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Islam is the New Communism
American Thinker ^ | 8/22/10 | Sally Humhorth

Posted on 08/22/2010 4:15:07 PM PDT by American Dream 246

Paul Hsieh wrote an excellent article about America's weakness in regards to the war against terrorists. However, he claimed that the mosque is distracting us from the real issue of Iran's nuclear weapons program. I respectfully disagree. The real issue is that we are fighting a war with Islam. The mosque, rather than distracting America, has brought her full attention to it.

The mosque has refocused us on the fact that we were brutally attacked on 9/11, and Americans are starting to talk about it again. Videos about 9/11 are circulating the internet and discourse is taking place about who was responsible. People are learning about Islam and decisions are being made about who is to blame.

This is has been a difficult road, because Americans are benevolent and naïve concerning Islam. They are used to freedom of religion and they find it hard to condemn one. And that is precisely the problem, Americans see Islam as only a religion. It is not just a religion, it is also a sophisticated, detailed political ideology with the expressed goal of taking over the entire world by any means at its disposal, even if it includes lying and killing. Americans need to think of it as a social/political ideology, but they are so used to separating religion from politics (which was a first at the time of our country's founding) that they keep giving Islam the benefit of the doubt.

Frank Langan, site superintendent from Queens working at ground zero, says he is on the fence on the matter. When construction workers started to protest working on the mosque, he made a statement that is typical of people who are undecided about this issue, "It's a tough debate. I sympathize with workers' position, but at the same time, you can't single out all Muslims because of a small number of terrorists." That would be like saying, you can't single out all Communists because of a small number of Communists. They are all Communists if they subscribe to the Communist ideology, and just like Communism has an ideology, so does Islam. Any Muslim who is truly innocent, must renounce Islam like other courageous Muslims such as Ayaan Hirsi Ali or Wafa Sultan. Not to do so, means that he still considers us as the enemy and supports the downfall of the United States.

Separation of church and state is something we take for granted. Islam does not separate the two. And Islam is the new Communism.

In order to win any war, one must know who the enemy is and have the courage to do what is necessary. As Paul Hsieh said in his article it is important to commit to victory and win the war. But that won't happen until our enemy is clearly defined in the American mind.


TOPICS: Education; Government; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: communism; crime; glennbeck; groundzeromosque; islam; islamnotareligion; marklevin; military; muslims; nymosque; nymuslims; obama; palin; rushlimbaugh; taliban; terrorism; usarmy; waronterror

1 posted on 08/22/2010 4:15:10 PM PDT by American Dream 246
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To: American Dream 246

ping


2 posted on 08/22/2010 4:16:26 PM PDT by unkus
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To: American Dream 246

Excellent!


3 posted on 08/22/2010 4:18:44 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: American Dream 246

Bang! The author nails this one. THANK you for posting this one. This is a societal/political movement from the 8th century that is against modernity and western ideas ... period.

Ask the Sudanese about freedom of religion .....


4 posted on 08/22/2010 4:28:08 PM PDT by GipperCT
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To: American Dream 246

If we are to win this war we must eliminate the sentiment of corporate globalism ruling class in the US. Prior to 9/11 US corporations, academia and leftwing internationalism was in full swing trying to dissuade Americans from old fashion patriotism and nationalism. This was needed for corporate America to globalize the final piece of global trade and that was immigration. Americans already were participating in the movement of goods, materials and services, but we cannot access the importation of cheap labor to replace American labor. 9/11 struck and many corporate globalist schemes were unraveled. The Dubai port deal was killed by talk radio, the Super Highway was under scrutiny, demands to enforce the border against illegal immigration, and Americans were pumped up on patriotism/nationalism, sentiments that can block further free trade, global government and total free movement of people for labor.
The ruling class immediately reacted behind the scenes. Look what happened after 9/11, the media and government pulled the video images of the burning tower and people jumping from th burning inferno. GWB admin was concern about uncontrollable hatred for Muslims, actually the ruling class was concern about rising nationalism that will threaten their unpopular globalist projects. As long as globalists who are more concern about the riches of their global projects and implementation of their globalist open society, we are never safe from Islamic threat as long as there are Americans who will undermind our efforts for defense and prudence from within. Need proof, Mayor Bloomberg whose own private company Bloomberg is trying to open a large office in Dubai, supported the mosque. Imagine, Bloomberg a Jew would be the first person killed in an Islamic takeover chooses money over his own life. The dangerous part is guys like Bloomberg are not alone holding power and authority in this country.


