Posted on 12/04/2009 9:55:41 PM PST by Gordon Greene
Arguing with Idiots… Part Deaux (A full-frontal assault on the Temple of Darwin) (Link to PDF).
(I know I’ve done rants like this before, but you guys are worth it!)
Dear worshippers of Darwin and lovers of self,
My personal (condensed) declaration of faith:
I believe in the God of the Bible. I believe in the Bible. I believe what it says. I believe, unashamedly that God is the Creator of the Universe and that He created it just as described in the Genesis account. I believe the only way to receive salvation is to believe and receive Jesus Christ as your savior. I believe that if you do not accept Jesus as your savior then you will spend eternity in the lake of fire, created for Satan and his followers… separated forever from God.
My personal (condensed) declaration of allegiance to American values:
I believe that the founding Fathers had faith in and worshipped the God of the Bible. I believe the Founders trusted God and the laws of God to be a guide and to provide the framework for what would become the United States of America. I believe that the Founders incorporated those values into our founding documents including the Constitution and Declaration of Independence. I believe that very same Godly, Biblical foundation is what has sustained us as a nation for over 200 years. I believe the same is why this nation has been blessed beyond any other nation in history. I believe forsaking those principles is what is plunging this country headlong into socialism. I believe if we, as a people do not turn back to God and to His truth, this great nation has seen its best days.
Now, my message to the evolutionists and atheists on freerepublic…
You continually disgrace and shame yourselves and this site by purposely attempting to offend those who believe in God and Creation and frankly, I'm amazed it has gone on this long. The honest debate over differences of opinion are welcome on this site (correct me if I’m wrong) but even more-so the promotion of the God-centered foundation of our country and government. Yet you make it a playground for your near-pornographic display of anti-Christian rhetoric. Do I and others respond in an other-than kind way from time to time? Absolutely! That's what people do when you offer a constant barrage of insults and deliver responses dripping with hollow, moral superiority. Like many, I tried at first to reason with you. I found that there is no reasoning with the true-believers in the Temple of Darwin (with rare exception, I must note). So I barb… it’s my way of dealing with it.
From time to time one of you may pretend to seek an honest argument or answer only to turn it into a battle of context, performing hopeless and pointless contortions of the English language. Your mental gymnastics are generally childlike and wholly unnecessary. All you would have to do is to say you don’t have the mental capacity to understand the argument and that would be that… but that is not your goal.
You have this sick wish to see those who literally interpret the Bible and faithful Christians into converts of the radical wing of the Temple of Darwin or, at the very least to make an example of their comments (unsuccessfully, as a general rule). Then you can take their replies to your Darwin’s Temple websites and display them in the midst of those ungodly freak shows.
Earlier, I was questioned as to whether it was fair of me to say that you lead children into hell. My question is, “Is it fair of you to do so?” In my estimation, that’s exactly what you’re doing when you shove your unfounded faith in dry bones down the throats of schoolchildren. You claim we have nothing on which to base our faith in God and Creation, yet I suggest to you there is no evidence of evolution in the way that you teach and believe it… no proof of inter-species evolution taking place and no evidence that life was formed in a way that disputes the Biblical account. There is much more circumstantial evidence in the Creation account in Genesis than what you place your faith in, yet that is not my primary argument this evening.
Here’s the beef: most of you troll posts with a religious bent for the express purpose of inserting chaos into the equation. In that, you are no better than the community organizers at ACORN. You attempt to confuse, divide, destroy and deride those who believe your religion to be false. Yet, your religion is more than false; it rises to the level of cult. Its followers are brainwashed by manufactured statistics as if Al Gore himself were beating on the pulpit, loudly testifying to the dangers of non-belief. And you not only believe the lies, you are some of its chief priests!
Like the climate mongers and the climatologists at CRU, your actions do have consequences. However, the disastrous effects of your insidious message are far more devastating than the physical and monetary cost of the climate hoax. Your target is the soul of man. Since the dawning of the Age of Darwinism, millions of men, women and children have fallen victim, maybe even you. And for those who claim to be Christian and evolutionists, I offer this from one of my recent responses…
“If you draw evolution out to its ultimate end it either:
A. Denies the existence of God.
B. Denies His relevance.
C. Boils the Word of God down to a collection of allegory.
Unlike a lot of folks that share my beliefs in God and Creation, I don’t believe that faith in evolution automatically excludes you from Christianity. People are in different stages of their walk and some find the truth more slowly than others but that doesn’t mean they aren’t saved. But if you follow the (il)logic of evolution very far, it discounts faith in the God of the Bible.”
That is to say most would have to conclude from studying Evolution that God does not exist. Being a priest and a disseminator of the gospel of Evolution is no different than being in a sinking ship and destroying the only life preserver because you believe if you can’t have it, no one else should.
