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KERRY DISCHARGE - THE JIMMY CARTER LEGACY CONTINUES
MARK.SULLIVAN@CALAWCOUNSEL.COM | OTCOBER 29, 2004 | CAP'T DONALD L. NELSON,JAGC,USNR (Ret)

Posted on 10/30/2004 8:38:30 AM PDT by CHARLITE

Subject: KERRY DISCHARGE - THE JIMMY CARTER LEGACY CONTINUES

Words of Captain Donald L. Nelson, JAG corps USN ret I was on active duty as a U.S. Navy JAG when all of this was going on 25 to 30 years ago, and so was Mark F. Sullivan, who at all relevant times was the personal JAG to J. William Middendorf, then the Secretary of the Navy.

We are trying to break this absolutely true story nationwide, i.e., Fox News, C-Span, and hopefully the major networks. We are positive that John Kerry was one of those dishonorably dismissed from the Navy for collaborating with the Viet Cong after he was released from active duty but still in the Navy and for a totally unauthorized trip to Hanoi. He later got an "honorable" separation in 1978, some 12 years after joining the Navy, under President Carter's "Amnesty Program" for draft dodgers, deserters, and other malcontents who fled to Canada and Holland, among other places, to avoid military service to our country.

This is why he has refused, and continues to refuse, to release all of his Navy records: they reflect that he was Dishonorably Dismissed from the United States Naval Service. If they do not (which they do) he would have released them to the public. Again, he has not done so, because he well knows that the truth would kill his challenge to President Bush. If you would like to talk with me, I may be reached at telephone number (925) 964-0943 in Danville, California, or at DLNelsonSF@msn.com. Contact information for CAPT Sullivan is below.

Sincerely, DONALD L. NELSON CAPT, JAGC, USNR (Ret.)

Mark F. Sullivan Sullivan Taketa LLP 31351 Via Colinas, Suite 205 Westlake Village, CA 91362-4576 Tel. (818) 889-2299 mark.sullivan@calawcounsel.com


TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: discharge; jimmycarter; johnkerry; kerry; military
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To: CHARLITE

Why doesn't someone in the press just point blank ask Kerry?

silly me....never mind.


41 posted on 10/30/2004 2:53:12 PM PDT by Samwise (Proud to be a Security Mom married to a NASCAR Dad)
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To: CHARLITE; WestCoastGal; Fierce Allegiance; aynrandfreak; housewife101; mnehrling; rrrod; ...
This is why he has refused, and continues to refuse, to release all of his Navy records: they reflect that he was Dishonorably Dismissed from the United States Naval Service. If they do not (which they do) he would have released them to the public. Again, he has not done so, because he well knows that the truth would kill his challenge to President Bush.
42 posted on 10/30/2004 3:46:03 PM PDT by SheLion ( Rove knew that sKerry was a man that stood for nothing and therefore would fall for anything.)
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To: CHARLITE
Brokaw interview with Kerry. Interesting response to military records question.

Brokaw: Someone has analyzed the President's military aptitude tests and yours, and concluded that he has a higher IQ than you do.

Kerry: That's great. More power. I don't know how they've done it, because my record is not public. So I don't know where you're getting that from

43 posted on 10/30/2004 3:48:41 PM PDT by SheLion ( Rove knew that sKerry was a man that stood for nothing and therefore would fall for anything.)
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To: Samwise
Why doesn't someone in the press just point blank ask Kerry?


It was asked (sorta), in 1971-2 in an interview.

Host -- "was there ever a question of a dishonorable discharge"?
Kerry -- "No, there was no question".

A non-denial denial.
44 posted on 10/30/2004 3:52:36 PM PDT by Jackson Brown
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To: bitt
I would like to know Senator Kerry's answers to these questions.

Wouldn't we all, for him running to be OUR world representative gives us the reason to to know who would be representing us.

45 posted on 10/30/2004 4:00:21 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: SheLion
Thanks for the pingaling SheLion!! : )
46 posted on 10/30/2004 4:01:14 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: EGPWS
Wouldn't we all, for him running to be OUR world representative gives us the reason to to know who would be representing us.

I'm sure this has been sent to Sean Hannity over and over, yet he never brings it out as well. I just can't understand it. Someone has a stronghold on this story!

