Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
(Excerpt) Read more at web.israelinsider.com ...
It seems no attorney has yet unlocked the key to a perfectly presented case, with proper standing, jurisdiction, form, plaintiff, etc. But they keep swinging, and I don’t think they’re going away.
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Latest re Keyes v Bowen
Superior Court of California
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These respondents demur that the Court has no jurisdiction over the subject of this action (Code Civ. Proc. § 430.10(a)). The demurrer is sustained on this ground as well. Federal law establishes the procedure for election of the President and Vice President and establishes the exclusive means for challenges to the qualifications of the President and Vice President.
That procedure is for objections to be presented before the United States Congress pursuant to 3 U.S.C. section 15. Petitioners’ belief in the importance of their arguments is not sufficient to confer jurisdiction upon this Court.
These respondents also contend that the case is not justiciable—that it is moot in all respects except those that are unripe. The Court finds this argument well taken.
The case is clearly moot. The Secretary of State already placed the candidates’ names on the ballot, the election has already taken place, the Electors were certified elected by the Secretary of State, met and cast their votes, the governor certified those results and transmitted them to the President of the Senate, and President Obama and Vice President Biden have now been inaugurated and are engaged in the duties of their offices.
It is too late for relief against the Secretary of State and the California Electors as to the 2008 General Election. And as to any future election, the claims are not ripe.
There is no actual controversy which admits of definitive and conclusive relief, as distinguished from an advisory opinion upon a hypothetical state of facts. (Selby Realty Co. v. City of San Buenaventura (1973) 10 Cal.3d 110, 117; Pacific Legal Foundation v. California Coastal Comm’n (1982) 33 Cal.3d 158.)
The Request of President Barack Obama et al. for Judicial Notice in Support of Demurrer is GRANTED.
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Perhaps Donofrio’s Quo Warranto approach, which would have to be voluntarily undertaken by Atty General Holder and DC US Atty, are now the proper legal approach, but the chances of them taking up this mantle are probably very slim ... but, you never know.
If lawsuits against BHO are in fact initiated in the future in droves by folks aggrieved by bills he’s signed into law, as has been speculated, that could generate a pressure cooker of trouble that would be very hard to ignore.
God bless America.
Ooops
“undertaken by Atty General Holder and DC US Atty”
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Should be:
Holder OR DC US Atty
Thanks for posting this STARWISE...and for ALL your other posts :)
Thanks.
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Anyone want to venture a guess as to the meaning of “unripe”
in this context?
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“These respondents also contend that the case is not justiciable—that it is moot in all respects except those that are unripe. The Court finds this argument well taken.”
unripe definition
un·ripe
adjective
not ripe or mature; green
not yet fully developed unripe plans
Obsolete premature: said esp. of a death
Not yet fully developed unripe plans...?
Possibly ... or maybe a situation caused by
an ineligible POTUS in the course of signing
bills into laws, which impact the citizenry
directly.
Wasn’t it Vieira who said that dozens and
dozens of lawsuits would occur AFTER folks
were harmed by virtue of bills he signs into
law?
... Found it .. worth the reminder:
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Edwin Vieira, a constitutional lawyer who has practiced for 30 years and holds four degrees from Harvard, said if it were to be discovered Mr. Obama were not eligible for the presidency, it would cause many problems. They would be compounded if his ineligibility were discovered after he had been in office for a period of time.
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Mr. Vieira said such an ethical question of representing a client who refused to produce such a basic document is important, even in a small civil case. The current question is concerning the man who potentially could have his finger next to the nuclear button.
“[The birth certificate], in theory, should be there,” said Mr. Vieira. “What if it isn’t? Who knows, aside from Mr. Obama? Does Russian intelligence know it isn’t there? Does Chinese intelligence know it isn’t there? Does the CIA know that it isn’t there? Who is in a position to blackmail this fellow?”
Mr. Vieira explained all laws have to be submitted to the president. In the event that there is no valid president, then no laws passed by Congress in that administration would be legally null and void. Because of that, this case will probably not go away, even after Mr. Obama takes the oath of office.
“If you don’t produce it, you think it’s going to go away,” he said. “There are all these cases challenging Mr. Obama, and some challenging secretaries of state, and they run into this doctrine called standing.”
Mr. Vieira explained although legal standing is difficult to get around in Federal courts, the document could be produced in any criminal cases stemming from legislation passed in the Obama administration.
“Let’s assume that an Obama administration passes some of these controversial pieces of legislation he has been promising to go for, like the FOCA (Freedom of Choice) Act,” said Mr. Vieira. “I would assume that some of those surely will have some severe civil or criminal penalties attached to them for violation. You are now the criminal defendant under this statute, which was passed by an Obama Congress and signed by President Obama.
Your defense is that is not a statute because Mr. Obama is not the president. You now have a right and I have never heard this challenged, to subpoena in a criminal case, anyone who has relevant evidence relating to your defenses. And you can subpoena them duces tecum, meaning ‘you shall bring with you the documents.’ “
Such a criminal defense would enable the defendant to subpoena any person to testify in court and any person to bring evidence in their possession to the court.
Further, records could be subpoenaed directly, in the case of a birth certificate. Once the record could be subpoenaed, the birth certificate could be examined by forensic experts, who would then be able to testify to the document’s veracity as expert witnesses.
