: SE Mom

What happens if it is proven he isn’t eligible?

I’d think the election itself is invalid so it has to be reedone.

It’s not like he was legitimately elected and something happened to him or he was impeached.


6,246 posted on 11/09/2008 2:10:10 PM PST by rexgrossmansonlyfan (I got it bad. I live in the state Obama was elected to the Senate from IN HILLARYS HOMETOWN!)
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To: Diver Dave
Birth Certificates are not issued for Messiahs. Move Along. :)

LOL!!!

6,247 posted on 11/09/2008 2:10:46 PM PST by FrdmLvr (What fresh hell is this?)
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To: RubyR
What a weirdly composed article.

Example 1: This sentence:

"Those were listings that came over from the state Department of Health," he said. "They would send the same thing to both papers."
Is followed immediately by this one:
Fringe theorists who insist Obama was born in Kenya are left to ponder how two independent Honolulu daily newspapers and the state Department of Health could be part of conspiracy half a century ago to thwart the truth about the future president of the United States.
Obfuscation Alert: The answer about the two papers is what the first statement made obvious -- because the State Department send out the same list! So there did not have to be any conspiracy involving two papers, especially two that the article goes out of it's way to declare as "independent." That's either really confused thinking by the author and editors or it is deliberate obfuscation meant to mislead.

Dishonest Reporting Alert: It is not even necessary that the Department of Health be involved in a conspiracy either. They could have merely accepted a birth notice from some party. And that party could have misstated the place of birth. Private parties are allowed to record a notice of birth. It is simply dishonest to report that there had to be a conspiracy involving the any official.

Logical Fallacy Alert: The article presents a small subgroup "theorists who insist Obama was born in Kenya" as if that represents all who question the birth legend. I do not know if any of us "insist" Obama was born in Kenya! Some of us do think he *most likely* was, but that is NOT the same as insisting. What we all would like to know is the truth. We do, however, insist that we want the *truth*, whatever that may be.

The logical fallacy is that the most easily dismissed subgroup of researchers is used as the typical example of all who seek the simple truths of Obama's birth.

Prejudicial Bias Alert: The lead-off term "Fringe theorists" prejudices the reader. We are not fringe, and we are researchers as well as theorists. Actually, we'd love if the Hawaiian media would work with us to get to the truth. Assuming they want the truth, and not just the legend.

Example 2: This:

It's feasible the couple occupied the back cottage at 6085 Kalaniana'ole. Public records from the time show that Barack H. Obama, 25, also had a residence at 625 11th Ave. in Kaimuki.

Since those records show that Obama Sr. had the 11th Avenue dwelling at the same time he and his wife were living on Kalanianaole Highway, its possible the young Barack also visited that residence.

Frame Breaker Alert: Twice in these two sentences the report says that public records show that Obama Sr. lived on 11th Avenue. Why twice? Because the reporter is confused about it. It doesn't fit the narrative. When confused about a statement of facts that doesn't seem to fit prior assumptions it is a natural human tendency to repeat the frame-breaking fact.

For example, after a rough morning at work one coworker might say "Gee, it's two pm already!", and a natural response is "Two o'clock, already?!" Repetition of the fact that doesn't fit the assumption. Something that breaks a mental framing of reality is remarkable, we mentally note it verbally repeating the frame breaking fact.

Strange Idiom Alert: "It's feasible" is not an unknown idiom, but it is not common. Note that in the very next sentence the more common idiom "its possible" [sic] is used. The common grammar error "its" for "it is' is another clue of strangeness.

It seems to me that the reporter or editor deliberately tried to avoid the use of "it's possible" because that would infer that it is also possible that Obama's mom did NOT live at that address reported in the birth record. 'Feasible' doesn't queue up the same reaction in most readers, because the usage is rare.

Example 3: This:

By 1963 the Dunhams had moved into Apartment 110 of a six-year-old building at 1427 Alexander Street, records show. A year before, Obama Sr. had separated from his wife and child to attend Harvard University. In 1963, when she was a UH sophomore, Stanley Ann Obama's address was listed in a university directory as 2277 Kamehameha Ave. She filed for divorce in 1964. It can be assumed that she and young Barack also spent time with the Dunhams at the two-bedroom apartment on Alexander, which is also still there.
Time Jump Alert: We start this paragraph somewhere in 1963 on Alexander Street only to then fly back a vague sometime 'year earlier' to learn that dad ran off then.

Foggy Time Line Alert: The paragraph is very confusing, but it is obvious the reporter is going for a determinative time line, yet can't quite make it. As a possible signal of utter frustration the last paragraph ends "It can be assumed ..."

6,248 posted on 11/09/2008 2:12:30 PM PST by bvw
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To: LucyT
>>>>they are backwards because the seal was stamped from the back<<<

Money just doesn't buy good help these days huh?

