Posted on 07/27/2011 12:00:44 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows
What's the matter with kids today and why doesn't anyone want them around? In June, Malaysia Airlines banned babies from many of their first class cabins, prompting other major airlines to consider similar policies.
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Earlier this month, McDain's, a Pittsburgh area restaurant that banned kids under 6 became a mascot for the no-kids-zone movement.
According to a Pittsburgh local news poll, more than half of area residents were in favor of the ban. And now big business is paying attention.
"Brat bans could well be the next frontier in destination and leisure-product marketing," writes Robert Klara in an article on the child-free trend in AdWeek.
Klara points to Leavethembehind.com, a travel website for kid-free vacations, with a massive list of yoga retreats, luxury resorts and bargain hotels around the world that ban children.
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I have a relative who, when she got married, requested that parents not bring children to the ceremony (this included close relatives), so as to avoid the possibility of any sort of disruption of the “perfect” wedding.
The wedding was a lavish but sad and shallow affair. The marriage failed in an ugly crack-up after 2 years.
Congratulations on raising civilized members of the human race.
There is no such place. Some people are oblivious and stay that way all their life.
Yeah, yeah, some kids are brats. That can be dealt with on an ad hoc basis. And I’m not for bringing kids into a nightclub or something. But it’s getting scary when kids are seen more as burdens than blessings. We, the mere “breeders”, need backing, not disparaging.
It is his business and his decision. If you don't agree with it you are free to patronize another business. If his business suffers he may choose to change his policy. If his business improves others may choose to copy it.
That is how FREE enterprise works.
Such inept and lazy parents produce individuals who are a problem not only for them but also for the rest of society.
My parents had a copy of Dr. Spock's book, until my mother threw it at my sister and broke it into about 6 pieces..... seriously.
I love all the comments about children encroaching on their “rights.” Forget al qaeda or socialism. The most pernicious threat to liberty, equality and fraternity is the screeching 4 year old.
These same star-bellied sneetches will no doubt be the first to bitch and moan about “their” social security check being reduced or their retirement account losing value. They’ll miss the irony of that being because there aren’t enough young adults to grow the economy, pay the taxes, and otherwise support them in the manner they’ve grown accustomed.
“Selfish to the core. It is always ALWAYS only about them. Give me. Mine. Me, me, me, me, me.”
Yup, and in so doing ensure that there isn’t much to be gotten. You have to plant a tree to have fruit, and you have to raise children to have a future. I guess the idea of helping out has never occurred to them.
As a Boomer—1946 vintage; the REAL “boom year”—I resent the characterization as “selfish”; “me, me, me...”. My parents made sure it was about ADULTS; not mme.
What it now boils down to is simply wanting what I pay for:
I pay for a cheap, fast belly full of ballast at McD’s or DQ, and all that goes with it is accepted and fully tolerated;
at a ‘family restaurant’, or even moderately nice place I’m paying for the, decent service, and clean utensils, and what goes with that is again tolerable and accepted;
when I take the trouble to break out the dinner clothes, and go to a good restaurant, I’m paying primarily for ambiance, and I darn well better get that; the food and service also has to be acceptable, but it is the intangables that are being paid for in that case and I want and deserve them.
I was TRYING to shop tonight while a “mother” let her two kids push one another in a shopping cart into people while screaming at the top of their lungs. She never said a damn word to them, not one. I just gave up and left.
“American adults are largely self indulgent immoral pigs these days. That goes hand in hand with the hatred of “breeders.”
I need to truncate that and use it as a tagline. Thanks!
“I have a relative who, when she got married, requested that parents not bring children to the ceremony (this included close relatives), so as to avoid the possibility of any sort of disruption of the “perfect” wedding.”
That’s almost as good as daytime Christmas parties where children are banned.
“I was TRYING to shop tonight while a “mother” let her two kids push one another in a shopping cart into people while screaming at the top of their lungs. She never said a damn word to them, not one.”
So...why didn’t YOU say something to them? Sometimes you have to be the example. Note- I didn’t say touch a hair on their little heads. A command voice from a stranger will often do what a tired parent cannot.
Because I had worked my ass off all day and wasn’t in the mood for a confrontation with mommy dearest.
As a baby Boomer, I noted we are the most selfish generation of Americans so far but I won’t blame my parent’s generation for causing it. Not straight up I won’t.
My parent’s generation tried to give them a good life after their hardships of the depression & WWII. They didn’t cause the problems with the Boomers. Communist infiltration and socialist activism caused it.
They were told you had to coddle your kids by Dr. Spock. They were told the death penalty was cruel and should be banned and prison should “rehabilitate” not punish. They were told welfare would save families. They were told that Ted Kennedy’s immigration laws wouldn’t cause their grandchildren to become minorities in their own nation.
They were sold a bad bill of goods. They were completely lied to and just didn’t know better and were trusting of the “experts” who were doing all they could to install the Communist manifesto. All they wanted after WWII was life, peace and happiness and the hope that their children would not know war and strife and anxiety.
It wasn’t their fault the baby boomers wound up being the most Selfish Generation.
Isn’t the birth rate down now? I know more couples without children than with. They are called DINKS. Double Income, no kids. A lot of these couples are both college educated, make good salaries and are married. They just have no desire for children.
Given the miserable state of parenting in this country, I fully understand the marketability of getting away from OPK’s (other people’s kids). However, there are fine parents doing the job that wasn’t uncommon just a generation or two back. Assuming that mom stays home and they homeschool, they probably can’t afford to go out to ear much anyway . . . ;)
Flame away.
We take our kids to nice restaurants. Restaurants that are considered expensive in our small town... total bill about $300 with tip and people thank us for our well behaved kids... then again, they’re home schooled.
On the one or two occasions that I have done just that, Mommie dearest went off on a skree that would have put the saltiest drunken sailor to shame. Yeah been there don that and won't make that mistake again.
Please keep in mind that I am a professional educator and I deal with other peoples kids all day long. The vast majority are not poorly behaved I would go so far asto say that they are very well behaved.
When we go to Cici's or the like we expect and look forward children running around, but when I take my wife to a nice (adult oriented) resturant I expect to see children sitting quietly if they are there at all.
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