Any movement by the judges to make a special exception to the president in a criminal case would hurt the legitimacy of that presidential administration.
http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=9423
I'm an Australian. I think that's a bit rough. The europeans aren't that much different, regardless of their claims, it's just fashionable in europe to look down their noses at the US - it makes them feel superior.
We have a HUGE problem in this country and it isn't just Obama...
With that I must agree, and here's an example of one of them (IMO)
DEATH AND TRANSFIGURATION. TIME MAGAZINE ARTICLE FROM 1965
Malcolm X had been a pimp, a cocaine addict and a thief. He was an unashamed demagogue. His gospel was hatred: "Your little babies will get polio!" he cried to the "white devils." His creed was violence: "If ballots won't work, bullets will." Yet even before his bullet-ripped body went to its grave, Malcolm X was being sanctified. Negro leaders called him "brilliant," said he had recently "moderated" his views, blamed his assassination on "the white power structure" or, in the case of Martin Luther King, on a "society sick enough to express dissent with murder." Malcolm's death, they agreed, was a setback to the civil rights movement. Alias John Doe. In fact, Malcolm X —in life and in death—was a disaster to the civil rights movement...
Read it all, five pages of the truth. The enemy within was islam all along, Malcolm X was recruited in prison just as is going on right now. Islam uses the blacks and the indigenous everywhere to further its aims. Marxism is simply its 'white' face.
Amen to that.
That’s islam behind the white hatred, behind that fraud Jeremiah Wright who ran Trinity ‘church’ (who studied islam) - that’s islam behind the worship of Malcolm X - and the muslim clerics in the prisons.
Wright used the same words, chickens coming home to roost:
“...Malcolm was also a savage speaker. After the 1962 plane crash in France that killed 121 whites from Georgia, he rose before a Los Angeles audience and said: “I would like to announce a very beautiful thing that has happened. I got a wire from God today. He really answered our prayers over in France. He dropped an airplane out of the sky with over 120 white people on it because the Muslims believe in an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. We will continue to pray and we hope that every day another plane falls out of the sky.”
“The Comeuppance. In demand as a speaker, not just among Negroes but before white civic groups and on college campuses, Malcolm gained in popularity and became a threat to Elijah Muhammad’s leadership of the Black Muslims.
“All Elijah wanted was a chance to give Malcolm his comeuppance—and in 1963 Malcolm offered him the opportunity. After President Kennedy’s assassination, Malcolm publicly called the murder a case of “the chickens coming home to roost.” Cried he: “Being an old farm boy myself, chickens coming home to roost never did make me sad; they’ve always made me glad.” ...
That disgusting piece of work who called himself Malcolm X has been elevated to martyr status. The truth about black muslims seems to have been buried with him. As an Aussie, I’m only just now catching up with the background.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2040486/posts?page=7411#7411
the malcolm x project at columbia university...
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/ccbh/mxp/nationofislam.html
...probably kept obama busy at Columbia, and that’s why the records are sealed.
WHOOPS! Looks like someone didn’t like me posting that link, all I get now is ACCESS DENIED!
I just tried, got Access Denied. Clicked it earlier and saw the Malcolm X fan club crap.
Here's an intersting take:
A cathartic moment, a sudden change of vista and a vision of hope -- the election of Barack Obama as the next US president was all these things, despite some ominous signs of things to come, writes Hamid Dabashi* (Published in Cairo.)
Ultimately, I voted for Obama for all the right reasons, reasons that in the course of the grueling presidential campaign were turned upside down and turned into causes not to vote for him. I voted for Obama because the noble anger of Malcolm X resonates gently in his two books ( Audacity of Hope and Dreams from my Father ), and no matter how hard he now tries to conceal the cadences of Malcolm's voice and speech patterns we can still hear the Muslim revolutionary emerge from under Obama's sweet and gentle demeanour.
I VOTED FOR OBAMA because for two long and formative decades he was graced by the prophetic voice of Jeremiah Wright, the liberation theologian who lent Obama the title of his book -- "The Audacity of Hope" -- and preached to him in the abiding moral voice of a nation in search of its better angels. I voted for Barack Obama for the courage he once had to seek the company of Bill Ayers, the defiant voice of the Civil Rights Movement, whom John McCain and Sarah Palin called a "domestic terrorist." If Bill Ayers once saw something in Obama worthy of his friendship, then there must have once been something good in Obama...
Keep an eye over your shoulder. These are big league folks and I’ve watched them do some incredibly nasty stuff to people who get in the way of the Internationalist Movement. They are reading every post... right comrades???
Of course they are. I am aware of that. But everything we write is there, out in the open; we don’t make this stuff up, we always provide a link or quote a source. And as quickly as they scrub something, another one pops up.
That is the beauty of this forum. Freedom of speech at its finest. Heck, we exposed Dan Rather!
ACKKK! Who the he!! is that sick (deleted bad words)??? I am a gentle vegetarian ahimsa practicing ol’ lady (yes I am actually MRS lj) but reading that vile stinking crap makes me want to find a weapon and beat that (deleted bad words) until he stops breathing and his heart is broken into many pieces. I have to get away from my computer right now for my mental health and blood pressure.
You are a saint that you find this stuff, it takes guts and determination, the world needs to know that truth about the jackal who fraudulently “won” the election and the evil people who support him and indeed, pull his strings.
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