5 posted on 08/22/2010 4:42:39 PM PDT by Fee
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To: American Dream 246

Very good article. Does the west have the fortitude to ever declare war on a religous-political movement? They
are using religion like a Trojan Horse against us.


6 posted on 08/22/2010 4:44:15 PM PDT by Dem Guard
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To: American Dream 246

It is inevitable that Islam is completely destroyed by the West, probably by America.

Islam is a totalitarian, murdering cult - by their own admittance. You join and obey, or they kill you - there is no other way for them, by their own admittance.

And they’re addicted to the cowardly thrill of committing terrorist atrocities.

SO - do the math. Sooner or later they’re going to get dissatisfied with the pace of things in converting America, and commit a really, really big atrocity here.

At that point, they will be introduced to the awakened American dragon, like the Japanese were in WWII.

You think Americans are pissed about this “victory mosque”?

Just watch what happens if these animals ever set off a nuke here.

And oh, yeah, they really have the self-restraint not to at least try, right?


7 posted on 08/22/2010 4:47:12 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: American Dream 246

Ah.... somebody gets it.


8 posted on 08/22/2010 4:51:38 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: American Dream 246

Well said......the sooner we get the courage to say Islam is an ideology and not a religion the better.


9 posted on 08/22/2010 4:52:45 PM PDT by Enten (How's that hopey changey thing working out for you?)
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To: American Dream 246

Finally, someone with an audience is saying what I’ve been saying since 9-11.


10 posted on 08/22/2010 4:53:46 PM PDT by Binghamton_native
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To: American Dream 246

“..have the courage to do what’s necessary.” Exactly. But a lot of Americans are still blind to what we are facing. Just yesterday a poster right here at FR took great moral offense at my strong cry for a real war against islam. She wailed about collateral damage of innocents should we wage real war against our enemy.

Until we fight as hard as they do, we cannot win.
Most Americans are unwilling to fight with all we have.
Obviously, islam has taken advantage of our collective weakness. They laugh at us, as they build a trophy building where they killed thousands of Americans.

We need a strong leader as president in 2013. Someone able to make the tough calls and stick to his or her guns, without apology. A true patroit who will lead the fight against these evil fanatics. It will take someone of a lot higher character than we’ve seen for a very long time. Even GW Bush didn’t have it. He left our borders wide open for the benefit of those who want cheap labor, rather than protect us from terrorists coming over the open border. Not good enough George!

We need someone who gets the dire circumstances we are in with open borders. Someone who isn’t afraid to take out Iran’s nuclear sites, who is going to be brave enough to say they’ll do that when asked during an election debate? I wouldn’t vote for anyone less than a warrior for America. More of these wimps afraid to offend, and we’ll all be under sharia law in 50 years.

The koran demands of the islamic that they kill infidels. They are commanded to do so with glee and with no remorse. There is no compromising with that kind of sick group of people. They should only be destroyed before they destroy everyone else.


11 posted on 08/22/2010 4:58:35 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ( I am woman, hear me roar. NOVEMBER! FREEDOM!)
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To: American Dream 246

Thank you for posting this. Thank God someone has the guts to say it. We ARE at war with Islam. They are certainly at war with us. I am amazed and appalled that the same people who are unreasonably hostile to Christianity are so unreasonably supportive of Islam. If muslims want to live under sharia they should live in Islamic countries. If they want to live in America they should live like Americans.


12 posted on 08/22/2010 5:07:29 PM PDT by athelass (Proud Mom of a Sailor & 2 Marines! Against the Hamasque. Investigate me Nancy.)
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To: Dem Guard
They are using religion like a Trojan Horse against us.

BINGO! That's what we have to fight. Try to explain everytime we can that it is NOT a religion but you are so right. They use it to invade the world and we buy it. These guys are very bright! We NEVER saw them coming in Europe (well I did..). Hope we will be able to stop them here.
13 posted on 08/22/2010 5:07:36 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: All
"For evil to flourish, all that is needed is for good people to do nothing." - Edmund Burke


A Christian Nation cannot put up a Christmas scene of the baby Jesus in a public place, but the Muslims can stop normal traffic in NEW YORK!