6,249 posted on 11/09/2008 2:12:53 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: rexgrossmansonlyfan

>>>What happens if it is proven he isn’t eligible?

We get to witness Ahmadinejad cry.


6,250 posted on 11/09/2008 2:15:07 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: LucyT

My BC has nothing on the back.

Rubber stamped date on the front, offset printed state seal, offset printed county clerk-recorder seal, and offset printed signature.

There is an impressed seal crimped into the paper from the back to provide right reading text from the front. It has a logo including the letters ‘ACR’ in the center with fully formed letters between two solid concentric circles, ‘ASSESSOR-COUNTY CLERK-RECORDER [county name] OF [state]’

I can’t speak for what’s normal for any other state.


6,251 posted on 11/09/2008 2:16:59 PM PST by null and void (This isn't an election, it's a manifestation of a Salvador Dali painting. [Persistence of Division])
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To: LucyT

When using a seal, it should be impressed on TOP of the signature, but not in such a way to make the signature illegible. At least that seems to be the good practice when I’ve gotten official documents signed and sealed.


6,252 posted on 11/09/2008 2:18:30 PM PST by bvw
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To: LucyT

Thanks for the Ping, LucyT

Everything about Obama appears to be suspect. Someone has spent alot of time, effort and money to manipulate this web of fraud!!

Timelines, writings, photos, documents...
What is the true timeline for everything...what is the truth in the photos and documents??

Great job to everyone who is finding the truth!!


6,253 posted on 11/09/2008 2:19:54 PM PST by Iowan
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To: Calpernia

I believe they underestimated our desire to find the true answers.

This is amazing!


6,254 posted on 11/09/2008 2:29:26 PM PST by Iowan
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To: Iowan; Beckwith; palmer
You're welcome, Iowan.

Beckwith's Historical The Obama File is a fantastic compilation of information.

Beckwith is the only person on Planet Earth who cared enough to spend time, effort and money to do the research so the rest of us can read it for ourselves.

Here's the link:

http://www.theobamafile.com

6,255 posted on 11/09/2008 2:32:05 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Calpernia; Brown Deer

The seal is stamped from the back and readable the way it is stamped (from the back). Then the registrar signs in the middle of the seal (on the back where the seal is readable). When we look at the photos of the front of the document the seal appears backwards and is not signed.


6,256 posted on 11/09/2008 2:47:01 PM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: LucyT
Thanks, palmer. I'm not the expert here, but let's ping a few people who can help you.

In my experience, seals are stamped on the front side of a document.

On real COLBs that have real Seals, it's stamped on the reverse side along with the date stamp and signature stamp.

Lucy, I've been working all day on wrapping up Part Two, but I can tell you, and everyone, right now, that the seal impressions on the FactCheck photos are totally bogus. They're not even close.

I've been examining the impressions on photos #2 and #5, and i can't believe that I did not spot the anomalies before -- they are as big as barns, or in the case of the Factcheck photo #2, flat as a pancake.

I don't want to spill the beans yet, given that it will raise all sorts of questions, which are all answered in Part Two.

But, for those who cannot wait, there are a lot of embossed letters that look nothing like letters, period, let alone the letters on the real Seal.

Also, look at STATE of HAWAII, and tell me if you see the "of" -- you won't because it is not there. You'll see a hyphen.

Here's the real 2007 Seal:

Now, here's Factcheck's bogus Seal:

See? not only is the "of" missing, but the "M," "E," and "N" in DEPARTMENT are also missing parts.

And, the Caduseus is all messed up and looks quite different from the real one.

A lot more to come...it will finished by tomorrow morning.

6,257 posted on 11/09/2008 3:01:33 PM PST by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Brown Deer
The photos in your post are comparing a top view of the back of a legitimate document to a side view of the front of the factcheck document. But looking at the photo I linked above, there are differences in the lettering and placement of the lettering. The "MENT" in the authentic COLB displayed on the left is to the left of 12 o'clock. On the factcheck certificate, the N and T in "MENT" are roughly at 12 o'clock (top center).

So there is a difference in the seals. But contrary to the website that provides your photos, the seal on the factcheck certificate does in fact say "DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH" at the top and STATE of HAWAII at the bottom. I don't understand why you would put a lot of faith in a website that makes such a basic omission. If you are trying to prove a point, then please find a site that at least admits the plain fact that the seal in this photo: http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg really does say DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH and STATE of HAWAII

6,258 posted on 11/09/2008 3:02:23 PM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: Polarik

I would agree. The bottom of the caduceus points almost directly to the H in the lower seal. It is directly above the “f” in the upper seal.


6,259 posted on 11/09/2008 3:06:51 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Polarik; palmer
On real COLBs that have real Seals, it's stamped on the reverse side along with the date stamp and signature stamp.

Thanks for the information. Palmer will be interested in your comment.

Looking forward to your Part Two.

6,260 posted on 11/09/2008 3:12:34 PM PST by LucyT
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