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1177 BCE, the year a perfect storm destroyed civilization
Haaretz ^ | April 13, 2015 | Julia Fridman

Posted on 05/03/2015 3:35:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sometime after 1200 BCE, civilization collapsed, and a dark age prevailed.

The Late Bronze Age collapse of societies throughout the Levant, the Near East and the Mediterranean some 3,200 years ago has been a mystery. Powerful, advanced civilizations disappeared, seemingly overnight. Now an archaeologist believes he has figured out what lay behind the cataclysm.

The trigger seems to have been the invasion of ancient Egypt in 1177 BCE by marauding peoples known simply as the “Sea Peoples,” as recorded in the Medinet Habu wall relief at Ramses III' tomb. The relief depicts a sea battle (and also carts full of supplies, women and children, something that always puzzled researchers. Why would the women and children have been at a sea battle, and why were there chariots? Did they bring them on ships as well?) The foreigners were depicted wearing distinct head gear....

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TOPICS: History; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: 1177bc; archaeology; bronzeage; bronzeagecollapse; catastrophism; civilization; eberhardzangger; egypt; ericcline; erichcline; godsgravesglyphs; history; levant; medinethabu; peleset; peopleofthesea; pereset; ramses3; ramsesiii; seapeople; seapeoples
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To: Mastador1

No it stands for Before the COMMON Era


101 posted on 05/03/2015 7:02:54 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Focault's Pendulum; PetroniusMaximus; 2ndDivisionVet

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Works for other websites (not all), but that’s all I’ve cared about so far.


102 posted on 05/03/2015 7:14:03 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Colorado Doug
However Cline even suggests that ISIS could be the modern day equivalent of the Sea People, sparking mass migrations and destablising the lands they invade. He said: 'Even with all of our technological advancements, we are not immune.'

Only if we continue to be pussies re:these clowns.

103 posted on 05/03/2015 7:17:33 PM PDT by xone
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To: Tzfat

He wasn’t born in 1 AD.

Every idiot knows that “AD” means “in the year of our Lord — anno domini”. The year 1 is the year that people thought Jesus was born, when the AD dating system was started. We’re still using the AD — “in the year of our Lord” — dating system. We’re still dating our calendar from the year in which that the calendar’s authors thought Jesus was born. But PC leftist have changed AD to BCE in order to try to deny that they’re using the Christian dating system. PC always denies reality — that’s what it’s all about.


104 posted on 05/03/2015 7:27:50 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sometime after 2015 A.D., civilization collapsed, and a dark age prevailed.
The Late iPhone Age collapse of societies throughout the USA has been a mystery. Powerful, advanced cities disappeared, seemingly overnight. Now an archaeologist believes he has figured out what lay behind the cataclysm.

The trigger seems to have been the invasion of angry cities in 2015 A.D. by marauding peoples known simply as the “Street Peoples,” as recorded in the Madatitnow Babywall relief at Ferguson tomb. The relief depicts a street battle (and also carts full of stolen groceries, tv sets, iPhones, supplies, women and children, something that always puzzled researchers. Why would the women and children have been at a street battle [your MAMA!] and why were there burning cop cars and overflowing shopping carts? Did they bring them on ships as well? [no] The foreigners in Baltimore were depicted wearing distinct head gear called hoodies....

there fixed it right proper


105 posted on 05/03/2015 7:32:20 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))
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To: reasonisfaith

“BCE” and “CE” are just plain stupid.

No, it’s worse than stupid. It’s a calculated, insidious attempt to de-Christianize our civilization, by denying that our civilization uses a calendar that dates years from when (it was originally thought) that Christ was born. We’re in the year 2015 by the Christian calendar, i.e. 2015 years since Jesus originally was thought to be born. In contrast, in the Chinese calendar it’s the year 4,045 (or round abouts), because they don’t start with Jesus. The Muslims have a different year-counting method too. the West counts from the time of Jesus — but the PC crowd want to deny that by substituting CE and BCE (but still use the Christian calendar counting of 2015)


106 posted on 05/03/2015 7:45:03 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

So since we all know He was born earlier, shouldn’t we change the dating? I mean really, you guys are simply dishonoring Him by using a freak from the sixth century faulty dating mechanism.

If you are so against renaming a bad dating systems, why not abandoned the gregorian dating too. That was a modern innovation too...