This is in New York City on Madison Avenue, not in France or the Middle East or Yemen or Kenya.

http://www.resistnet.com/group/thecornerstoneofthenation/forum/topics/this-is-nyc-on-madison

14 posted on 08/22/2010 5:10:19 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: American Dream 246

I’m afraid fighting a foe hiding behind a religion is our political Achilles’ heel.


15 posted on 08/22/2010 5:13:19 PM PDT by Dem Guard (Islam is using religion like a Trojan Horse against us.)
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To: All
I just received this email this afternooon - they don't even hide it. How stupid can we be...:

Subject: Prison Ministry - The Muslim Question

I have never seen this presented so clearly. This is excellent.

This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known leader in prison ministry.

The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States , especially in the minority races!!!

"Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance.

During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs.

I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video.

After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers...

When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked:

'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?'

There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, the replied, 'Non-believers!'

I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in h eaven Is that correct?'

The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.'

He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'

I then stated, 'Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven!'

The Imam was speechless!

I continued, 'I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question:

Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?'

You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam , and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.

In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the President!

I think everyone in the US should be required to read the above email - also read about Sharia law and be afraid - be very afraid.
16 posted on 08/22/2010 5:16:09 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: American Dream 246

We’ve been at war for 1400 years, some people in the free world have forgotten. Muslims have not.


17 posted on 08/22/2010 5:20:53 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: American Dream 246

Man where’s a couple of suicide bombers when you need one.


18 posted on 08/22/2010 5:22:57 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: American Dream 246
Islam is nothing like communism (or National Socialism, or fascism, for that matter).

Communism, Fascism, and German National Socialism are all movements of late modernity, each in its own way trying to resolve some conflicts which are built into the post-1789 social order in the West. Each of them would be impossible without Kant or Hegel.

Islam is a premodern phenomenon, little changed since the eighth century. It has no modern features, no use for Kant, or Hegel, and it will not fracture and disappear the way those 19th-century romantic ideologies did.

19 posted on 08/22/2010 5:25:20 PM PDT by Jim Noble (If the answer is "Republican", it must be a stupid question.)
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To: Jim Noble

So why do we love them so much??? Why barbaric people like them get so much respect? Because they frighten us I guess and that would be the proof that the people have totally lost their guts. That’s why we bow to them - they scare us so we keep on giving them a pass and no one real man left to fight the fight anymore. Christians don’t frighten anyone so we can be crushed..what a sad state of affair...


20 posted on 08/22/2010 5:38:54 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: American Dream 246

“Islam is the New Communism”

Therefore, our communist nation will soon be an Islamic communist nation.

We haven’t gotten rid of communism, so if the Muslims were smart they would just do what they are doing in Europe - have babies and let the west kill themselves through planned parenthood.


21 posted on 08/22/2010 5:51:34 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: American Dream 246
This is a great post, thank you.

I went to American Thinker and read Islam is the new Communism. I think the article was amazing, it laid out a very simple explanation as to why most people here in the USA have such a difficult time condemning islam (which by the way has frustrated me for quite some time).

The article is actually a response to another American Thinker article by Paul Hsieh. I read that article and did was not impressed by his opinions however I did find something of value, Mr Hsieh placed a hyperlink to a presentation given to a Ayn Rand Institute conference back in October 2006.

The author and presenter of the information is Dr. John David Lewis. His material is titled “No Substitute for Victory’: The Defeat of Islamic Totalitarianism” and it is brilliant. I searched for the information on FR and it was posted some time ago however I wanted to reintroduce it with a hyperlink to your post.

http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2006-winter/no-substitute-for-victory.asp

Again thanks for the great post!

22 posted on 08/22/2010 5:56:50 PM PDT by joesjane ((The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling))
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To: TheConservativeParty
There was a time when a post like this would make me go, "Whoa!" but not any more. My dislike of the 'collective'- be it communists, home-grown liberals, or this group of Allah worshippers hasn't changed at all.

Nothing good will ever come from a collective denying rights that individuals should enjoy. Nothing good will come from a collective doing things an individual would typically avoid. The power to do these things comes from their collective strength, like strength in numbers. Apart from their 'possee' they might seem likeable, but look out when they hook-up.

To me, it seems like a Hive mentality where you see a single bee buzzing around and it's no problem; get near it's nest and that same bee will attack you along with about a hundred others.