If you were honest with yourselves you would admit there is no honest scientific evidence proving evolution. Most of you have heard the truth of the Bible and chosen to reject it. I personally believe (again… my personal belief) that you and those who promote the baseless theory of evolution will be judged by God for leading others to discount God as well.
Matthew 18:6 (New International Version)
6But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
2 Timothy 3:16 (New International Version)
16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
Romans 1:22 (New International Version)
22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
Exodus 20:11 (New International Version)
11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
John 1:3 (New International Version)
3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
2 Chronicles 7:14 (New International Version)
7If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
If I left anyone off that I needed to encourage or offend, please add them. If I sent this to anyone who didn’t care to see it...
There’s always tomorrow.
GG
Preach it, brother!
Thanks for the ping!
You’re fast... that’s probably why they call you, “smokingfrog”!
God bless.
orange potato
Amen and Amen. Please ping me on all your posts.
green tangerine
Thomas Jefferson to John Adams ....
"It is too late in the day for men of sincerity to pretend they believe in the Platonic mysticisms that three are one, and one is three; and yet that the one is not three, and the three are not one. But this constitutes the craft, the power and the profit of the priests." - to John Adams, 1803
No, that’s fine... any other rare exceptions you’d like to post, I’m up for it. I’ll see your Jefferson and raise you a Washington any day.(of course, a reply may have to wait until tomorrow).
By the way... care to comment on the entire piece or are you just here to cherry pick (speaking of Washington) as usual?
Hello. Nice post.
Yes, evolution - the fraud that has taken many millions to death and hell.,,,is much more serious than Climategate - but related to it.
May I also recommend some fantastic “short” sermons - by Dr. Erwin Lutzer - that are extremely enlightening on this subject and downloadable as podcasts or available simply for audio listening on the net.
These are ALL quite good - see the listing at
at http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/Running_To_Win/archives.asp
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."
Thomas Paine:
"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistant that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and, for my part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel."
If we don't make it up...
Who will?
ALL THE NEWS THAT'S FIT TO BE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT
You’ve got ‘em cornered now.
You lose on your Washington:
Historian Barry Schwartz writes: "George Washington's practice of Christianity was limited and superficial because he was not himself a Christian... He repeatedly declined the church's sacraments. Never did he take communion, and when his wife, Martha, did, he waited for her outside the sanctuary... Even on his deathbed, Washington asked for no ritual, uttered no prayer to Christ, and expressed no wish to be attended by His representative." [New York Press, 1987, pp. 174-175]
Paul F. Boller states in is anthology on Washington: "There is no mention of Jesus Christ anywhere in his extensive correspondence." [Dallas: Southern Methodist University Press, 1963, pp. 14-15]
I agree too, sir!
JJS, JSDude1
Thomas Jefferson will have to answer to God for his refusal to believe the truth; but that makes it no less true!
Dr. Lutzer’s Running to Win series has focused on the Truth of God’s creation vs the Darwinian delusion since mid November.
His titles include:
The Tale of Two Graves - 4 Parts - begun 11/17/09
“Charles Darwin made history with ‘On the Origin of Species’. This book helped launch evolution on its way...
The battle lines are drawn. Christians believe in a Creator God. Evolutionists believe in random chance. The bottom line: if there’s no God, there’s no one to judge our behavior. And a lot of people would like that just fine. Today: we begin a series on “The Darwin Delusion.” “
God’s Great Universe - 4 Parts - begun 11/23/2009
“Evolutionists have a tough sell. It’s one thing to say life developed by chance. It’s another to say how it all started...
Untold quadrillions of stars, planets and galaxies all argue that a Designer put them there. Pure chance can’t create anything...something had to set it all in motion. Today, a look at the virtual infinity that is the universe we live in...fit to honor the One who made it all.”
God’s First Couple - 3 Parts - begun 11/27/2009
“For Darwin’s followers, there was no Eden. Primitive man rose up by pure chance from the primieval slime, and, here we are.
The Bible gives an account with no chances. God hand-made the first human man and woman, and gave them a place to live with a mandate to serve Him as custodians of the earth. While the world celebrates Darwin’s theories, believers know that it was God, not chance, that brought male and female together.”
The Fingerprints of God - 4 Parts - begun 12/2/2009
“The scientific method involves experimentation and the validation of results. When it comes to creation, this won’t work.... There’s no way to re-enact the moment of creation. Science must give way to faith, and that troubles many. The issue of evolution has carved a great divide between those who believe the Bible and those who scorn it. Today: questions and answers on a theory that really can’t hold water.”
Wow! What a post!
The lies, the hypocrisy, the seething burning hate and the overall general nuttiness.
If you are really an Atheist pretending to be a Christian in order to scare people away from religion, you’re doing a great job.
(ping to a follow up post to #11 - at #18)
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