107 posted on 05/03/2015 7:58:40 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

If you want to abandon reference to Jesus, then you should say it’s the year 2768 - that would be dating from what is thought to be the year Rome was founded. Or it’s the year 1637 — 1637 years since Mohammed’s hegira.

but anyone who says “this is the year 2015” is using the Christian calendar - 2015 years since Christianity began. You can change the terminology to BCE or CE, but you’re still using the Christian dating system, still dating from the time of Christ, not from any other event of significance. So BCE or CE is a fraud - an attempt to deny that you’re doing what you’re doing. An attempt to whitewash Jesus out of history, while still using a date system founded by Christians, based on Christian belief.


108 posted on 05/03/2015 8:05:51 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII
PC always denies reality — that’s what it’s all about.

Absolutely. They MUST LIE, no one would ever vote for them if they told the truth.

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Somewhere within boundaries of illusion, lies & deception is reality of Modern Day Liberalism. Daylight disinfectant destroys it.

109 posted on 05/03/2015 8:07:04 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I saw this book in the shop about a year ago.

I DL’d the Kindle free sample but never bought because it was simply too pricey for me. I decline to pay >$20 Dollars for an E-book, period.


110 posted on 05/03/2015 8:11:51 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: Mastador1

Actually, I think that BCE stands for “before Common Era”, not Christian era. The PC malignants would never use the word Christian except as an insult.


111 posted on 05/03/2015 8:12:05 PM PDT by lafroste
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I did a search...

http://www.sdjewishworld.com/2014/06/29/year-ancient-civilization-collapsed/

http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2014/08/19/341573332/lessons-from-the-last-time-civilization-collapsed

http://www.arce.org/chapters/washingtondc/events/u746

I think it was because of the Exodus proving Israel worshipped the One True God. would ruin a false god economy, like the tulips, and the natural disasters, which we all know are controlled by Him also.


112 posted on 05/03/2015 8:12:49 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Radix

With Amazon Prime we get one free e-book a month, IIRC.


113 posted on 05/03/2015 8:15:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Popman

More likely an ancestor


114 posted on 05/03/2015 8:24:08 PM PDT by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm a little skeptical on the precision of the dating, myself. If you can't date a point event such as the epochal eruption on Santorini with any precision, I gently suggest that pinning down these events to a single calendar year might be a little optimistic.

It's a great story, though. The author spoils it a little, IMHO, by suggesting that ISIS is in any way reminiscent of the Sea Peoples - it simply doesn't stretch that far, ISIS is not a migratory operation nor does it consist of independent ethnicities; it is a political stew peculiar to our own age that is both artificial and evanescent. If we're still talking about it in a decade in anything but nostalgic terms I'll be very surprised.

This, though, is a little regrettable:

There is evidence in the archaeological record of climatic changes such as climate change...

Good God - that one needs an editor or an anaesthesioligist.

115 posted on 05/03/2015 8:31:54 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SunkenCiv

Thought you might find this interesting:

The Egyptian army headquarters in Sinai during the New Kingdom discovered

http://luxortimesmagazine.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-egyptian-army-headquarters-in-sinai.html


116 posted on 05/03/2015 9:42:20 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: lafroste

Yes, but in reality, it’s Before the Christian Era. Because the Christian Era began in year 1 AD or thereabouts. No other event or change of historical significance took place at that time. Our calendar is centered on the beginning of the Christian Era, no matter what thee PC people say. So their lies aside, the years “BCE” or the years before the Christian Era.


117 posted on 05/03/2015 9:57:51 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Cuts though the BS and gets right down to business didn't he?

We were taught this at The Basic School at Quantico (Basic Infantry Officer's Course - USMC) as a classic example of a succinct mobilization order.

Nearly 80 years after it was issued, it is still a winner!

118 posted on 05/03/2015 10:05:34 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: WilliamIII

You seem to be saying that using other calendars is OK in your world. Well, guess what - everyone that uses the BCE and CE reference is using the Common calendar, and no, not everyone is trying to “obscure” Christian reference (and what again happened in 1 AD that makes you so rabid?).

In the Hebrew calendar the year is 5775. The Julian date is 2457146.5. In the Christian Gregorian calendar it is 2015. In the Common calendar, it is also 2015.

For the past 15 years, I have written calendar software for Windows, Mac, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch etc. I can tell you, that we have left your BC/AD long ago. You must have a lot of pent up angst to let a little thing like BCE and CE to bother you. You better move on. It is better for your health.


119 posted on 05/04/2015 4:38:03 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: WilliamIII
The year 1 is the year that people thought Jesus was born, when the AD dating system was started.

But He wasn't born in 1 CE. He was born between 4 and 6 BCE, and every idiot that knows history knows that.

You are like the COBOL coder from 1999 that insists that we should still be using two digit years. Sheesh, why perpetuate an error?
120 posted on 05/04/2015 4:41:15 AM PDT by Tzfat
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