Using the 1st ammendment to legitimize a Mosque (hive) in proximity to Ground Zero is not what our founders had in mind. In fact, were they here today they'd probably wonder why a hundred Mosques were already in New York City, and ask, "Are you nuts?" Given that their charter demands of them to convert or kill non-believers, I'd have to say they're right. We are nuts.

The solution would be for Americans to 'hive-up' but that may not be easy as we put individual rights and liberty on a level other societies don't. But it could happen eventually and the results wouldn't bode well for those attacking us. These people don't know the hell America could unleash on them when it does. Oh well, ain't my job to warn them.

23 posted on 08/22/2010 6:34:08 PM PDT by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: American Dream 246

No, Islam is worse! With Communists, you had some notion that you were dealing with rational human beings. There is NOTHING rational about Islam, in fact the whole cult eschews reason.


24 posted on 08/22/2010 6:35:25 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Talisker

“It is inevitable that Islam is completely destroyed by the West, probably by America.
At that point, they will be introduced to the awakened American dragon, like the Japanese were in WWII.”

Although I agree with [nearly] everything you wrote, I don’t yet know if Western victory is “inevitable”.

Indeed — viewing the decade-long response of The West to Islam’s growing putsch against us — and in light of one failure of The West to defend its culture after another — I think the most appropriate question to ask _today_ is, “who’s winning?”

At this point in time, of one thing I’m certain — it ISN’T The West.

Yes, that may change. If The West is to prevail, it MUST change.

But I believe what decides the outcome of this struggle will depend on just _when_ The West realizes what it’s up against, what must be done to win, and finally takes the brutal actions necessary to achieve that victory.

Somewhere in the future, unknown to us today, there exists “the tipping point” in the Great Struggle in which we are now engaged.

If we halt and reverse Islam’s advances BEFORE the tipping point is reached, we will win.

However, if we wait too long, Islam will gain _just enough_ power and advantage so that its victory over The West will be assured and nothing that is done afterwards will change the outcome.

If The West musters the courage to engage Islam in existential combat before the tipping point is reached, we stand a chance to vanquish Islam, to destroy it once and for all time.

If we wait until that tipping point has been passed to come to our senses, it will already be too late.

Will The West realize this in time?

“If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
- Winston Churchill


25 posted on 08/22/2010 9:40:39 PM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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Why are these people not ticketed for unlawful stopping of traffic?


26 posted on 08/23/2010 1:03:35 AM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: Grumplestiltskin
If The West musters the courage to engage Islam in existential combat before the tipping point is reached, we stand a chance to vanquish Islam, to destroy it once and for all time.

I am wondering if the tipping point wasn't already reached and passed - while we slept.

Islam has infiltrated our government at the highest places, it has taken on the status of the officially privileged religion, and the dictate has already gone out to the press to speak of Islam only in hushed, respectful tones. All strictures on outspoken radicals have been lifted by Obama's government, and now we have people like Tariq Ramadan making his triumphal entry to the country. Aside from 9/11, Muslims have committed or attempted to commit bloody murder here numerous times on behalf of Islam, yet it is never identified as a threat to us; what more does it take?

And how, with such a thoroughly infiltrated government and power structure, do we go about fighting it? At least the Spanish armies and kings fought back against Islam, but who will lead us now?

27 posted on 08/23/2010 4:08:41 AM PDT by livius
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To: Jim Noble

“Islam is a premodern phenomenon,”

Islam is as old as the Devil.

He continues to use different tricks to destroy or lead man astray from the truth. This is just another in a long line of tricks. Islam has been snaking through the rest of the world for many years however, it has only begun to touch us.


28 posted on 08/23/2010 12:05:45 PM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: American Dream 246

bttt


29 posted on 08/23/2010 6:11:44 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: Islaminaction

thought this may interest you


30 posted on 08/23/2010 6:13:05 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: Nightshift

gnip


31 posted on 08/23/2010 6:15:15 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: tutstar

The last sentence says it all.

“In order to win any war, one must know who the enemy is and have the courage to do what is necessary. As Paul Hsieh said in his article it is important to commit to victory and win the war. But that won’t happen until our enemy is clearly defined in the American mind.”

Thanks for the ping.


32 posted on 08/23/2010 6:51:48 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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