Posted on 12/23/2010 4:08:30 PM PST by The Looking Spoon
In light of Britain's Atheist Bus campaign this is probably a good time to mention I have always been a fan of the notion that I don't have enough faith to be atheist....
Apparently atheists don't have enough faith to be atheists either. There's probably no god?!? Does that mean there probably is a God?
This sets up an interesting conundrum for atheist crusaders. If they are "probably right" about there being no God then everything will go black and when we die existence for us will cease to be.
If they are "probably wrong" and there is a God then what do they think will happen to them when they have to face Him in the next life?
Basically, they're damned if they don't, and they be damned if anyone could get them to "do."
By the way, I probably think atheist are stupid.
I would also say that it's most certainly true with a high degree of probability that "probably" is code for "definitely." Its also true with definite degree of probability that "stupid" is also meant to mean "seriously screwed."
They don't believe in God, so they see no need for religion, which prompts them to start an atheist cult so they can tell the world they're "probably" right...
Meanwhile, all people of faith are the logically bankrupt ones in this equation?
How does anyone get this way? Were these people tied to a chair and fed a constant diet of paint chips and helium?
Oh, I'm sorry, am I being ridiuclous?
By the way what is it that atheists think we are consumed by that they need to tell us to "stop worrying" Because of their belief that God is in control eople of faith are truly some of the most worry free people there are.
When anyone assumes you're something that you're not they're reallly projecting their own issues on to you. Without exception the non-religious people in my life are among the most miserable people I personally know. They can't enjoy their life because they get hung up on every little thing that goes wrong in it.
They sweat the small stuff because they don't think there is anything to look forward to after this life. So they want to get while the gettin' is good, and they're never satisfied. They don't know what people of faith know...nothing material in this life can provide permanent or lasting happiness better than faithfulness to God.
This Christmas will be spent as it should be, celebrating the birth of the Son of God, and I'll be doing so happily, because believing in God makes my life more enjoyable.
I'm not going to worry about people who spend their lives WORRIED about making sure people knew that life PROBABLY has no point.
Honestly atheists, I don't care what you want to believe...but please just go find a dark sound-proof closet that you can "play dead" in, and stop trying to be a bummer to people who want to play in the light.
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On a side note, I thought this was a pretty brilliant retort from Neil Stevens over at Red State, I don't think they'd take it well...
Door number 1?
Oh gosh, I DON’T KNOW!
;-P
Humans have been very adroit in creating non-existant gods and goddesses. Viewing that history has made me a bit chary, I guess. But then, I am a sucker for empirical evidence.
I guess.
Maybe.
Sort of but then again, you have no proof of any kind, do you? I mean, anything besides a book that has only itself to recommend itself. Sort of circular logic there isn't it?
That would be true of Christianity because our religious text tell us to do so out of concern for others future in the after life. But it is not true of religions such as Judaism and Shintoism (several native American religions will not permit non-natives to join).
But Atheist do not (as far as I know) have such a motivating religious text or altruistic motive.
Are you familiar with any of Christian scripture?
I think you would find your questions to be answered/moot if you were familiar with it AND you understood what you were reading.
That’s my two cents :-)
Hopefully you’re being sarcastic...but since I have no reason to believe that I’ll ask have you ever been to a church service or studied the Bible to any degree?
Are you a parent? If so, have you ever had your kids ask for/demand something, and you said no...not because you couldn’t do it...but because you knew “no” was for their own good?
If not, can you think of a time your parents did that for you?
How is this relationship any different when God is part of the equation?
Is His job really to prevent life from “sucking” for anyone?
OK. I'm just pointing out that logic is not the end-all since it depends on axioms, beliefs. Empirical evidence is only true for the immediate situation. It is logic that provides the implication to allow the empirical evidence to be applied outside the immediate. Yet logic presumes axioms.
Are you a mind reader? For a logical person you must be, since you need proof and yet you assert that I have no proof of any kind(at least the implication is there). Yes I do have EVIDENCE, not proof. But to you, I believe, it would be coincidence. But I will relate it anyway.(and it is one of many)
One day I was held over after a meeting in Oklahoma City. I was there from Virginia where I normally work. I did go to OK City a few times a year. I wanted to leave the meeting immediately to avoid traffic. As I said I was held up. On my way out I went to an ATM to withdraw money which I never did at those times since I was going home and did not need the spending money. I don't know what prompted me to do so. As I drove to the airport I decided to travel a different longer route to avoid the traffic from the city. As I travelled the route and joined the leg parallel to my intended route, I noticed a car that looked exactly like my sister's car. Well my sister lives in Arizona not Oklahoma, but it was my sister. I waved and got her attention. We pulled off of the freeway into a nearby restaurant and greeted each other. Amazed at the coincidence we chatted for a while before I had to leave to catch my plane. I sensed something about my sister and asked if she needed money. She said yes, she had been worried since she did not have any money and had prayed about it. I gave her the $100 I had withdrawn.
I think that it mostly conceit. They like to think themselves intellectually superior to the religious.
The ad campaign is an “IN Your Face” childish taunt to the Christians during their holiday.
>> Numbers of believer is not proof. Long-standing belief is not proof.
Correct. It’s akin to the axiom upon which proofs are constructed.
The underpinnings of every proof ultimately meet the wall of indefensible truth, that which you accept as a given truth of rational thought.
The devil respects God, yet disobeys.
Ping
He’s lucky he had the chance.
Not everyone is so fortunate.
THX. Will check it out.
May you be at peace and somehow more healed and restored in this flood of food season . . . Lord, you know my Sister’s needs.
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