47 posted on 10/30/2004 4:05:29 PM PDT by SheLion ( Rove knew that sKerry was a man that stood for nothing and therefore would fall for anything.)
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To: EGPWS
Thanks for the pingaling SheLion!! : )

You're welcome. I thought I killed the thread. :(

48 posted on 10/30/2004 4:06:09 PM PDT by SheLion ( Rove knew that sKerry was a man that stood for nothing and therefore would fall for anything.)
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To: doug from upland
Doug from upland,

Is this a "less than honorable" discharge? What exactly is the verbage. I understand that it is different from a dishonorable discharge. See post #9 by dsensing.

I know you guys will get this right. I just want to know what the different kinds of discharges other than honorable there are and which one Kerry was given. The more and more I think about Kerry, his activities, etc... and his NOT signing the 180, the more I am convinced that his discharge was NOT HONORABLE.
49 posted on 10/30/2004 4:06:35 PM PDT by dixiechick2
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To: EGPWS

It's too late, though. Look how many people have already voted.


50 posted on 10/30/2004 4:07:29 PM PDT by SheLion ( Rove knew that sKerry was a man that stood for nothing and therefore would fall for anything.)
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To: shield

he needs to move to leavenworth, where he should have been for the past 30 yrs.

since he has already had prostate surgery, he will be in great demand as a wife.


51 posted on 10/30/2004 4:10:12 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: EGPWS; All

see this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1263026/posts?page=6#6


52 posted on 10/30/2004 4:12:25 PM PDT by bitt (F'n, Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?)
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To: wvromania; Recovering Ex-hippie

Have you seen his?


53 posted on 10/30/2004 4:13:48 PM PDT by Chieftain (Swift Boat Veterans and POWs for Truth: send EVERYONE to www.stolenhonor.com)
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To: wvromania; Recovering Ex-hippie

Have you seen his?


54 posted on 10/30/2004 4:13:56 PM PDT by Chieftain (Swift Boat Veterans and POWs for Truth: send EVERYONE to www.stolenhonor.com)
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To: cajun-jack

Of course, he should be jailed...I wish oh how I wish he'd be jailed after this election. ;o)


55 posted on 10/30/2004 4:17:53 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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John Kerry's Discharge
He won't sign Form 180
What is he hiding?

Kerry's Dishonorable Discharge?
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56 posted on 10/30/2004 4:20:00 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Nov 2 : Remember the 58,000 + Names on the Wall)
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To: dsensing

I'm curious as to why you believe such news would have no affect on the election. Do you base this on the fact that Clinton vs Flowers issue came to light during the campaign and yet he was still elected? Do you believe no one really cares if he had received an OTH? Do you believe that no one would believe it? Other?


57 posted on 10/30/2004 4:27:37 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: rocklobster11; Interesting Times

Is there not an archive of the list of people pardoned under Carter in either Carters library online, or the White House archives?

Is this what Berger was stuffing down his clothes in the library - to remove evidence?


58 posted on 10/30/2004 4:29:39 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican (~ ~ ~ Democrats ~ We vote twice so you don't have to! ~ ~ ~)
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To: Manny Ortiz

Do you (as Dems think Rove planned the OBL tape) believe this story was planted by Schrum, et al?


59 posted on 10/30/2004 4:30:53 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: CHARLITE
Kerrygot an "other than honorable" dicharge AFTER being court martialed. He was court martialed for a charge lower than "treason," which would have been a capital crime in time of war. Interestingly, a lesser charge was used for 3 reasons, (1) Kerry was a ecorated (even with the fudging) officer, (2) he was well connected and (3) President Nixon was a former USN officer and felt that a capital crime of treason would reflect poorly on the service. So Kerry was cashiered for a charge below treason, "aiding and abetting," "lending aid and comfort," "treating with in time of war?"

Carter then pardoned Kerry in 1977, although it may have been under his broad clemency abilities rather than under the Amnesty order.

In any event, the records are in the Office of the Pardon Attorney, Dept. of Justice, DC and should be available to any one who asks.

That the media has not pursued this issue is a disgrace and proves the media's falsity. Something must be done to ensure that the media can no longer impose it's political biases on the rest of us.

60 posted on 10/30/2004 4:33:07 PM PDT by Tacis ("Kerry - Working For America In The Tradition Of Benedict Arnold & Ho Chi Minh!")
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