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Obama Conundrum: If a total stranger can do it, then why not Obama?
The Greater Evil ^ | 10/02/08 | Polarik

Posted on 10/02/2008 3:39:29 PM PDT by Polarik

I'm writing this brief post to put into perspective what it all means when Obama cannot (rather refuses to) release his genuine birth certificate to put all rumors to rest.

The time for surprizes has long past. Obama is not going to magically produce it, saying "Gotcha," because that would have been done in response to Berg's suit.

You can take this to the bank, that when Obama is forced show his "vault" long-form birth certificate, the whole world will know that the COLB image was a forgery from Day One, as well as the phony FactCheck photos.

BUT, now here's the conundrum:

How is it that a total stranger to me (named Michele) can send me eight, high quality scans of BOTH SIDES of her COLB, and also ask Hawaii to print off another paper COLB and send it just to me,

when,

Obama cannot, or will not, produce even a second COLB scan OF THE REVERSE SIDE WHERE ALL THE STAMPS ARE PLACED, let alone show the real paper original to a neutral third party, or even in response to a lawsuit?

if the first scan was really made from the FRONT SIDE ONLY of a genuine, original COLB, then there's no reason on earth not to show the original, or not even to show a second scan of it,

EXCEPT for the inescapable conclusion that the one, and only one, COLB image is a forgery.

Fight The Smears changed their web page which displayed their smaller copy of it, by putting in the following lead-in line:

Smears claiming Barack Obama doesn’t have a birth certificate aren’t actually about that piece of paper — they’re about manipulating people into thinking Barack is not an American citizen.

We never said that Obama "doesn’t have a birth certificate." We all have a birth certificate, but we also do not substitute a forged image in place of that piece of paper.

What we are saying is that Obama is absolutely NOT a natural born citizen, and

If Obama really was born in Kenya, then, "O, Yeah," he would not have that piece of paper called a "US birth certificate."


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1 posted on 10/02/2008 3:39:31 PM PDT by Polarik
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To: Polarik
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2 posted on 10/02/2008 3:40:28 PM PDT by ncfool ("Obama been lying. "Get it? Sounds Like "Osama bin Laden"?)
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To: LucyT; pissant; Fred Nerks

*Ping*


3 posted on 10/02/2008 3:40:36 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Polarik

Line 3 (Citizenship) Indonesia
Line 4 (Religion) Islam

4 posted on 10/02/2008 3:44:20 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: mouse1

Resume of: B HUSSEIN OBAMA

1.) COLB
Proven fake by more than one source
2.) Sketchy childhood
We know some details - Lots of gaps - muslim?
3.) College thesis has vanished
Was it anything like Michele’s?
4.) Overseas travel
Pakistan? Why? On what passport?
5.) Law records
What cases did he represent?
6.) Senate records disappeared
What was he trying to hide?
7.) Associations
Rev Wright, Ft Flager, Ayers, Rezko, Davis, Michele etc.
8.) Senate voting record
That speaks for itself
9.) SCOTUS
Who would his choices be?
10.) Proven Liar
11.) Inexperience
12.) Racist, Sexist, Radical, Marxist views

THIS IS THE TRUTH FOLKS!!
B Hussein scares the hell out of me.
Keep the community organizer out of the White House


5 posted on 10/02/2008 3:50:45 PM PDT by mouse1 (McCain Palin)
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To: Polarik

He can’t produce it because his dog ate it.


6 posted on 10/02/2008 3:53:00 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: Polarik

Prepare yourself for full scale riots when this comes to fruition..


7 posted on 10/02/2008 4:02:40 PM PDT by Onerom99
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To: Polarik
I just feel a big prank coming on with this Birth Certificate issue.

I believe Obama has proof that he was born in Hawaii, but has been holding out...letting all the fuss fly about and the negative comments. He wouldn't be so stupid as to actually have no proof of U.S. citizenship. But he wants people to ramble on about it, so he is letting it be questioned, for the moment.

Then, in late October sometime he will produce it showing his birth in Hawaii - and that will up his poll numbers at the last minute. His team plays real dirty. Unfortunately they are also pretty clever it seems. I just think they know exactly when to reveal the Birth Certificate and will then try to make fools of McCain and the Republicans if they dare bring up the question in an ad or something.

8 posted on 10/02/2008 4:04:07 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: Polarik
Count Us Out PUMAs for McCain / Palin

He won’t allow his transcript from his undergraduate days at Columbia University to be released.

He “lost” his thesis on Soviet nuclear policy (see “Where in the World is Obama’s Missing Thesis“ which might provide insight regarding his seeming lack of knowledge about Soviet policy during the Kennedy years).

He won’t answer questions about his days at Harvard Law School.

He “lost” his Illinois Senate records.

He will only release a simple one-page letter from his doctor on his medical condition.

He won’t release his application to the state bar, which, as National Review’s Jim Geraghty notes raises questions about whether he told the truth about parking tickets and drug use, among other issues.

He won’t disclose list of his clients from his law firm days or the nature of the work he did for them as a lawyer (his clients include the indicted political fixer Tony Rezko).

He walks away from uncomfortable questions about Rezko at a news conference.

His cultists try to shut down inquiry into his stewardship of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge by sliming a journalist investigating his days at the helm of that group, which blew through $100 million dollars with no discernible benefit for the schools and students that it was putatively designed to help (what does the constitutional law lecturer say to the chilling of free speech by his acolytes?).

He tries to muddle his long-standing ties with Pastor Wright by producing a version of his attendance record at Trinity Church that is sharply at variance with previous versions he has given (”Obama Re-invents his Trinity Church History“).

