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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
Shows someone intentionally lied about his age in order to try to make him eligible to be President.

That site that said he was 3 in 1967 is run or edited apparently by Barnett an award winner at CBS.

1,201 posted on 07/05/2008 1:14:15 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Just absolutely damn!


1,202 posted on 07/05/2008 1:14:36 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle ABORTION - The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaFamily.htm

“It’s understandable that Obama overlooks the particulars, since Ann Dunham was probably a minor when Barack Obama Sr., an already married 24-year-old, impregnated her?

Obama weighed eight pounds, two ounces when he was born on August 4, 1961 (p. 22 of Dreams from My Father), so we can assume he went close to full term, or nine months.

His parents’ marriage took place six months before his birth on February 2nd, 1961. Nine months before Obama’s birth would be early November 1960, about three to four weeks before Ann Dunham’s 18th birthday on November 29, 1960...”


1,203 posted on 07/05/2008 1:27:28 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: null and void
Could be that Hillary's folks have know about this age discrepancy for some time.

The whole scenario we are going through right now may just what her doctor ordered.

Hillary can actually afford to wait until just before the convention to spring the trap that those old nasty conservative blogers have found that Obam is not qualified err...really qualified because his past family life is so screwed up literally.

At this point all we know about Obama or whoever he really (he might be Junta Quinta) is that he was born on planet earth to a woman about 17 who later married a man who was married to another woman then his mother separated and moved in with another man who took them to Indonesia and then blah, blah, blah, blah damn this is confusing.

1,204 posted on 07/05/2008 1:41:40 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle ABORTION - The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: OKIEDOC
This snopes site refutes the wells site though and states that the quote in the wells site only applies if born outside the US. So according to Snopes Obama is eligible if he was born in Hawaii.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

1,205 posted on 07/05/2008 1:47:30 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
This would account for the 3 year discrepancy and how they lied in the article and said that he was 3 in 1967. They tried to make it look like he was born in 1964 maybe so that the mother would have been 21 when in fact she was 18.

This I think is it.

I think your analysis is correct. This looks like a real bombshell...

1,206 posted on 07/05/2008 1:51:48 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins; SE Mom
Not taking a position on this but does this article show the real or a forged certificate?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html

This is a find because it has the Obama Campaign claiming this is indeed the authentic passport of Obama. Which we know now to be a forgery...

Quote from this blog:

(UPDATE: In reaction to some of the comments left below challenging the veracity of the document, Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, sent the following reaction to The Ticket: "I can confirm that that is Sen. Obama's birth certificate.")

--Andrew Malcolm

1,207 posted on 07/05/2008 1:58:13 AM PDT by dalight
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To: Cyropaedia
The question then that I have is Does that rule quoted on the wells site only apply to people born outside the US? or would it apply to people born in the US too.

If it doesn't apply to people born in the US as the snopes article suggests then the question is where was Obama born?

What do you make of this part of it?

1,208 posted on 07/05/2008 1:59:24 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Spunky

In 1967 and therabouts, there was a period when we wore “sack “ dresses that looked like maternity dresses. We wore them short with white stockings. I remember mine and my mother in law laughing when she saw me in it saying I looked pregnant.It was all the rage with the young hippie set. And those were the years of hippie clothing, long with beads and loose fitting.


1,209 posted on 07/05/2008 2:06:30 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: dalight
Check out what Thomas Sowell of the Hoover Institute of Stanford has to say on this according to the site: http://bitsblog.florack.us/?p=10094

He backs up the wells site it seems, not the snopes site.

1,210 posted on 07/05/2008 2:06:40 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
Well, after that link said Obama was 3 in 1967, I'm not sure what to think.

We now realize that there's a lot of misinformation being fed to a lot of different parties.

Someone is trying to cover up something. Maybe Obama actually was born outside the U.S..

We already know that they told the (step) grandmother to lie about being a Muslim. She told the NY Times she was a Muslim, but told USA Today that she was a Christian.

