source: usafricaonline.com
Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
(Excerpt) Read more at web.israelinsider.com ...
And this doesn’t make any sense -
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Opendna: When did you first hear about Barack Obama’s birth certificate?
Jay McKinnon: Around June 12th 2008.
Opendna: How did you first hear about it?
Jay McKinnon: As I recall, someone sent me an email containing two images. One of the Decosta birth certificate and the other from Fight The Smears. The subject line was ‘Birth Certificate Appears to be “Invalid.”’.
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Didn’t the DeCosta cert come out days after the BO cert? OpenDNA was posting about the BO cert within hours of it first being posted at Kos.
Ding-ding-ding! We have a winner:)
I’ve read it twice and find I’m not thinking too clearly...as though I just hopped off a fast-revolving merrygoround...
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos.
Obama Birth Certificate A Forgery?
Bryan McAffee
There has been speculation about this for a couple of weeks now, but it turns out that the birth certificate hosted on Daily Kos and then subsequently on Obama’s own web page was indeed a forgery. You can read more about this revelation here. There has been many efforts by independent journalists and private investigators regarding this birth certificate for weeks now. I have been convinced, based on the pixalation of the birth certificate, that the letters have been manipulated by some kind of photo editing software. Anyone who has done that kind of work knows what to look for. Now we have some fairly solid evidence thanks in part to an admission by a document specialist trained by the Department of Homeland Security and also a KOS blogger. I would recommend reading this story, it is very compelling and interesting.
The question brought up by this revelation is what exactly is Obama trying to hide? At first I thought all this hullabaloo about Obama’s BC was way over done. I found it akin to the allegations that McCain was not eligible to be President because he was not born in the United States. So too, I thought this talk about Obama fell in the same category. However, now I do have to wonder exactly what the story is here. Obama’s smear site has posted this same forged birth certificate, if they wanted to really “fight the smear” why not just scan a copy of the original birth certificate (with raised seal, etc.) on the site? Wouldn’t that be the best way to dispel all the rumors? Of course, let me add my usual disclaimer, this is of course a simple distraction from hopechangery, nothing to see here I’m sure.
http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=1684
To paraphrase what opendna said, this is roughly the equivalent of trying to determine if a particular bank note is valid by looking at a .jpg of it posted on a web site.
With glaring differences between the Decosta BC and the BHO BC we could be sure that one is a fake. Since your known good document is much closer to the BHO BC than the Decosta BC, I must conclude that the Decosta document is fake. In the absence of examining the paper BHO document, I can't conclude that the BHO BC is valid, but the case for it is much stronger than I thought when I got up this morning
At this point, I'm content to accept the BHO BC as genuine, pending further information.
This doesn't mean I think he's qualified to be President! It just means I think he probably meets the minimum Constitutional requirements for the job.
I just looked up the word dissemble in the dictionary. You’ll never guess whose picture was there.
source: usafricaonline.com
It does matter. Obama’s copy looks EXACTLY like mine.
I’m wondering how “Dolores” got a copy that looks so different, and why it was so easily swallowed and assumed to be the correct one when no one has bothered vetting “Dolores”. Maybe the printer was malfunctioning that day, that’s plausible. But what I DO know is that the “Dolores” copy claims to be the same version (Rev. 11/01) of Obama’s document (and mine) yet looks quite different.
My offer stands with Jim Robinson.
My apologies to you. You were 100% correct.
Please forgive me.
Please go to post #94, which validates your statement:
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Legal debate still surrounds McCain’s birth in the Panama Canal Zone
Austin Statesman ^ | July 5, 2008 | Eunice Moscoso
I saw that (very long and tedious) thread — it’s not a response to the very specific question I asked: namely, what facts do you have to support the “rumor” you stated here: that Obama was born in Kenya?
Yes, I think that facts, with sources are in fact set out there if you look.
The only support for the proposition that he was born in Hawaii is a birth certificate which is a demonstrated fraud.
One of his grandfather’s wives (he calls her his grandmother but she is not) and two of his half-siblings are quoted as having been present at his birth in Kenya. An update to the Wayne Madsen report claims investigators in Kenya have found official birth registration documents setting forth his birth in Kenya. Mother’s girlfriends on Mercer Island, having seen her in late August, 1961, shortly after the claimed birth date, state that she was out of the Country when he was born.
No real Hawaii birth record exists. No one claims to have been there or have any real knowledge it happened. The Hospital originally claimed as the birthplace was not constructed until three years after the birth. Newspaper Vital Statistic reports published in the local newspapers do not report the birth under the name he currently uses nor any of the other names he has used; his mother does not appear as a mother. The birth certificate is a fraud.
There is a compendium of other evidence set out in the earlier thread on both counts.
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm
“...The image became increasingly suspect with Israel Insider’s revelation that variations of the certificate image were posted on the Photobucket image aggregation website — including one listing the location of Obama’s birth as Antarctica, one with the certificate supposedly issued by the government of North Korea, and another including a purported photo of baby Barack — one of which has a “photo taken” time-stamp just two minutes before the article and accompanying image was posted on the left-wing Daily Kos blog.
That strongly suggests that Daily Kos obtained the image from Photobucket, not the State of Hawaii, the Obama family, or the Obama campaign. Photobucket is not generally known as a credible supplier of official vital records for any of the fifty states, and the liberties that other Photoshoppers took with the certificates confirms this...”
http://photobucket.com/images/birth%20certificate%20obama/
The 1790 Alien Naturalization Act, enacted by Congress on Mar. 26, 1790, dictated the following:
“Be it enacted by the Senate and the House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That any alien, being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen therof, on application to any common law court of record, in any of the states wherein he shall have resided for the term of one year at least, and making proof to the satisfaction of such court, that he is a person of good character, and taking oath of affirmation prescribed by law, to support the constitution of the United States... And the children of such persons so naturalized, dwelling within the United States, being under the age of twenty-one years at the time of such naturalization, shall also be considered as citizen of the United States. And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits..., shall be considered as natural born citizens...”
And in 1961 HNL had old-style terminals. Their new jet-age terminal was not completed until August 1962.
>>>and taking oath of affirmation prescribed by law<<<<
Would this be documented someplace? That would be the naturalization process, no?
How does this apply to Obama?
Before a jury, we don't show evidence to just one juror, we show to all or none.
Do you know if there ever was a sourced article attached to this graphic? Any documents, interviews...anything other than speculation and/or wishful thinking?
I admit I have not done extensive research on this - which is why I keep asking for pointers - but what I have found is reports going back at least to 2004, including interviews with his Kenyan relatives, which all say that the first time he visited Kenya was in the early 80s after his father died.
Especially in light of the McKinnon forgery admission, I am very interested in seeing something, anything, other than mere speculation to support the notion that Obama was born in Kenya.
http://s297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/thepubba/?action=view¤t=BO_birthcert.jpg
Copy of B. Hussein Obama’s birth certificate with baby picture included
LOL!
Yes, there was a source article. That site has been very up to date following Obama. They are very excited about his rise to power.
That alone, no is not enough evidence. But compiled with everything else, yes. Enough evidence to demand answers.
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