The Wall Street Journal joins the battle over Obama’s past in today’s editorial...Obama’s Lost Years.Link.

9 posted on 10/02/2008 4:09:32 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: CitizenM
Do you really think that all these people on this forum withe great intelligence and great expertise would lie to you? This is serious stuff. Yes he may produce an upgraded Hawaiian COLB but it will have been upgraded. I think the web people here have an issue. YOU GO GUYS!
10 posted on 10/02/2008 4:14:29 PM PDT by 70th Division (If we lose the Republic we have lost it all.)
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To: Polarik; Calpernia; Kevmo; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; PhilDragoo; FARS; ...

Thanks, Polarik.

Pinging everyone.

Check out Fred Nerks’s post #9, too.


11 posted on 10/02/2008 4:17:17 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: CitizenM
I just feel a big prank coming on with this Birth Certificate issue.

I'm afraid that's only wishful thinking.

12 posted on 10/02/2008 4:18:07 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: All

BETWEEN THE ILLEGAL DONATIONS AND THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE ISSUE
MAYBE TIME TO FREEP THE FEC

How to Contact the Office of Inspector General:
Call Mail
1-202-694-1015 Federal Election Commission
1-800-424-9530 Office of Inspector General
Fax 999 E Street, NW
1-202-501-8134 Room 940
E-mail Washington, DC 20463
oig@fec.gov

How to Contact the Federal Election Commission:
Call Mail
1-800-424-9530 Federal Election Commission
1-202-694-1100 (Washington, DC) 999 E Street, NW
1-202-219-3336 (Hearing Impaired) Washington, DC 20463


13 posted on 10/02/2008 4:19:39 PM PDT by mouse1 (McCain Palin)
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To: Polarik

Fake but accurate? ... I mean, democrats wouldn’t care if he was born on Mars! Irrational cult of personality isn’t about honesty, truth, or integrity, it’s about gaining power, being empowered by things false. Now, as an American citizen and thus one of the 300,000,000 sovereigns of this Republic, I want this damned lying piece of demonisc bilge-spittling scum to be forced to produce a valid US Citizen birth certificate. By God you can bet if I was running for office against any damned lying democrat I would be required to jump through hoops, not just prove citizenship.


14 posted on 10/02/2008 4:27:25 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Polarik
I hope Hawaiian officials are aware of the crime of misprision of felony. According to Wikipedia:
"Misprision of Felony" is still an offense under United States federal law after being codified in 1909 under 18 U.S.C. § 4:
Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This offense, however, requires active concealment of a known felony rather than merely failing to report it

15 posted on 10/02/2008 4:42:05 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Polarik

obumpa


16 posted on 10/02/2008 5:26:38 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: Diogenesis

“Line 3 (Citizenship) Indonesia
Line 4 (Religion) Islam”

You left out this one:

Line 2 (Place and Date of Birth) Honolulu 4-8-61.

So clearly he was born in the US, and not Kenya.


17 posted on 10/02/2008 7:53:52 PM PDT by Peerless
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To: MHGinTN
Fake but accurate? ... I mean, democrats wouldn’t care if he was born on Mars! Irrational cult of personality isn’t about honesty, truth, or integrity, it’s about gaining power, being empowered by things false. Now, as an American citizen and thus one of the 300,000,000 sovereigns of this Republic, I want this damned lying piece of demonisc bilge-spittling scum to be forced to produce a valid US Citizen birth certificate. By God you can bet if I was running for office against any damned lying democrat I would be required to jump through hoops, not just prove citizenship.

Yeah..now that's what I'm talkin' about!!

18 posted on 10/02/2008 8:08:50 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: LucyT
Thanks LucyT.
I worked with a PUMA at the RNC yesterday, they are making phone calls for us.
They hate Obama and people they call are floored when they say.
I am a Democrat working for the McCain campaign.
I love it.
19 posted on 10/02/2008 10:28:35 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: LucyT

Thanks for the links.


20 posted on 10/03/2008 12:04:34 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: CitizenM

I thought at first he probably was born in Hawaii too, but I really started doubting this when the forgery of his COLB was put up on the Internet. My doubts were reinforced when he didn’t provide a copy after the Berg lawsuit was filed, and instead both he and the DNC filed motions to delay discovery.

The last straw was when I found out McCaskill, Leahy, Obama, and others submiited Senate Resolution 511 in April 2008 that recognized John McCain as a “natural born” citizen. The wording in this resolution comments that the “Constitution of the U.S. does not define the term “natural born” and “whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President”

Now why did these senators feel there was a need to address McCain’s “natural born” status when this issue was settled way back in 2000 when he first ran in a primary for president. In 2004 it was considered a non issue as well. At this point in time I think they were trying to pull a fast one on us. I also read that some of the wording they wanted in the resolution was not allowed to be put in it., but I don’t remember the excact wording of that.

I did go look up this resolution and it is a real one that was passed by the senate in late April 2008.

Anyway, I no longer believe that Obama is a natural born citizen.


21 posted on 10/18/2008 9:36:36 PM PDT by Flamenco Lady (Proud to be a pitbull that wears lipstick too!)
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To: Polarik

You have been so key to exposing this fraud,
Thanks Polarik

News Update:

RUSH IS DISCUSSING THE Mysterious BIRTH CERTIFICATE issue right now.

Kenya, Berg, granny, dual-citizenship, etc. all mentioned.

Cats out of the bag.........


22 posted on 10/23/2008 9:38:19 AM PDT by Gemsbok (Fight voter FRAUD (Acorn)(Obama) and be a poll worker or observer: Beat them at their own game!)
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