1,211 posted on 07/05/2008 2:13:38 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Spunky

It looks too long for a maternity top to me. I think it is sort of a prairie dress/sack. We all wore them in the sixties. But I miss my muu muu,,I remember that my sisters and I all were young, having babies and loved our mumus. In fact I have apic of me in one in 1972!!


1,212 posted on 07/05/2008 2:15:43 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Isn’t his birthday DEc 7? That might account for ayear discrepancy. I think he is turning 47 isn’t he? In Dec of this year.


1,213 posted on 07/05/2008 2:17:36 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: Enchante

Russian was a hot study in 1960 and after. I had friends studying it in the early sixties. It was right after sputnik and was a pretty novel and new major in college. Studying Russian doesn’t make a communist in my experience.


1,214 posted on 07/05/2008 2:21:30 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: cajungirl
No December doesn't account for it. It is a 3 year discrepancy. The forged birth certificate says that he was born in 1961. The linked article says that he was 3 years old in 1967. This was I think intentional to try to make the mother look like she was 21 at the age of his birth, 5 years over 16, rather than 18 years old as she was apparently in 1961.
1,215 posted on 07/05/2008 2:30:21 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins; SE Mom
I got to digging through your prior link and see that much of this has already been said 10 days ago. So we are kind of retreading this water. More interestingly, I found some stuff in one of the posts that set off some bells about folks who are posting here with an anti-McCain agenda.

At some point, someone is going to have to make some sort of formal legal action to challenge Obama's citizenship.

I don't know what forum that would take or who has legal standing. I think that the Reps would rather let this fester until the convention is over at this point.. seeing that this analysis is essentially in the bank and MSM has decided to let it die for now.

We will see.. but unless and until something solid comes from Kenya... I believe that this thread had done all it can for now.

I have been impressed even though it has alot of fever swamp running around.

1,216 posted on 07/05/2008 2:32:03 AM PDT by dalight
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To: cajungirl
3 year difference between reported birth years of 1961 and 1964 and a 3 year difference between the mother being 18 and 21 and it possibly having bearing on whether he is eligible to be president.

I don't think that this is coincidence.

The article could have gotten it wrong accidentally and stated that he was 3 years old in 1967 when it should have stated that he was older.

Again the forged birth certificate says that he was born in 1961. That is a 3 year difference whether he was born in 1961 or 1964. This isn't a one year dating difference that we are talking about.

I don't think it was an accident that there is a 3 year difference in the reported birth year and a 3 year difference in the age that his mother may have needed to be for Obama to be eligible.

I believe people lied intentionally.

1,217 posted on 07/05/2008 2:35:58 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Cyropaedia
Yes, if he was born outside the US that would have given reason to lie intentionally about what age he was.
1,218 posted on 07/05/2008 2:41:50 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

That is possible if they read the law as closely as we have.

When one is constantly confused as in this case,odd dates, sloppiness in labeling things, it is hard not to think that behind the “confusion” is an attempt to deceive. EVerything becomes so laden with mistaken info that the intent is suspect.

There is something odd here.


1,219 posted on 07/05/2008 2:44:58 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: davandbar
I KNEW THAT HIS FUND RAISING WAS BULL****.

OBAMA’S TROUBLING INTERNET FUND RAISING

One of the web site security monitors began to notice the bulk of the contributions were clearly coming in from overseas internet service providers and at the rate and frequency of transmission it was clear these donations were “programmed” by a very sophisticated user.

While the security people were not able to track most of the sources due to firewalls and other blocking devices put on these contributions they were able to collate the number of contributions that were coming in seemingly from individuals but the funds were from only a few credit card accounts and bank electronic funds transfers. The internet service providers (ISP) they were able to trace were from Saudi Arabia, Iran, and other Middle Eastern countries. One of the banks used for fund transfers was also located in Saudi Arabia.

1,220 posted on 07/05/2008 4:08:09 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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