Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
(Excerpt) Read more at web.israelinsider.com ...
Calpernia, After giving it more thought, Chin is very confused:
“…and some people born in the Canal Zone when it was under American jurisdiction have been deported from the United States or convicted of being here illegally.”
A baby born in the Canal Zone of non U.S. parents, such as a Panamanian born in the Canal Zone, did not make that baby a U.S. citizen. That baby took the citizenship of the parents.
Mr. Chin is mixing apples and oranges. He lacks the understanding of the specifics.
Believe what you want, but the solid proof of this is shown in the Certificate of Live Birth issued by the Canal Zone. It states born in “Colon.”
The real point of looking at these photos is this.
The issue about Obama's place of birth has been in circulation for many years--I haven't researched the question but I believe it was an issue in all of his earlier political campaigns. He has stonewalled the inquiry. As his political goals came to include the presidency, the inquiry became a little more intense. Articles suggesting that there was live testimony from Sarah (one of his father's other wives) and two half siblings that they were present when he was born in Kenya. The English versions of those stories have been removed from the web and although I have been told that some versions in Africa publications still exist, I am not sufficiently sophisticated to search for them. Also, there is a report out (Wayne Madsen) that documents demonstrating his birth in Kenya have been obtained. To date, none of that evidence has reached the public debate and obviously, the Obama campaign will continue to use its best efforts to control it--access to all of the individuals who have first hand knowledge (including his grandmother--his mother's mother) has been effectively cut off.
In this kind of inquiry, collateral facts tend to focus the investigation. The airport pictures are evidence on the time line; both with respect to the birth location and marriage issues with respect to Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham.
Obama is on the record as having characterized the airport picture of his mother and Obama Sr. as a "wedding picture". The mother is on the record under oath in her divorce proceeding that they were married on Maui. Obama fixes the date at February 2, 1961.
In the picture, they are in a departure area--ticketing and baggage check in, at the Honolulu Airport. Christmas decorations are still up. No way to be precise but you would expect Christmas decorations in public places to be gone by the end of December or early January. Way too early to be leaving to go to Maui for a wedding a month later.
There is no record of the marriage in Maui or anywhere else that has been searched to date.
So, if Obama's description of the wedding picture can be supported, it is at least a reasonable inference that they are leaving for a distant area where the marriage (given the existence of Obama Sr.'s other wives) would be legal--probably Kenya.
And that would then become part of a timeline that placed the mother in Kenya, pregnant, prior to the birth. It would leave you looking for information in a much shorter time period where your last real fact left the mother in Kenya.
>>>although I have been told that some versions in Africa publications still exist
Those were sanitized within a 2 week time also, David.
Andy Martin has a book coming out next week and he says in contains info on Obama’s birth. I wonder if he has the birth certificate?
http://www.contrariancommentary.com/community/Home/tabid/36/mid/363/newsid363/239/Default.aspx
Excerpt:
As long scheduled, I am going to be taking action next week on the topic of Obama’s eligibility to serve as president. In the meantime, in response to Adam Liptak of the New York Times, here is an advance peek at my concerns.
Barack Obama was born to a married, itinerant huckster from Kenya. Obama, unlike McCain, has not been forthcoming about his heritage. Once again, ContrarianCommentary.com has been the leading force behind raising questions about Obama’s citizenship and parentage. ...
Possibly just a temporary outage for them ... but if and when the images come back, who knows?
All very Mandrake the Magician like.
This is the vanity by SwordMaker that found the image returns altered in the Google Search Engine:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2044325/posts
I also found the same thing as of this hour. None of the Birth Certificates KOS, fightthesmear, OpenDna and copies thereof shown in image search results for search terms ‘Barack Obama “Birth Certificate”’.
A few posters from Swordmaker’s thread did say they still come up in other search engines.
So, that is good. That will just prompt more Net Surfers to stop using Google. They gone above and beyond discrediting themselves.
As I reported earlier, the McCain campaign has declined to publicly release the senator's birth certificate. But a senior campaign official showed me a copy of his birth certificate issued by the "family hospital" in the Coco Solo submarine base. (McCain's grandfather commanded the Coco Solo Naval Air Station in 1936; his father was the executive officer of a submarine based in Coco Solo.)BTW, that certificate of live birth background pattern really gets around, doesn't it? .
The birth certificate was signed by Captain W. L. Irvine. I have now checked that name against the Naval Register for 1936, and I find that William Lorne Irvine was director of the medical facility at the submarine base hospital in Coco Solo, Panama Canal Zone, during that time period. You can see the entry here. I think this effectively disposes of any remaining doubts that McCain was born inside the Canal Zone.
The senator's 96-year-old mother, Roberta McCain, recalled the occasion in a Mother's Day video available here. She recalled "the 27 bottles of Scotch" stacked on a table of the nearby Officers' Club, gifts to her husband in celebration of the arrival of "the sweetest, nicest child I have ever known."
Do you think Obama plans to put another one out there?
This makes no sense. Why would they do this?
Notice how some of the fields were filled in later and that the certificate doesn’t bear a raised seal? Also, the birth certificate dating from the event, according to the post of the one above who says it was shown to him, trumps something purporting to be a copy of information found in the birth certificate.
No they didn't. I just read the article.
"Your father’s coming" to see you, my grandmother Toot said. "Next month. Two weeks after your mother gets here. They’ll both stay through New Year’s." She carefully folded the telegram and slipped it into a drawer in the kitchen. Both she and Gramps fell silent, the way I imagine people react when the doctor tells them they have a serious, but curable, illness. For a moment, the air was sucked out of the room, and we stood suspended, alone with our thoughts."
I saw your post. I just added the document you were referring to.
Because once Andy Martin’s book hits the stands this week, everyone will be going to Google to look up the certificate. Google is the most popular engine.
I can’t notice anything. I’ve no background how these documents are created from Panama.
But, we have an expert in the filled that can help you with your observations, Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)!
filled = field
I can’t ping you without your characters scrambling. When you are back on, check post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2040486/posts?page=3018#3018
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