These were taken at the same time, and are supposed to be when his father visited him at Christmas, I believe when he was around 10, or 1971 maybe. The boy looks like Barack to me.
Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
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No, I don't think so, although it is speculation.
I don't think they do good legal work either. I speculate the explanation is that they too at some point came up with Sec. 1409 (the statute making children born out of wedlock out of the country citizens of the US Parent); and because of its placement and adoption date concluded Obama had a shot at citizenship there; and started to lay the groundwork for the argument that his parents were not married. (As set out above on the legal site and above here somewhere, Sec. 1409 has an effective date identical to the modifications to the Sec. 1401(g) amendments reducing the time period condition to citizenship; and thus Sec. 1409 is not applicable to Obama.)
Just more rot from the islamic quisling candidate. Hat’s off to MoDo for exposing it.
If I remember correctly, the wording was that she was getting her passport. Not necessarily a FIRST one but a new one. She could have had a passport before and let it lapse. Just my thinking out loud here.
You said: “Negro and “colored” weren’t asked for.
Even Caucasion wasn’t used (lest it be mistaken for “colored”).”
1. I don’t know what the basis for your claims above are. Let me reiterate that I cannot PROVE Hawaii used this form in 1961, but there is no indication in any of the numerous vital statistics tabulations regarding Color that Hawaii’s form did not collect this information.
2. You can see a copy of the standard form in use in 1961 here: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/vsus_1961_1.pdf on pdf page 228. Note that:
• Item 8. requests “Color or Race” of Father.
• Item 10. requests Birthplace (State or foreign country) of Father
• Item 13 requests “Color or Race” of Mother
• Item 15 requests Birthplace (State or foreign country) of Mother
3. Note further that “Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese,Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and “other nonwhite.” See pdf page 231 at same cdc.gov URL. Thus, whoever was coding Obama’s birth should have been following this classification scheme. So you are correct that in the published vital statistics tabulations, by state, Census only reports White vs. non-white, but that doesn’t mean states weren’t collecting data at a finer level of aggregation.
4. Needless to say, “African” is not a race OR a color. While there certainly are many Blacks in Africa, there also are Afrikaners who are white, not to mention Arabs, Indians and others who certainly would not designate themselves as Black. So putting “African” in the race field would not have made sense. Moreover, if someone accidently did this in field 8, they would likely quickly recognize their mistake when they got to field 10 and had to fill in the father’s birthplace.
5. While the original birth certificates are filled out by hand and signed by doctor, I assume these records long ago were computerized (which is why the system can generate COLB when needed), in which case “funny stuff” such as an inadvertently miscoded Race field likely would have been flagged and corrected a long time ago using automated logic checks to ensure data was entered accurately.
6. We’ve already established that COLBs are generated automatically by a computer, and on Hawaii’s form, the Certification of Live Birth, it clearly states Father’s Race—not Birthplace—so with a computer was generating the copy, there’s no way it would have “mistakenly” grabbed the Birthplace field if for some reason African had been manually entered there. Realistically, “African” wouldn’t be the correct way to fill in the Birthplace field either: it should either have been Kenya or the town where Obama’s father was born).
Thus, apart from all the other digital evidence that these are forged documents, this error created suspicion in my mind from the get-go.
Obama needs to be exposed. If MoDo is the only one at the Times willing to do it, then great. She’s got more balls than David Brooks anyway.
Yes, it does...if it’s the real deal!
The FBI is too busy decrying the Second Amendment to investigate the purchase of the presidency by the ChiComs and Iranian Islamonazis.
How well I remember. And I agree with MoDo for the first time; there should be an investigation of these contributions. If she and other media/Democrats want to shill for the Clintons in this manner and call this stuff out, I'm all for it.
I take back the compliment I gave to MoDo then. LOL
. . . .and of course Michelle Obama "grew up in Jesse Jackson's house". . . .
The boy looks like Malik to me.
Heck, Danny Pearl got his head chopped off for those gem trade reports. It kept the rest of the series from being published.
PLEASE SEE POST # 1236
The Maureen Dowd piece is a spoof...or an expose of some kind- but it NOT WRITTEN BY MAUREEN DOWD.
(Sad to say)
Yeah, that was too good to be true.
Oh well, it is a side subject to the task at hand anyway.
Still, the only recommended categories for reporting race in 1961 that had any standing were "white" and "non white".
As far as "African" being a suitible answer for "race" it most certainly was suitible. The term was used for a couple of hundred years in legal documents called covenants on property deeds and titles. Usually there was a prohibition on selling your property to a "member of the African race".
It's dollars to doughnuts someone can come up with an Hawaiian territorian birthcertificate or two that has racial nomenclature that defies interpretation.
Don't know if you ever came back...but this baby's over 1200 replies right now.
Perfect example of the zaniness that has taken over this site.
Keep reading, apparently it’s a fake MoDo article.
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